2018 Draft thread

[briztoon]

Waiting for 2018 to be called shallow soon and 2019 as the super-mega-deep-draft.

lol. Don’t worry, already read from one of the Draft Express reporters that it looks like another strong group of underagers in this years TAC cup.

 

[briztoon]

I wonder if we can convince a club from the top 8 this year to swap their first round pick for our 2019 first.

Unlikely. Maybe a club in the 10 to 12 range, if we offered our 2018 2nd round pick and our 2019 1st round for the other teams 2018 1st rounder and 2019 2nd rounder.

 

[briztoon]

Pies could benefit from Next Gen Academy
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-27/pies-could-be-big-winner-from-next-gen-academy

Among West Coast's 10 possibilities is Jarrod Cameron, a sharp and speedy forward who is the younger brother of Brisbane's Charlie.

 

[a mayes ing]

It's so ridiculous, these players are already playing underage AFL and were already going to be an AFL player. They have done nothing to get them to play AFL.

 

[Dalions]

It's so ridiculous, these players are already playing underage AFL and were already going to be an AFL player. They have done nothing to get them to play AFL.

Goes against the whole idea of the system.

 

[SizeMatters]

I'm so against this next gen shit. These are kids that have played footy since they were 4 or 5 and are in better leagues than we have here in QLD. Should be controlled by the AFL FFS.

 

[briztoon]

Basically the AFL’s way to appease the southern clubs over the northern academies.

Ok, not defending the AFL here, but we’ll probably see a similar ratio of talent spread through the NGA academies as we’ve seen in the Northern academies thus far.

A couple of high end prospects, but many more mid tier and lower tier kids.

Now clubs will have to decide if they take their NGA kids or draft for need.

My gut feel will be with so many kids tied to clubs now, we’ll see more honest bids on players, rather than letting them slide a little.

 

[seanthelion]

Basically the AFL’s way to appease the southern clubs over the northern academies.

Ok, not defending the AFL here, but we’ll probably see a similar ratio of talent spread through the NGA academies as we’ve seen in the Northern academies thus far.

A couple of high end prospects, but many more mid tier and lower tier kids.

Now clubs will have to decide if they take their NGA kids or draft for need.

My gut feel will be with so many kids tied to clubs now, we’ll see more honest bids on players, rather than letting them slide a little.

There was an article about concerns over the predictability of drafts recently. Throw in father-sons picks and it's less of a lottery and more of an intentional allocation.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-08/comment-is-the-draft-becoming-compromised

 

[briztoon]

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-plans-two-day-draft-20180328-p4z6sb.html

AFL plans two-day draft

The AFL is proposing to transform the national draft into a two-day event that features live trading of picks, starting this year.

The AFL will write to clubs on Thursday, detailing how it intends to revolutionise the national draft into an event over two days – imitating the multi-day drafts in American professional sports – in a revamp that gives clubs time to complete trades.

In the letter to clubs, the AFL will propose that the first round of the national draft will be on day one and held in the evening, with the remaining rounds completed the following day.

Under the proposed revamp, the clubs would be given five minutes between each draft pick and would be given access to a ‘‘war room’’ – a private room in the building – in which to discuss their potential trading options.

While the AFL is keen to introduce trading into the draft – a proposal that has been largely supported by clubs – it is proposing to the clubs that trading will be confined to the exchange of draft choices, but potentially including future picks.

In outlining these plans to clubs, the AFL will also seek input from the 18 clubs over how the draft trading should function and, in particular, what restrictions – and boundaries – should be imposed on the trading of future picks.

While the AFL will declare its ‘‘intent’’ to make these radical changes to the national draft, the proposal is not set in stone and has to be approved by the AFL Commission.

The league is also keen to hear feedback from the clubs before proceeding.

It will also need to work closely with the broadcaster, Fox Footy. The AFL is yet to decide where the national draft will be held this year, though it would arguably be easier if it was in Melbourne if held over two days for the first time.

The AFL will not proceed with the trading of players (either those just selected or listed players) during the draft this year, because it believes that the clubs and players are not yet ready for that momentous change.

The question of how far it should go in allowing the trading of future picks is one in which the clubs are expected to have a major influence. The AFL would consider permitting clubs to trade over up to three drafts, rather than the current rule that confines future trading to two consecutive national drafts.

But it is considered likely that the clubs will be allowed to trade future draft picks – for at least one extra season – this year, in line with what happens in the trade period.

There are conflicting views in the AFL industry about the trading of future picks. One argument, which some list managers and officials hold, is that there should be no major restrictions and that clubs should be free to make decisions – even if they are potentially disastrous.

The other view is that the competition should impose restrictions – such as the current limits (teams are supposed to have two first-round picks over four years) – to protect clubs from mortgaging their futures. There are two major objectives behind the AFL’s proposal. One is that it frees up the system and allows greater movement for players and clubs – an goal pushed by both AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan and his football lieutenant Steven Hocking. The second objective is that it will stimulate greater interest in the draft and trading and in player movement generally.

The next national draft will be largely shaped by the new competition committee which is being set up by Hocking to shape key football decisions and will discuss the draft at the first meeting in April. Applications to join the group close on Thursday.

The draft in American football’s NFL is held over three days and allows significant trading.

