List Mgmt. 2018 St Kilda Trade Thread Part 4

[plugger66]

well, for once next year's draft isn't shaping as better than this years'. I can't see a logical argument to against swapping pick three or five this year for our first next year. The quicker we can bring in elite talent the better. We need to make our assets work for us rather than have them sitting there doing nothing.

Imagine rankine and lukosious having great first years with us, how much more attractive will we be to FA if that was the case?

What do the other club get out of it though

 

[VDS66]

I know his sister and so have a soft spot for him. I would still crack the shits pretty hard. Plugger would love him too. Perhaps we could trade Stuv for him and Lobb.

And pick 4? Or no deal...

 

[Mikka84]

Not sure why Suns would trade May unless they got a top 5 pick.

Will surely land them better than that next year.

Next years first?.

 

[gringo2011]

2018 off-season
Hannerbery trade
Kent
Pick 18 and 54 for Bruce, Lonie and pick 28
Patton for 54
Pick 4 for Pick 6, 15 and Amon
Pick 6= Rozee/ Smith
Pick 15 and 18= Best available
Rookie= Barlow as an extra leader, experienced campaigner

If that happens, that would be one hell of an off-season IMO. Improves our depth significantly and we could be a serious surprise package in 2019 with hopefully improvement from the players, as well as new assistants and the players we have brought. Sandy will also be very very strong if this happens, which is the sign of a very good football club.

Bruce and Lonie for a 10 place up grade is crazy. Amon would be worth nothing but a delisted free agent. I would want much more than that for 4 as well.

 

[Saint Watto]

I have this horrible feeling he’s going to be in the side round 1.

I have to say Diehard......that would be a gut churning thought.....I'm confident that he won't be and the club is waiting for a clearer picture on what they'll do draft time.

If he is playing round 1....channel 10 should sign him up for next years Survivor series....he truly would by then have been a great Survivor !!!!!!

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

'George' read the dribble written on coops trade page. It was word for word.

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“Coops” trade page?

 

[gringo2011]

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Why are we getting a high priced defender in when we need mids again?

 

[plugger66]

Why are we getting a high priced defender in when we need mids again?

Who are we getting

 

[St BKD]

I was thinking about this this morning. If they (and many do) think Rankin is the best in the draft, is 4 for 6 and 10 that much overs?

If it was pick 1 for 6 and 10 does that look more balanced? It’s about the player that’s will be available at 4. If it’s Rankin then I think 4 for 6 and 10 is fare.

Yer it's pretty simple IMO. They are the ones that are desperate. We don't have to move #4... we can just keep it. So make them pay overs or we will.

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[SufferingS8INT]

This. Why dont we push players to join GC. There desperate for players to join them. So much so. Theyll pay way overs to get them in. Target their picks.

I would hope we’re working on something ie Bruce, Armo, Weller etc.

 

[AaronSCHQ]

Just read it somewhere who knows. Delusional but just got me excited

Fair enough.. I’d be asking for 18 for Bruce on its own. Might be overs, but that’s my asking price.

 

[lewdogs]

I really like the look of those Port picks. They have 6, 10 and probably 15 that they'll get for Wingard. Some options:
4 for 6 +10
4 + 28 for 6 + 10
4 + 28 for 6 + 10 + 15

Probably the second option is the only one that would fly. I'd snap that up.

In terms of Adelaide they have 8 + 13 + 16. They're not as tasty as Ports.
But I'd do 4 for 8+13. Or just 4 for the whole lot.

 

[Rors]

I keep envisioning a reality where we manage to somehow pick up both of the Kings and have them as our bookends for the next decade, it'd be pretty incredible.

I have this recurring dream, which has since turned into a nightmare, from the end of 2014 where we picked 2 KPPs with our first 2 picks & said the exact same thing

 

[plugger66]

Yer it's pretty simple IMO. They are the ones that are desperate. We don't have to move #4... we can just keep it. So make them pay overs or we will.

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But if we like the deal you just do it. No point in screwing them to the point nothing happens

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

What do the other club get out of it though

lonie or bruce?

 

[StCicatriz]

So are these comments about Smith's speed and kicking based on seeing him playing with a significant foot injury, or when he was injury free?

Because going into the season, two of the attributes he was best known for were his speed and excellent kicking.

How did injured Luke Ball look compared to non-injured Luke Ball, since he's a topic of conversation? How did injured Roo in the latter half of his last year look compared to him the year before, when he was much closer to full fitness?

How did Acres, Carlisle, Webster, Battle, Dunstan and Long go post injuries (or while playing injured) this year, compared to pre-injuries?

If we draft Smith, we're not getting him for who he'll be if he's playing injured, we're getting him for how he'll play when he's not!

they were from his performances in the championships, so if he was injured like you say (i didnt know he was), then you are correct, we should be basing it off of what we think he will become, not what his output was when injured

having said that if his injury was not hampering him then i wouldnt say he's quick

it will be interesting to see which way we go

 

[bird_man]

Next years first?.

Then why wouldn't they just keep him and get a first next year as a FA though?

 

[St BKD]

Really? Good judges had Smith at pick #1 for a while last year. This year affected by injury. I find Walsh underwhelming- a but slow. Smith is quicker. I'd be very happy with Smith

Your in for a big surprise over the next few years if you 'find him underwhelming'

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[StCicatriz]

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doesnt make much sense :-(

cant see us trading a high pick for a defender and GC know unless something goes pear shaped they'll get pick 1-3 for him next year.

 

[sunny3193]

And pick 4? Or no deal...

Looking like rain Tuesday and Wednesday

 

[gringo2011]

Fair enough.. I’d be asking for 18 for Bruce on its own. Might be overs, but that’s my asking price.

It will cost more to replace him for that so it would be silly not to keep him if we didn't get way overs. Puts us back next couple of years while we get a forward in and develop them. Otherwise we could get Hogan for pick four and he'd get a similar output to Bruce.

We can't really sell Bruce unless there is someone ready to go to replace him.

 

[SufferingS8INT]

If you had to trade one out of Bruce and Lonie which one would you trade and why.

Bruce as we have a surplus of tall forwards.

 

[Snailspace13]

With GWS shipping Scully and Patton of for peanuts,i wonder what Dildo will offer for Shiel.

 

[Mikka84]

Then why wouldn't they just keep him and get a first next year as a FA though?

Makes more sense their end. Probably get pick 2 next year?

I guess it’s how badly he wants out and causing any issues.. you would think he stays. Surely.

 

[gringo2011]

Bruce as we have a surplus of tall forwards.

That's like selling your best mid because you have some shit ones though.