2017 Non Crows AFL Discussion Thread

[fabs33]

At least they're long, Jaensch and Mackay built a reputation of having elite legs based on less. Of course you obviously haven't watched a lot of him. He's one of the very few players who held onto the ball, created a bit of time and space with keg speed and was prepared to identify an execute to a target in space. He's also the only player who regularly hit a forward target in the debacle against the Eagles last year.

Just how fast does an average keg go?

 

[BRL121]

Just how fast does an average keg go?

If it's like Boonie, pretty fast!

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Thanks for that, too.
As far as the Shanghai home game / home ground is concerned Gold Coast was not asked to 'give up' per se but to sell certain game-control rights to one of their eleven 2017 home games which has been relocated to Shanghai. This arrangement has been credited as 'innovative' according to global standards by a London sports business magazine.
The transfer sum involved I have seen / heard quoted as a minimum of $400k and a maximum of $600k.
As things stand the funding (via PAFC) for this, plus the balance of the cost of the Round 8 project, originates mainly from AusGOLD Mining, who are the main Match sponsors as well as Open To The World programme sponsors, and also from Mr Gui Guojie who signed the MoU in Shanghai in April 2016 with Gil McLachlan and Keith Thomas, witnessed by the PM.
One of the clauses in that MoU promised an AFL match for premiership points would be staged in Shanghai as soon as possible. This match is part of Mr Gui's 'Gift to Shanghai', his home town, so it's logical that part of his first year's instalment in the three-year deal (paid in advance), and second year no doubt, would go towards the Round 8 project ... as well as other aspects of the continuous game development programme being orchestrated, in Shanghai, via the Shanghai Tigers FC in conjunction with South China AFL in Guangdong and Hong Kong where PAFC have been developing AFL for three years.
To my knowledge AFL House has not to this point contributed any funding, but is providing essential services in support of the project. I say again: 'to this point'. I'm unaware what funding, if any, will come later.
Other partners, of whom Cathay Pacific is the most obvious, are providing services and funding. Discussions with other benefactors are ongoing in the Club's quest to at a minimum break even on an international event that - regardless of result, both on- and off-field - will write a new piece of sports history for Australia. DFAT are pretty keen on this. They call it Sports Diplomacy.
On the subject of Gold Coast wearing their red livery - and this is my personal comment only - this will hugely benefit the exposure of our great game across China via TV and social media. A casual Chinese surfer, attracted by the red and gold on his or her screen would be more inclined to dally a while, thereby boosting viewership and related data on our road to a potentially lucrative national CCTV contract sooner rather than later.
Hope this helps.
BTW, Mr Gui, soft-spoken little battler that he is, won his share of the pastoral leases to the Kidman cattle stations at his third attempt, not second.

So yeah, not your home game.

 

[Mego Red]

Id do gov + cheney for DG plus top 10 pick

Pity Collingwood wouldn't!

 

[StonesThrow]

And of the Western Bulldogs $5+Million gross profit from Pokie Machines in 2015??
And god knows how much in 2016.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/hawthorn-tops-the-pokies-losses-ladder-20160404-gnxys2.html

Good point that I didn't even think to mention. I'm glad the crows don't have any.

 

[Thetrader15]

I think that is madness. Would you want DeGoey as a genuine full-time mid ?? Cos as a small forward, he wouldn't get a game. That trade puts us even further away from a flag imo.

Effectively would be a top 10 for gov and DG for Cheney. Could then decide what to do with the top 10

 

[1970crow]

Just how fast does an average keg go?

I'm still pretty quick over 10m

 

[sgPanther]

Surely truly selling home games would have to be against AFL rules. What's the point in a draw if a club can just buy a home game for money? This paying another club to move their game is smelly but at least doesn't break the draw.

 

[FR0GGY]

can we buy some home games?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

can we buy some home games?

From Geelong and Sydney please

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

can we buy some home games?

Why not. Chuck some money towards North, GC, Brisbane, GWS, and Port, all the welfare clubs, and have a season of home games.

 

[GreyCrow]

I'm still pretty quick over 10m

Anything like me the 11th metre is the heart attack one

 

[1970crow]

From Geelong and Sydney please

With Geelong, we should give Brisbane that game and buy their Carlton game from them. Playing Geelong twice or 3 times won't impact their season.

