The only real dominant ruckman in the league at the moment are Nic Nat, Goldstein and Gawn. Everyone else seems to just play less rated rucks or part time ruckman. The top four sides had Roughhead/Boyd, Nankervis/Tippett, Ceglar/McEvoy and Mumford/Lobb. From that the two grand final teams did not have a standout ruckman at all. It seems that all you really need is a ruckman that can bring the ball to ground in a ruck contest and a part time ruckforward that is more capable forward than in the ruck. I really really hope we do not burn our first pick on English as it has been proved this year and in the past that a standout ruckman is not a need and is definitely not the be all and end all. In finals it is mids and forwards that win you the games.
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Forwards win games,mids and defenders win premierships.
Probably correct. Didn't help any of the teams with dominant rucks win the GF though. NicNat is probably the most dominant ruckman in the game and is great around the ground. WCE got flogged in the GF by the Hawks.
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The main sell with English seems to be his ability on his hands and knees, but I'd rather SPS on his feet than English on his knees.
I think we'll get a good player with our first pick... Kinda hoping we don't reach for English though. Would much prefer SPS, Ainsworth, Taranto, ... or even Logue, Bolton or Florent. The problem is, we don't have another pick until 35... So we'll be missing out on a lot of these guys before we get our next chance. But still, it could be worse... We could be in Hawthorn's position (first pick at 88)!
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Got a nice little Taranto for you. Low miles, just one owner; a little old lady. Just used it once a week to pop down to Tescos...
187cm, 82kg. Strongest attribute is his overhead marking, big game hunter, been compared to Bartel and Parker but he himself models his game on Fyfe and Balic. Weakness is his kicking efficiency with an average of 54% at the TAC Cup. IMHO he would be my biggest preference behind SPS and maybe equal to Logue. Reckon Carlton will take him with their first.
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I think it all depends on our thinking of where the list is at, on paper the team looks like it could scrape
into the eight next year.
This year with a break before finals proves what is achievable, once you are there so they may want a
player who is ready made.
If their thinking is 2018, then English, etc, is a smart move, especially if we can teach Apeness, Pearce to
ruck, and English is used as a KP, played down back.
NN was an outstanding ruck for two years before being drafted, English is not even within daylight
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That the different between 2 and 7 , if not why gws prefer 2 than 3 or 7
- The kind of player you want in a GF. Big game player/confident in his ability.
- Dominated TAC football, something SPS struggled to do in colts footy.
- Can play multiple positions.
- Great tackler and doesn't mind getting dirty.
- Great contested ball winner
- Reads the play well, can find the ball on the outside.
- Great mark for his size.
- Hits the scoreboard.
- Seems to have a great footy IQ.
- Incredible endurance athlete.
I think the delisting of Barlow and SNOS is possibly a sign we might use our late picks on mature agers ahead of the rookie draft again.
I'd say there is a fair chance we'll draft Marlion Pickett this year as a player that could walk in and add something special off half back for us. We really need some line breakers back there and I don't think there'd be much to lose giving Pickett a chance in the big leagues. He's just turned 25 so still within our age profile. I liked what Weller and Crozier did down back and I could see Tucker in the mix also off half back but Marlion brings a completely different dimension that I think would make a massive difference to our rebound capability and work well in conjunction with our younger guys.
Yarran was clearly drafted to boost our goal scoring whilst we were thinking we were still in our window but I get the feeling Ross still liked the outcome anyway and it has probably got him and our recruiters thinking there is more gold (or goals) to be found in the state leagues (particularly our own backyard WAFL), especially with mature age indigenous players that may not have been in the best position to be drafted at 18/19yo.
I also like Francis Watson (as a cat B) as the longer term prospect in this role if he isn't rookie listed by another club.
We are more likely to draft Liam Ryan than West Coast imo. And it would be a brave club outside WA to take a chance on him given his story. A supportive AFL environment could address some of his weaknesses including his endurance, so I'm not that bothered about his beep test result personally. If he was a midfielder that would be a different story.
If we got SPS/Ainsworth/Brodie/Taranto, Pickett, Ryan and Watson and still used #35 and #40 on some draft sliders I think it'd be a very good draft for us. Loving the amount of WA talent potentially available to us this draft. Crossing fingers non-WA clubs are more hesitant to draft them given the exodus back to WA during the trade period. Hopefully it all works in our favour.
I'd say there is a fair chance we'll draft Marlion Pickett this year as a player that could walk in and add something special off half back for us. We really need some line breakers back there and I don't think there'd be much to lose giving Pickett a chance in the big leagues. He's just turned 25 so still within our age profile. I liked what Weller and Crozier did down back and I could see Tucker in the mix also off half back but Marlion brings a completely different dimension that I think would make a massive difference to our rebound capability and work well in conjunction with our younger guys.
Yarran was clearly drafted to boost our goal scoring whilst we were thinking we were still in our window but I get the feeling Ross still liked the outcome anyway and it has probably got him and our recruiters thinking there is more gold (or goals) to be found in the state leagues (particularly our own backyard WAFL), especially with mature age indigenous players that may not have been in the best position to be drafted at 18/19yo.
I also like Francis Watson (as a cat B) as the longer term prospect in this role if he isn't rookie listed by another club.
We are more likely to draft Liam Ryan than West Coast imo. And it would be a brave club outside WA to take a chance on him given his story. A supportive AFL environment could address some of his weaknesses including his endurance, so I'm not that bothered about his beep test result personally. If he was a midfielder that would be a different story.
If we got SPS/Ainsworth/Brodie/Taranto, Pickett, Ryan and Watson and still used #35 and #40 on some draft sliders I think it'd be a very good draft for us. Loving the amount of WA talent potentially available to us this draft. Crossing fingers non-WA clubs are more hesitant to draft them given the exodus back to WA during the trade period. Hopefully it all works in our favour.
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Not from the games I've seen. He has shown very little and is a long way off having an AFL body.
Or does SOS delisting open the door for Little Uber Giant to get an upgrade?
With a few extra forwards coming in, maybe Uebergang can concentrate on becoming that 3rd tall defender, MJ type player we're gagging for.
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I doubt it due to his injuries at the wrong time.
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