Mega Thread 2018 Trade Period Discussion part 2! (cont. in Part 3 - link in OP)

[GROTTO]

No chance are Port Adelaide trading Wingard to Crows.

Unless it’s like 8, 12, 16 and 22. Something ridiculous

and Riccuito's first and second born sons.

Yep, there is no way they would let him come to us.

Which begs the question, why didnt we get Wingard to stay another year and come as FA.

Ports season will be shot by May or June next year in any case.

 

[FR0GGY]

Scrimshaw to the hawks for free

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

WTAF???

Seriously, is it a complete shit show down at alberton? Their medical team is in South Africa during trade week of all times!!!

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/l...m/news-story/93146276f4b8e8197744fa8319b8a784

“This has been the worldwide deal, because you’ve got the Port Adelaide medical team flying from their seminar in South Africa to Vegas to test Burton,” Edmund said.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Uhh Scrimshaw just got traded for what will probably be a 10 pick upgrade in the third round at best

Suns giving away players like there’s no tomorrow lmao

 

[GROTTO]

yeah i would entertain a wingard trade .. not a top 10 pick though .. pick 13 or 16.

I would be happy for pick 16 to take Wingard. Even our 2019 1st would be better.

 

[hey shorty]

Surely there is a club out there that will take Kelly. Don't see a lot of opportunity for him at the crows. Maybe a St Kilda or Carlton would be a better fit imo.

There would be a few clubs he could line up for, the thing is he really isnt worth much.

 

[GROTTO]

WTAF???

Seriously, is it a complete shit show down at alberton? Their medical team is in South Africa during trade week of all times!!!

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/l...m/news-story/93146276f4b8e8197744fa8319b8a784

“This has been the worldwide deal, because you’ve got the Port Adelaide medical team flying from their seminar in South Africa to Vegas to test Burton,” Edmund said.

FFS How was Port expected to know that players move Clubs during the trade period?

 

[mick500]

It was reported back at the start of trade week that he wanted something in the order of $1m x 5 years. If that was actually his demands, I assume he's since lowered his price, because I'm sure Hawthorn wouldn't be bringing him in on that kind of coin? I certainly wouldn't be handing over a first round pick or two AND paying that kind of salary. That kind of money is for the free agents where you're not giving up anything except money.

Yeah that's ridiculous.

Pretty sure hawthorn have policies not to pay anything like that, and wingard is not worth that. I was thinking more 550 to 650k.

 

[cm_perfect]

I’ve had dinner with him a couple of times. Funny guy.

I hope pick 2 and 3's mum was there!!!

 

[jenny61_99]

The names escape me at the moment, but I know of a couple of Crows players that we let go for compassionate reasons and allowed a smooth transfer.

I think there was a ruckman we had from Perth and Kane Johnson IIRC too as well.

The problem with being compassionate is that you know someone will exploit the system well.

We have always been fair and reasonable and do the right thing for the player. But now players just think they can do it whenever they damn well like, and it's just not on. Players have FAR too much control in all this (once they've been drafted). Need to pull some back.

 

[Murray2503]

A hypothetical

We trade 8 & 16 to Brisbane for 5 & 32
We trade 13 & 21 to Essendon for 9 & 34
We trade 9 & 32 to Port for Wingard
With pick 5 we grab one of the SA boys or Bailey Smith - so end up with Smith, Wingard, McAdam & Stengle (late trade) + take pick 34 to the draft

You lost me at wingard. Wouldn't go anywhere near him.

 

[hey shorty]

Uhh Scrimshaw just got traded for what will probably be a 10 pick upgrade in the third round at best

Suns giving away players like there’s no tomorrow lmao

At least the Giants are making people work for their firesale

 

[jo172]

The names escape me at the moment, but I know of a couple of Crows players that we let go for compassionate reasons and allowed a smooth transfer.

I think there was a ruckman we had from Perth and Kane Johnson IIRC too as well.

