Mega Thread 2018 Trade Period Discussion part 2! (cont. in Part 3 - link in OP)

What are we going to do??

  • 4 picks 21 and under? Back in Hamish!

    Votes: 74 67.9%
  • Trade up! We’re getting Lukosius / Rankine / Rozee!!!

    Votes: 35 32.1%

  • Total voters
    109
  • Poll closed .

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The hogan deal
I actually think it'll happen .....if as we expect the Neale deal gets done

I'm not so sure May deal gets done ? .......If Gold Coast finish bottom next year, if May leaves, GC will have both picks #1 and #2 next year .....that's a powerful hand & every reason not to trade him this year
 

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Port have done very well - 5, 10, 15 Lycett and Burton in.

Only 2 genuine 1st 22 players out.

We shouldn't forget our hand of 8, 13, 16 and 21 cost Lever and McGovern too.
They haven't got 5, they not getting upgrades using Hombsch as only ;played mainly when had injuries . Port dont want him and nobody wants apart from GC and only if lose May. Look at the average players they have taken already before offering for him.
 
If we dont do any more trades, the swap of 4th rounders from gold coast yesterday will surely go down as one of the stranger deals we've ever made.

Were Richmond persuaded by 68, but not 73?
Or did we need an extra pick for a list spot ? ......only reason I can think off
 
Or did we need an extra pick for a list spot ? ......only reason I can think off
Don’t you just get as many picks as you need? Even if it’s a 7th rounder and pick 130
 
Don’t you just get as many picks as you need? Even if it’s a 7th rounder and pick 130
Yes, as many Draft Picks as list openings .....in the past we've gone short on the main list & maxed the Rookie list ......maybe this year, we're going to fill the list ?

But if it wasn't for an extra draft pick, what other reason?
 

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I have to say that I completely and totally disagree. We've brought in a couple of players who might be able to address some specific needs (McAdam, Stengle), and we've retained a strong draft hand for what pundits are rating as an excellent overall draft. Given the prospect of live draft pick trading, all in all AFC have done well so far. Busy doesn't necessarily mean productive.

Question:

Did you learn to type using your arse cheeks?

It's just that almost every post I've seen of yours is complete and utter bullshit :poo:

Are you one of those nuffies who expect the club to "win" trade week each year like it's some sort of novelty? Or do you actually understand clubs trade for needs and more often than not draft for talent?

It's almost as if the media will be crossing live to AFL house tomorrow night and declaring Sydney the 'Wooden Spooners' of the 2018 Trade Period, complete with Sydney's mascot standing atop the podium, forlorn, with Claude the Crow hunched over on the 2nd rung looking equally as dejected.




So we have the strongest hand of draft picks in supposedly the strongest draft in years, but we've failed because we haven't been able to go from having the strongest hand to having what? An even stronger hand than the strongest hand in the strongest draft? :drunk:

Or in the example you used, trading out players not critical to our structure - so please explain to me, of all the players we've traded for and drafted in recent years, who we haven't delisted already, which ones are not critical to our structure in some way moving forward? And just on that point, could you please explain to me in detail, what our structure looks like in 2019 onwards? You seem to know already.

You complain we aren't doing more to improve the already strongest draft hand possible, but bemoan the fact we haven't traded up... to ultimately have a weakened hand, in order to possibly nab potential generational local talent... yet in doing so forgoing four of the best 21 young players in the country otherwise.

Four - almost 20% of our matchday squad at some time in the future or conceivably as early as next year, rated as highly as any top 10 picks in any other draft to date. Let's put that into perspective: we've currently one player taken in the top 10 of any draft on our list, Gibbs. Two if you count Brad Crouch. Last year we didn't have Gibbs and made a GF. With not one player ever taken in the top 10 of any draft.

We then potentially add FOUR players to our list in one draft, who are rated as highly as any other top 10 picks in years gone by, and this in your eyes would be considered a massive fail?




"Paralysed with indecision"

I can't even.. I am not even going to go where I want to go with that; your eyes would bleed for months.

I'm feeling mildly generous tonight so I'll let that slide.

Did it ever occur to you that Reid and co. might have chosen to sit back, completely measured in our actions throughout the entire period, and wait for all the dominoes to fall - which let's be honest, haven't even looked like tipping yet?

Or perhaps we've been able to address the most gaping hole on our list - the small forward position - since the departure of Charlie Cameron left us virtually toothless in this area beyond an ageing Eddie Betts and first year rookie Lachlan Murphy, who was previously taken as a top up development player for our Reserves side...

We've taken McAdam and Stengle for literally next to nothing, both of whom Haggis instructed Reid to go after.

So do you not trust Hamish's judgement? Or do you not admire Reid's ability to obtain these players we saw as "critical to our structure" without giving away any "currency that was critical to our structure" ???

Or do you think our List Management team are fretting about the local BF moron Murray who's beating his chest, carrying on like a pork chop because he expected fireworks but no-one has so much as lit a match and time is running out :eek:




Again, could you please confirm what structure we're going with in 2019 and beyond?

Also, how do you know we haven't just added a vital cog or two to the structure we may be planning on using next year and beyond?




Were you dropped at birth? Have you been living under a rock?

Honest questions.

I'd better call the club and let em know ol' man Murray says "forget what you've been doing the last 20 years or so guys - you know, drafting and developing elite talent better than any club in the country has been able to anywhere near as consistently - we gotta stick to trading coz that's how we gon' get better!" :drunk:

"Leaving it up to chance" - well shit, let's just apply to the AFL for an exemption from ever drafting again. We'll just trade eternally until every player on our list is the ripe old age of 105 :drunk:

Outstanding
 
Yes, as many Draft Picks as list openings .....in the past we've gone short on the main list & maxed the Rookie list ......maybe this year, we're going to fill the list ?

But if it wasn't for an extra draft pick, what other reason?
No idea, I don’t get the dipping into next years picks.
 
Obviously Trade Radio have no news as to what's going to happen today ......clubs must be pretty tight, and there's so few club exec's involved ....there's no leaks

We'll have to wait to 10 am to get a feel .....but probably going to be a long day and things will happen after 4 pm
 
Caller to Trade Radio who apparently called the Scully to Hawthorn trade, says Tim O’Brien, 1st round & 2nd round pick for Wingard.
Would be have thought TOB would be a player of need.
 
I think losing McGovern combined with Cameron the previous year will exacerbate the slowness of our forward lines. Something needs to be done to fix this or we will struggle again in 2019.
Gallucci, Knight, and hopefully Mcadam can alleviate that but a rozee/rankine is definitely needed.
 
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