2015/16 Pre-Season Thread

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Laird

Would have attended fewer than 10 centre bounces all season I reckon

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

It's a good question

The reason we don't have players do what Hodge, Burgoyne, Mitchell do is because we don't have players with the varied skills to do so.

Win a hard contested ball in the guts
Be creative with it when they do
Read the game across half back
Distribute with accuracy by foot

Who do we have who ticks all those boxes?

Apart from Doedee I mean

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Didn't know where to put this .....didn't want to resurrect the Hampton trade thread ....so here goes

This is for lunacy

This is a compilation of 3 games i think ....one in 2012, 2013, and 2015? ......forget as compiling is so tedious

Things to note IMO
1. Remember that in the first 3 seasons GWS was getting walloped .....IIRC Nth Melb won by 120 points
2. the 2012 games he played as a forward and IMO where he looked most natural
3. in 2013 they moved him to HB .....but he ended up in a BP .....looks like they were trying for him to emulate Chris Yarran, in fact he moves very similar ?

Back Pocket certainly saw the worse of Hampton .......his best was centre/forward where he had more space to run & carry
4. I've left in commentary where Hampton is praised by commentators

5. I must have watched 5 games of GWS / Hampton .....IMO Hampton is not a strong mark of the ball ......he's quick with a wicked sidestep who loves to attack, run & carry .......his disposal is fine, his handball and decision making is fine

Hampton is similar to Yarran, do you play him back, centre or forward .......subject to his tank, he'd make a fine wingman, it's just the poor overhead aspect i don't like

Enjoy ....

 

[WaynesWorld19]

.....in the Smith debate we have to factor in that the midfield is the singularly most important zone on the ground .......you put your best players in the midfield to:

a) win the ball
b) spread quickly, run and carry with damaging disposal to the forwards
c) strong footy IQ to deal with zones and make good decisions
d) two way running

you need approx 10 rotating thru ....i'll let people compile their lists

 

[Footypie32]

Just out of interest, Edwards coaching Glenelg U18's next year. Seems like a big step down from assistant at Port. Bad wraps? Other interests?

AFL teams seem to be favouring coaches that have coached their own team outright. Gives you a broader understanding of the role. Seems like a good career move to me.

 

[1970crow]

.....in the Smith debate we have to factor in that the midfield is the singularly most important zone on the ground .......you put your best players in the midfield to:

a) win the ball
b) spread quickly, run and carry with damaging disposal to the forwards
c) strong footy IQ to deal with zones and make good decisions
d) two way running

you need approx 10 rotating thru ....i'll let people compile their lists

well, 1/4 ain't too bad.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

It's a good question

The reason we don't have players do what Hodge, Burgoyne, Mitchell do is because we don't have players with the varied skills to do so.

Win a hard contested ball in the guts
Be creative with it when they do
Read the game across half back
Distribute with accuracy by foot

Who do we have who ticks all those boxes?

Apart from Doedee I mean

It's because we haven't built the depth yet , we have more chance to achieve that sort of flexibility since our list changes and should do so

We need 12 guys we can rotate through half back , half forward and midfield then will be putting together a team to contend

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Didn't know where to put this .....didn't want to resurrect the Hampton trade thread ....so here goes

This is for lunacy

This is a compilation of 3 games i think ....one in 2012, 2013, and 2015? ......forget as compiling is so tedious

Things to note IMO
1. Remember that in the first 3 seasons GWS was getting walloped .....IIRC Nth Melb won by 120 points
2. the 2012 games he played as a forward and IMO where he looked most natural
3. in 2013 they moved him to HB .....but he ended up in a BP .....looks like they were trying for him to emulate Chris Yarran, in fact he moves very similar ?

Back Pocket certainly saw the worse of Hampton .......his best was centre/forward where he had more space to run & carry
4. I've left in commentary where Hampton is praised by commentators

5. I must have watched 5 games of GWS / Hampton .....IMO Hampton is not a strong mark of the ball ......he's quick with a wicked sidestep who loves to attack, run & carry .......his disposal is fine, his handball and decision making is fine

Hampton is similar to Yarran, do you play him back, centre or forward .......subject to his tank, he'd make a fine wingman, it's just the poor overhead aspect i don't like

Enjoy ....

I've watched Hampton over the years and am glad we targeted him.

Those highlights show two things he needs to be working on over the summer:
- losing the dinky kick (although looked like GWS never had a viable target for him to kick to so will wait and see)
- get some more intensity into his attack on the ball. When he went hard at it he was able to shake people off. When he dawdled he got caught or didn't have any real effect on the contest. He needs to spend the summer with Riley knight. That kid is like a bull at a gate - 110% at every ground ball

 

[Elite Crow]

I've watched Hampton over the years and am glad we targeted him.

Those highlights show two things he needs to be working on over the summer:
- losing the dinky kick (although looked like GWS never had a viable target for him to kick to so will wait and see)
- get some more intensity into his attack on the ball. When he went hard at it he was able to shake people off. When he dawdled he got caught or didn't have any real effect on the contest. He needs to spend the summer with Riley knight. That kid is like a bull at a gate - 110% at every ground ball

He would have been pretty young in that game

 

[baby back Bibs]

Just out of interest, Edwards coaching Glenelg U18's next year. Seems like a big step down from assistant at Port. Bad wraps? Other interests?