The problem with being compassionate is that you know someone will exploit the system well.

Also received Scott Welsh and James Begley for cents on the dollar for compassionate reasons.

Swings and roundabouts.

 

[Golumless]

All im saying is wingards value is at an all time low. Agreed? He wants to stay in SA reportedly. Hawthorn have screwed around and wasted ports time and wingards time, also making them look desperate.

Now is the time to enquire, and enquire again if we already have, because they may take less than they would have before just to get the deal done.

The fact there has been no mention of us enquiring or being in talks with Port about wingard I find baffling. Even if we don't plan on going through with a deal, why wouldn't we want it in our back pocket if our other plans fall through.

It's like I have always said. It's like the crows recruiters can only focus on 1 player or 1 trade at a time. Slow to act. Takes forever to get even a minor move completed. Unless it's a player leaving. That's usually pretty smooth and quick.

There has been a lot of smoke about Wingard absolutely hating us for how we treated him prior to him being drafted. That enquiry (and we would have made one) was most likely a very quick "thanks but no thanks".

 

[mick500]

Go back and look. The post directly above yours. I said and I quote :

"Well I think that's is why now is the time to strike. Port are now aware of what he's worth . And what he's worth is at an all time low. If we swoop in and offer a no f ing around straight up fair trade and get it done we win.

Just keep it simple. Is he worth pick 8 or 13? Or pick 8 and 13, or Kelly on his own? What would Port accept out of those? Obviously we don't want to give 8 and 13 if we don't have to. Maybe 26 and Kelly?

We could get it done and offer whatever hawks pay for him. And I would rather see him in crows colours than hawthorn colours."

That's before you posted. So how's that going back and trying to make it look better afterwards. You are wrong. You can admit it, or be an internet troll and try and weasel your way out of it and be added to my ignore list.

Golumless Gonna plead the 5th on this one? Spineless .

 

[mickfaxis]

There has been a lot of smoke about Wingard absolutely hating us for how we treated him prior to him being drafted. That enquiry (and we would have made one) was most likely a very quick "thanks but no thanks".

Correct.

 

[CrowHop]

The names escape me at the moment, but I know of a couple of Crows players that we let go for compassionate reasons and allowed a smooth transfer.

I think there was a ruckman we had from Perth and Kane Johnson IIRC too as well.

The problem with being compassionate is that you know someone will exploit the system well.

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[Rory Walkerfield]

Scrimshaw to the hawks for free

Wow. Just wow. Hawks picking up Scully and Scrimshaw for absolute peanuts. At the expense of expansion teams. VFL keeps delivering.

 

[Murray2503]

We have always been fair and reasonable and do the right thing for the player. But now players just think they can do it whenever they damn well like, and it's just not on. Players have FAR too much control in all this (once they've been drafted). Need to pull some back.

Gillan is a bloody disappointment. Has handed everything on a silver platter to the players association and vfl clubs.

 

[Cap]

Scimshaw given away. Bloody hard to compete with Vic clubs when they are handed high picks 2 years after they left.

Even if he isn't any good, he is still depth.

 

[Scorpus]

Scrimshaw for a third round pick.

Why have we never gotten in on the fire sale of first round talent from the expansion teams? They are literally giving players away

 

[mick500]

There has been a lot of smoke about Wingard absolutely hating us for how we treated him prior to him being drafted. That enquiry (and we would have made one) was most likely a very quick "thanks but no thanks".

Yeah, reply to the other post you made then we can talk.

 

[betterthanu]

Stengle deal about to go though apparently

 

[hey shorty]

So what favour chips are we giving Richmond for Stengle ??

 

[Stiffy_18]

So Trade Radio saying Gold Coast still negotiating with the Crows, to get Josh Francou as an assistant Coach .....can we please STOP all these lies !

Watch us land picks 2 and 3 for all of our picks this year and a future 2nd or something like that along as letting Francou go to the Suns. Would be such a godfather move, I would love it!