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Have you ever considered doing stand-up comedy Geoff ???
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Not at all. This is a ridiculous argument... You said comfortably win to which I DISAGREE.... Our list is also the worst in the AFL at the moment and the Hawks have the best. They are a well rounded all-star side and you, quite frankly, should be committed!
Totally agree.
These kids are going into the system way, way too early. Essentially they go from junior footy, skipping under19s, to senior footy (and that's counting VFL) in the blink of an eye. They haven't got the bodies or endurance.
American Football, they go into the Collegiate system and come out as mature 21 year olds.
Personally think the draft age should be raised to 19 minimum.
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I think he's made some very good points today.
My name geoff
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Just to summarize:
If hawthorn have our midfield/flankers but their KPP they lose
If hawthorn have our KPP but their midfield/flankers, they win
My point is that their midfield/flankers is their greatest strength.
Here's a novel thought, how about we aim to have both (really good midfield/flankers & KPP) ???
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You pick some hard battles Geoff, what is the point of this argument? Sounds like an argument for arguments sake. Personally I hope we get a forward with 8 and then 2 mids
Weitering
Weideman / Burton /Curnow
Oliver
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Weitering
Weideman / Burton /Curnow
Oliver
Gresham
Totally totally agree.
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I just have the impression that the club is not in a position to be picking up players with inherent risks (injury history) or who are raw (eg. McKay). Don't get me wrong, I love the McKay highlights video and Burton is a talent but both seem like icing on the cake type players. We need nuts and bolts type players at this stage of our development. Guys that aren't afraid to crack in hard and find the ball and will be around the action (and not wasting away up forward where the ball may hardly even go). Guys like Francis, Oliver, Mathieson, Balic, Dunkley, Partington fit the profile. Build a competitive midfield first IMO.
Yes - and KPP's take longer to mature.
So the preference is to start with them.
(But not stretch and take them for the sake of it!!!!)
I also think the game is changing to a faster more mobile style eg Roughie, Cameron, Gunston, Stringer.
I would therefore prefer us to pick Curnow, Francis style players ahead of Collins/McKay etc.
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There's more then one way to skin a cat. Sure the Hawks are the benchmark at the moment but like all teams they will be over taken. The only thing all good teams have in common is that they have good players all over the ground. We literally have about three or four players on our list that guaranteed best 22 players in five years time. For mine we are way too early into this rebuild not to be taking best available and trying to pick players because of the position that they play.
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Didn't intend on starting an argument, just stated an opinion that wasn't received very well haha
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Of course. My initial point is that ideally I would like to see (depending on quality) 1 forward, 1 defender, 3 goal kicking mid types from the national draft.
I have a bit of faith from the brief highlights that I have seen, that silvagni may be that forward.
If we are confident that we can develop silvagni into a gunston type, then we can look at trading in another ready to go forward (Tomlinson) in a year or two, and potentially have a midfield/flank/wings that can boast as many quality contributors as any other side
If we manage to get Tomlinson next year, our best 22 could look like this in 2017
Buckley Weitering Tuohy
Docherty Rowe Plowman
Kerridge Cripps Boekhorst
Kreuzer Murphy Oliver
Hibberd Tomlinson Gibbs
Sumner Silvagni Gresham
Graham, Byrne, Thomas, Jaksch
Provided BB can get guys like Buckley, Sumner and Jaksch up to a good standard, that is beginning to look like a decent amount of contributors
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Weitering is a lock at 1, then we have SOSOS so that is already 2 KPP player so at least 2 of our top 20 picks should be mids.
Weitering
Balic
Burton
Gresham
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Burton
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Plus silvagni I am assuming
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Jack Silvagni should come with no additional pressure other than his surname.. lets be honest, he is a key forward who if he didnt have the last name Silvagni probably would not have been drafted at all, and certainly not rated in the top 30 players in the draft.
He is very much a work in progress development player that is long odds to make it at AFL level.
He is very much a work in progress development player that is long odds to make it at AFL level.
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Someone tell me this ain't so please?
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At best would have been a late selection, probably has a lot of similarities with Reece Mckenzie who was pick 77 for the tigers last year.
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jack's a dud Thy! Didn't you hear the news? Lol
Not sure why he nominated this year TBH.
Barely played any junior footy..............and he'll always end up at our lot under F/S.
What's another year playing juniors???
I do hope that if Francis is still available at pick 8, we take him.
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That is a long way from what I said, it was more on the pressure and expectation of a raw 18yo kid to somehow be the saviour of our non existent forward line when the reality is the Jack will be lucky to play senior football for at least 2 years.
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I think its better to have him in an AFL system, look at what that has done for someone like Jessie Hogans development.
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