 

[footy4ever]

So yeah, not your home game.

Ba ha ha ha. It was a painful read. Full of self kudos and big nobbing and name-dropping.

Kill me when I'm swayed, by a London sports business magazine crediting the china game as being 'innovative' according to global standards, to believe that the China game is anything more than a waste of AFL money and resources, or a big-noting of knob heads whose egos are way too big for their self inflated positions. This charade of its purpose being to expand trade relations with China is rhetoric peddled by people who have everything to gain personally and politically from all the networking and shoulder rubbing, especially if the AFL and State Government are coughing up money to help finance these elite little soirees, as I suspect they are.

As if the AFL needs to expand globally. It already doesn't know what to do with the gazillions of $$ it already makes. I doubt it has the personnel to handle a bigger budget. Apart from greed in hoping it'll bring in $$ to the AFL and individual teams, I see no point in trying to convince China or any other country that they should be getting interested in AFL. The game will never damage trade relations for sure but there are more tangible ways to promote international trade rather than trying to squeeze $$ out of organisations to sponsor a ****ing alien football team, or agreeing to blackmail, at the buyer's request, the buyer who wanted to buy the biggest land holding in Australia. But you know, "you might want to sponsor a footy team to show how interested you are in supporting the Australian culture...that'll look pretty good on your CV when you wanna, you know, get permission to take over half of the countryside. Oh, and while we're here, try this Tim Tam, you'll ****ing love it cobber". Caarn.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

I just love the whole "first foreign competition to play in China for points" as though it's a thing.

Like the EPL, NBA, NFL, MLB etc are going to be watching envious of the fact Port did it first.

It's also factually incorrect. V8 Super cars is an elite domestic competition and has had a race in China for points. And if those Chinese didn't go out and load up on Falcons and Commodores after the race.

 

[Thetrader15]

At least they're long, Jaensch and Mackay built a reputation of having elite legs based on less. Of course you obviously haven't watched a lot of him. He's one of the very few players who held onto the ball, created a bit of time and space with keg speed and was prepared to identify an execute to a target in space. He's also the only player who regularly hit a forward target in the debacle against the Eagles last year.

Well as long as he was better than mckay we should have kept him

 

[Pdub]

I just love the whole "first foreign competition to play in China for points" as though it's a thing.

Like the EPL, NBA, NFL, MLB etc are going to be watching envious of the fact Port did it first.

It's also factually incorrect. V8 Super cars is an elite domestic competition and has had a race in China for points. And if those Chinese didn't go out and load up on Falcons and Commodores after the race.

I bet countless Chinese people bought flights to Bathurst too.

 

[Swooping Crow]

Well as long as he was better than mckay we should have kept him

Not sure who would win the squib contest. Hendo in a thriller!

 

[Sanders]

I have watched a lot of him. He has a long kick. He has a few good games per year. But in my opinion when he has a poor to typical game he tends to be a slow decision maker that loves the bomb. He doesn't have a game breaking kick.

He's always been a good user of the ball, and I can't feel uncomfortable that a guy who wasn't good enough for us, has been snapped up by a much more professional & successful outfit

Watch him be a regular in their 22 and thrive.

Also, not sure Mackay has a reputation for being a good kick

He does

 

[Sanders]

There's a reason he was delisted.

Yeah what would hawthorn know, what have they ever done?

 

[dogs105]

Yeah what would hawthorn know, what have they ever done?

You're a Vickery fan too, aren't you? He'll do alright.

 

[Ramify]

Yeah what would hawthorn know, what have they ever done?

Just trying to think of any other clubs rejects that they have recruited who havent played their best footy there?

Anyone?

Edit: Under Clarkson that is.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Just trying to think of any other clubs rejects that they have recruited who havent played their best footy there?

Anyone?

Edit: Under Clarkson that is.

Even that Fitzspudrick guy kicked us out of a home final

 

[Sanders]

You're a Vickery fan too, aren't you? He'll do alright.

Fan is too far, but I know when there is a gap between perception and performance.

Most people piling into Vickery haven't watched him. He'll go ok.

 

[subaru]

Why not. Chuck some money towards North, GC, Brisbane, GWS, and Port, all the welfare clubs, and have a season of home games.

Hilarious !