I too am shocked by the lack of Pinskier. Did we ever find out if he was a real bloke or were we Catfished?
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2015 Brisbane Lions Board Elections - Democracy comes to town Dec 17th
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How many big footy regulars have voting rights for the AGM? For Brisbane based members only premium members automatically get AGM voting rights while prime and standard members must pay for the September Member add on to get voting rights.
All Melbourne members automatically get AGM voting rights so Melbourne members proxy votes will more than likely determine the outcome of the board election.
All Melbourne members automatically get AGM voting rights so Melbourne members proxy votes will more than likely determine the outcome of the board election.
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A lil' bit of Brisbane Lions democracy. **** yeah.
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Myself and going by the discussion surrounding all the turmoil last year, quite a few others on this board.
Great - should I look out for a guy who looks like Dimebag Darrell?
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Pretty sure Brisbane based members can also get the Vic country membership to get voting rights, that's what I did last year, from memory it was the cheapest option.
The Lions election will all be held by postal ballot and there'll be no voting in person at the AGM as per the following email I've just received from the Club:
"Further to your nomination for election as a Director of the Club I wish to advise that at the close of nominations there were more nominations received than positions available on the Board. Consequently a vote will be required to determine which nominees will fill the 5 positions available. The Board has determined, pursuant to clause 9.12 of the Club’s Constitution, that the election of Directors shall take place by postal ballot.
You are invited to submit a short statement (up to 200 words) in support of your nomination which will be included with the ballot paper to be sent to members with Notice of the AGM. Should you wish to submit a statement please send it to me by email before the close of business on Friday 14 November to enable timetables for collation, printing and posting of papers to be met"
"Further to your nomination for election as a Director of the Club I wish to advise that at the close of nominations there were more nominations received than positions available on the Board. Consequently a vote will be required to determine which nominees will fill the 5 positions available. The Board has determined, pursuant to clause 9.12 of the Club’s Constitution, that the election of Directors shall take place by postal ballot.
You are invited to submit a short statement (up to 200 words) in support of your nomination which will be included with the ballot paper to be sent to members with Notice of the AGM. Should you wish to submit a statement please send it to me by email before the close of business on Friday 14 November to enable timetables for collation, printing and posting of papers to be met"
Although this is yet to be confirmed by the Club I believe the break down for the 5 board positions are as follows:
Standing down: Cameron Milner
Running for re-election: Leigh Mathews, Peter McGregor, Andrew Wellington, Mick Power
New candidates: Chris Raleigh, Ross Thornton and James Kliemt.
So 7 candidates for 5 positions.
Standing down: Cameron Milner
Running for re-election: Leigh Mathews, Peter McGregor, Andrew Wellington, Mick Power
New candidates: Chris Raleigh, Ross Thornton and James Kliemt.
So 7 candidates for 5 positions.
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Wasn't Thornton put forward as part of Leigh's ticket when pushing to get on the board? Might be difficult for Kliemt if that's still the case.
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Do not know, but would have thought Lethal & Power will run a joint ticket, perhaps with a few other incumbents. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
With only 1 vote per member I think joint tickets may not be that important.
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Perhaps. I'd like to think people will think beyond starry-eyed "ooh he played for the club" kinda thinking in deciding on a board candidate. For example, I found Laurie Serafini to be thoroughly unimpressive when I discussed some issues with him, and more than a little cocky and arrogant - his default position was to throw his weight around rather than engage.
Thornton to be fair does have some good business success to his name with McDonalds franchises IIRC, but other candidates might offer a point of difference in areas where the board is deficient.
Will be keeping an open, objective mind.
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Don't disagree but I was talking more from the point of view that Thornton will have the support of the incumbents, one of whom, Matthews, has considerable sway when it comes to influencing opinion. I think the fact that Thornton played with Fitzroy will be a factor, but a secondary one.
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Yeah, will be interesting if he receives some sort of "board endorsement".
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Sorry? There's 5 spots and members have a right to vote for each position. I may have misunderstood what you mean by the above, but I would have thought each member has a say on the make up of the board, not one spot on the board. In which case, I would have thought the ballot form will look like this:
motion for the re-election of Lethal yes/no/abstain
motion for the re-election of Power yes/no/abstain
motion for the re-election of Andrews yes/no/abstain
motion for the re-election of McGregor yes/no/abstain
motion for the election of Thornton yes/no/abstain
motion for the election of Raleigh yes/no/abstain
motion for the election of Kliemt yes/no/abstain
with a note that in the event that there are more elected directors than spots, those with the most 'for' votes get the gig.
If I'm right with the above, then it's similar to last year's EGM requisition, with Lethal holding the ace of 'vote for my team'.
If that's the case I apologise
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This is all above my head (which is a bit embarrassing as a formerPolitical Science grad).
How would this work if certain candidates run as a joint ticket?
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There wouldn't be a joint ticket in the sense of two people running for one spot. Even the EGM request form last year had separate motions Lethal, Smith and Thornton, even though they were well and truly a joint ticket at the time. So hypothetically you could vote for Lethal, but not for Smith and Thornton, but you would be less likely to because they were running together. IIRC, Lethal at the time played the 'I won't do it unless...' card. I don't think there's any reason for him to be that extreme this time, but he'd no doubt prefer particular candidates than others, particularly Power, so I could see him endorsing the incumbents to get that 'faction' as it were, more votes.
My concern with the 'one vote' suggestion was that each member has an entitlement to vote for each of the 5 spots up for grabs. Not just one candidate. To my mind, it means Lethal can do the same type of thing as last year.
Just received notice that Julie Greenwood and Phillip Di Bella have also nominated for a board position.
You may remember Di Bella by the following:
http://m.brisbanetimes.com.au/queen...rd-but-newman-stays-quiet-20140625-zsltt.html
You may remember Di Bella by the following:
http://m.brisbanetimes.com.au/queen...rd-but-newman-stays-quiet-20140625-zsltt.html
My understanding of the meaning of a joint ticket, is very much the same as a general government election. You have the option there of voting ALP for example, or ticking all the boxes. I don't think this can occur (although it might) for the board voting. I take it to mean for example, Leigh says "this is the board make up I endorse", listing the people he wants you to vote for. Nominees endorse each other, presenting voters with a 'team'. This influences voters to elect a team, albeit individually.
I could be wrong, but perhaps Chris thought that with a joint ticket, with only the ability to only vote once (for each position) if you vote for Leigh for example, you might be obliged to vote for his team. I doubt this would be the case, as Ginger points out, there is little reason for the extreme of 'I won't do it unless...' .
I could be wrong, but perhaps Chris thought that with a joint ticket, with only the ability to only vote once (for each position) if you vote for Leigh for example, you might be obliged to vote for his team. I doubt this would be the case, as Ginger points out, there is little reason for the extreme of 'I won't do it unless...' .
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Let the mud slinging begin, hey?
Would much prefer if each candidate just focused on their own candidacy, to be honest. I don't think our club needs to get dragged through a nasty campaign.
I agree with you 100%, my intention is definitely to run a positive campaign. I just couldn't help myself and had to include reference to this recent article. Apologies, won't happen again
Kliemt being involved with the soj campaign would get my vote over Thornton tbh.
RT has numerous McDonald stores now, and is a very busy man. Doubt he could be as involved from down here.
I can't vote, but I definitely want one of "us" on that board. James K has proven his worth bigtime.
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