 

[briztoon]

There was an article about concerns over the predictability of drafts recently. Throw in father-sons picks and it's less of a lottery and more of an intentional allocation.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-08/comment-is-the-draft-becoming-compromised

I like the idea of fans, if they're interested, of being able to follow the development of their clubs' academy kids right through to the draft. I understand clubs will be reticent in talking up their academy kids, not wanting to put any pressure or expectations on players so young, but there is an interest from some supporters that clubs could market if they figure out an appropriate model.

I'm so against this next gen shit. These are kids that have played footy since they were 4 or 5 and are in better leagues than we have here in QLD. Should be controlled by the AFL FFS.

I agree, players such as Taryn Thomas, Isaac Quaynor, Ethan Penrith, Jason Carter, Jake Firebrace and Buku Khamis were already in the system and involved in some level of club, state or rep footy before the introduction of NGA's.

I do not mind the focus on indigenous kids from outside of Melbourne, as we have seen in the past talented individuals fail to make it due to cultural differences. Hopefully all clubs are developing better welfare programs along side their NGA programs to support these kids.

I'm much more skeptical of the clubs involvement with kids from multicultural backgrounds. Kids play sport, and they tend to play the local sport, whether that be AFL, NRL, or in a wider world view Gridiron or basketball, etc. I understand many of these kids probably come from cultures where football (i.e. soccer, the real football) is the preeminant sport.

If an NGA club can demonstrate that it's brought the kid in to AFL, and provided a pathway and support, fair enough, but kids such as Quaynor and Khamis were already part of the AFL pathway before the introduction of the NGA's.

 

[irel]

briztoon you do realize that the draft is not the main event. There's an event called an AFL competition and a premiership to be won.

 

[briztoon]

briztoon you do realize that the draft is not the main event. There's an event called an AFL competition and a premiership to be won.

Really? for you maybe!

Have you reminded those commenting on the trade and free agency thread this as well? Or the Springfield thread? Or the numerous other threads that do not directly discuss the mens team?

As far as I am concerned the draft, and the kids we draft, are directly related to us winning the premiership.

I'd love to see an academy thread as well.

 

[Hollow Knight]

I'd love to see an academy thread as well.

We have one.

 

[briztoon]

We have one.

I know. What I should have said was more updates and discussion.

Not quite academy, but young Bradshaw got a mention in Knightmare's weekly round up.

 

[Knightmare]

I know. What I should have said was more updates and discussion.

Not quite academy, but young Bradshaw got a mention in Knightmare's weekly round up.

He has some skills, vision and smarts.

Didn't star in 2017, but if he builds on last weekends performance, he is one to have on the clubs draft radar as a mid/high forward. Looking potentially draftable.

 

[briztoon]

Kicke 5,5 in the first half.

 

[jjami15]

Kicke 5,5 in the first half.

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We already have a string bean forward . As you know Briztoon the top is rated extremely highly which awesome for us....this year. Could be similar to the NFL draft, QB's taken early and Forwards in the AFL, leaving best mid for us, that is if we finish that low of course.

 

[briztoon]

We already have a string bean forward . As you know Briztoon the top is rated extremely highly which awesome for us....this year. Could be similar to the NFL draft, QB's taken early and Forwards in the AFL, leaving best mid for us, that is if we finish that low of course.

I was y posting the tweet, suggesting we draft Max King. Just keeping peeps updated. If you look at the King twins, they definitely have the frames to fill out.

If Lukosius is as good as advertised, and available at our pick, and we draft a mid, i’ll throw something at my tv.

 

[trikster]

If Lukosius is as good as advertised, and available at our pick, and we draft a mid, i’ll throw something at my tv.

I second this motion.

Mind you, the way we have played in the first game and a half of the season we could well have pick 1 again .....

 

[weevil]

If Rankine is as good as advertised, and available at our pick, and we draft a tall, I’ll throw something at my TV.

 

[kenberger]

#teamlukosius

 

[SizeMatters]

Lukosius is the next reiwoldt. Book Mark it. If we have the chance to draft him and don' tthere must be a ****ing good reason as to why or I will melt big time. Most talented forward I've seen since I've taken up draft watching. Is the complete package with absolutely no weaknesses at this stage.

 

[briztoon]

Lukosius is the next reiwoldt. Book Mark it. If we have the chance to draft him and don' tthere must be a ******* good reason as to why or I will melt big time. Most talented forward I've seen since I've taken up draft watching. Is the complete package with absolutely no weaknesses at this stage.

I’m waiting for the under 18 championships, hoping to see if the Lions bottom age forwards make the Allies squad.

Only question I have is, can two similar forwards in Lukosius and Hipwood exist in the one team?

I’m thinking they might still need Full Forward to properly effective.

 

[SizeMatters]

I’m waiting for the under 18 championships, hoping to see if the Lions bottom age forwards make the Allies squad.

Only question I have is, can two similar forwards in Lukosius and Hipwood exist in the one team?

I’m thinking they might still need Full Forward to properly effective.

Lukosius has an elite football brain and natural instincts which is something I think Hipwood lacks. IMO of course. I think Hipwood can work with any combination of 'types' as the second forward just don't think he is cut out to be the number 1 target unlike lukosius.

 

[jjami15]

It does look like that we are needing another KPF and one that can be the No1 target. Could Ballenden, Wooller or even Skinner play as that tall? Most probably not but another strong marking KPF is a need. If we were to finish last there is no way that we wouldn't be drafting Lukosius but the way the Dogs look at the moment we might not need to worry.