Have heard he is mending fences at the AFC since his departure from Port. Good for our Jackson chances.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Sorry folks just realised that only one game was uploaded for Hampton .....oops

 

[Stiffy_18]

People need to start thinking though, why would you change up Smith's position after he became an AA half back just because they had the plan to groom him into a midfielder after 3 years in the system.

Sure his desire is to play more midfield minutes, yet as a coach and his team mates, I'd be like, "mate, this half back role is working for us and it's one of the main reasons as to why we've been a more improving side over the last 2 years why change structure now"?

Brodie is still how old? I'm sure in 2-3 years time when he is at his peak at 25-26 he'll be dominating the midfield for us.
But for now, leave the structure (apart from the new guys) to as it is as we know it works

Because next natural progression for Brodie Smith is to move into the midfield. Simon Goodwin was a gun HBF then he became a gun midfielder. So many gun midfielders were AA HBF before they started getting gigs as AA midfielders. Its a natural progression for us and Smithers himself. Especially now that we are considered a little bit lighter on in the midfield than we have been in years. Games of footy are won and lost in the midfield. Roles of HBFs are much easier to fill than those in the midfield.

 

[hippyhippy]

Didn't know where to put this .....didn't want to resurrect the Hampton trade thread ....so here goes

This is for lunacy

This is a compilation of 3 games i think ....one in 2012, 2013, and 2015? ......forget as compiling is so tedious

Things to note IMO
1. Remember that in the first 3 seasons GWS was getting walloped .....IIRC Nth Melb won by 120 points
2. the 2012 games he played as a forward and IMO where he looked most natural
3. in 2013 they moved him to HB .....but he ended up in a BP .....looks like they were trying for him to emulate Chris Yarran, in fact he moves very similar ?

Back Pocket certainly saw the worse of Hampton .......his best was centre/forward where he had more space to run & carry
4. I've left in commentary where Hampton is praised by commentators

5. I must have watched 5 games of GWS / Hampton .....IMO Hampton is not a strong mark of the ball ......he's quick with a wicked sidestep who loves to attack, run & carry .......his disposal is fine, his handball and decision making is fine

Hampton is similar to Yarran, do you play him back, centre or forward .......subject to his tank, he'd make a fine wingman, it's just the poor overhead aspect i don't like

Enjoy ....

So glad we got him. . He looks elusive and can win his own ball. He also liked really fast. Has a bit of xfactor too.

 

[Pdub]

It's funny that Gore is considered the steak knives of our trade week imports, yet he is the only one who's original club wanted to keep him.

 

[dylan123]

Not sure I agree with that.

 

[MRB37]

Have heard he is mending fences at the AFC since his departure from Port. Good for our Jackson chances.

Supposedly had a few offers in Melbourne, but didn't want to move since he's got young kids.

 

[Scorpus]

It's funny that Gore is considered the steak knives of our trade week imports, yet he is the only one who's original club wanted to keep him.

In hindsight Carlton will have wanted to keep Menzel

 

[King Elvis]

Transition and half back is critical to modern football and where the majority of offensive play starts.

Having a weapon like Smith at hb forces an immediate change in the opposition strategy, which results in further changes upfield.

We are much more dangerous across the ground with Smith at hb and our transition could be lethal.

This - Smith would no doubt be a weapon on the wing or the middle; but we have a massive problem getting the ball out of the back lines already - so I think Smith's value is highest there.

Of course, we hopefully won't have Mackay and VB playing as HBFs this year, so it might not matter.

 

[Pugsley]

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You could say he was wuuing him.

 

[lunacy]

Didn't know where to put this .....didn't want to resurrect the Hampton trade thread ....so here goes

This is for lunacy

This is a compilation of 3 games i think ....one in 2012, 2013, and 2015? ......forget as compiling is so tedious

Things to note IMO
1. Remember that in the first 3 seasons GWS was getting walloped .....IIRC Nth Melb won by 120 points
2. the 2012 games he played as a forward and IMO where he looked most natural
3. in 2013 they moved him to HB .....but he ended up in a BP .....looks like they were trying for him to emulate Chris Yarran, in fact he moves very similar ?

Back Pocket certainly saw the worse of Hampton .......his best was centre/forward where he had more space to run & carry
4. I've left in commentary where Hampton is praised by commentators

5. I must have watched 5 games of GWS / Hampton .....IMO Hampton is not a strong mark of the ball ......he's quick with a wicked sidestep who loves to attack, run & carry .......his disposal is fine, his handball and decision making is fine

Hampton is similar to Yarran, do you play him back, centre or forward .......subject to his tank, he'd make a fine wingman, it's just the poor overhead aspect i don't like

Enjoy ....

Thanks WW, I appreciate the effort. That must have taken a while. Great stuff .

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Sorry folks just realised that only one game was uploaded for Hampton .....oops

Great effort but...

Have you done the other two but not uploaded yet? If so, can't wait to see them.

 

[SES SA]

Have heard he is mending fences at the AFC since his departure from Port. Good for our Jackson chances.

First and foremost it should be done because he is a club legend and there is something very ugly about a bad relationship between player and club.

 

[SES SA]

It's funny that Gore is considered the steak knives of our trade week imports, yet he is the only one who's original club wanted to keep him.

Hopefully it pisses him off and motivates him.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Sorry folks just realised that only one game was uploaded for Hampton .....oops

Ok lunacy, Stiffy_18, 1990crow & Rory Walkerfield i have added the other two video's now into my original post #428 for Curtley Hampton ......sorry

 

[GrommoT]

Hopefully it pisses him off and motivates him.

Could that be his nickname? The Knife!