Mega Thread 2018 Trade Period Discussion part 2! (cont. in Part 3 - link in OP)

[Ozzie]

I think you will find those Brownlow medalist who were picked at 40 were father son selections back in the day when clubs only needed to give up a 3rd round pick for a father son prospect regardless of how good the kid was.

Too bad we were stopped by having any F/S during this period . Thanks to the draconian rules VFL House imposed on us.

 

[FR0GGY]

I think you will find those Brownlow medalist who were picked at 40 were father son selections back in the day when clubs only needed to give up a 3rd round pick for a father son prospect regardless of how good the kid was.

It was a joke

 

[weneverland]

No

Turns 31 at the start of the season. He’s a slow lumbering ruckman that can’t jump, the modern ruckman are jumping all over him.

Our season basically is dependant on him bouncing back, if he doesn’t we might as well forget it, opposition midfields will kill us.

No, you just need to teach your midfielders to rove to the opposing ruckman. Collingwood did it very well for years. What would be be really handy is someone that could take a contested mark around the ground.

 

[FR0GGY]

Because it's his 2nd year mandated draftee contract.

Same as what happened with Boyd. His first year at the Dogs was his 2nd year draftee deal.

So you can’t earn more as a 2nd year player? Is that to stop clubs poaching young draftees?

 

[FR0GGY]

Ablett and Watson were F/S back when it was a compulsory third rounder

Was a joke

 

[FR0GGY]

I wouldn't get too concerned. Both of those pick #40 winners were F/S selections, back in the days when all it cost was a 3rd round pick. We don't have any F/S selections this year.

Joke

 

[GROTTO]

Out of interest this is the last 10 years of Brownlow Medallists, the runners up, and their draft picks:

2018 - Mitchell (pick 21), Sidebottom (11)
2017 - Martin (3), Dangerfield (10)
2016 - Dangerfield (10), Parker (40)
2015 - Fyfe (20), Priddis (Rookie)
2014 - Priddis (rookie), Fyfe (20)
2013 - Ablett (40), Selwood (7)
2012 - Watson (40), Mitchell (36), Cotchin (2)
2011 - Swan (58), Mitchell (36)
2010 - Judd (3), Ablett (40)
2009 - Ablett (40), Judd (3)

And his years clubs best and fairest winners and their draft picks:

Laird (Rookie)
Zorko (23 year old zone selection)
Cripps (pick 13)
Sidebottom (11), Grundy (18)
Smith (14)
Neale (58)
Blicavs (Rookie)
Harbrow (Rookie)
Whitfield (1)
Mitchell (21)
Gawn (34)
Higgins (11)
Westhoff (71)
Riewoldt (13)
Steven (42)
Lloyd (Rookie)
Yeo (30)

What does this tell us? Well pick 40 and rookie picks seems good. Other than that, I don't really know, people can draw their own conclusions... just thought it would be interesting is all...

Thats a lot of effort in that post. Its brilliant though well done. Fascinating reading and goes to show that a good recruiter can do wonders with poor picks.

With that said, shouldnt Ablett and Watson be removed? Didnt they come under father-son rules? Mitchell too?

 

[Red mist]

Yeah but pick 40 is where you pick up the Ablett’s, Watson’s and Parker’s of the world.

Father/sons h

Joke

nah it wasn’t get busy broseph!

 

[FR0GGY]

Father/sons h

nah it wasn’t get busy broseph!

 

[Red mist]

Says video unavailable.

 

[FR0GGY]

Says video unavailable.

Simply Red - “If you don’t know me by now”

 

[Golumless]

Curnow plays on instinct

And Milera doesn't?

 

[Murray2503]

No, he will now be regarded as a superstar in Vic.

Brownlow medalist next year paddy style.

 

[Murray2503]

I'm sure there were a few Adelaide supporters were trying to paint Dangerfield as not a big loss. I know. I was one of them.

Was a major loss except in finals where his disposal is suspect.

 

[Red mist]

And Milera doesn't?

I’m not the one comparing

 

[Red mist]

Simply Red - “If you don’t know me by now”

Have you been able to grow a dreadlock ever?

 

[Golumless]

Was a major loss except in finals where his disposal is suspect.

I would say it was a much more major loss in finals, where someone of his class/quality could have been the difference in that grand final when we were in control of it (seeing we were all over Richmond in the first quarter, but wasted chance after chance).

Of course, that's ignoring that we misused Dangerfield and I have my doubts Campo could build a structure that allowed us to not being completely reliant on him.

 

[Golumless]

I’m not the one comparing

Seeing you're responding with that to someone else comparing him, you are actually comparing.

You've just picked a flawed comparison point.

 

[Red mist]

Seeing you're responding with that to someone else comparing him, you are actually comparing.

You've just picked a flawed comparison point.

That’s a bit loaded. Actually fully loaded.
Hi sense

 

[Cap]

I would say it was a much more major loss in finals, where someone of his class/quality could have been the difference in that grand final when we were in control of it (seeing we were all over Richmond in the first quarter, but wasted chance after chance).

Of course, that's ignoring that we misused Dangerfield and I have my doubts Campo could build a structure that allowed us to not being completely reliant on him.

His kicking was as suspect as anyones.

The best thing he would have brought would have been getting hands on ball.

 

[dylan123]

Hamish might still do a calculated call on draft night to weaken one of our opponents.

I don't see how that would be possible or why he'd look to try weaken our opponents when his only priority would be to get the best players possible for us in the draft.

 

[exit]

Have you been able to grow a dreadlock ever?

It's not hard. Living with them is another story, when they go past your knees they do become a hindrance.

 

[Red mist]

It's not hard. Living with them is another story, when they go past your knees they do become a hindrance.

When they are past your knees are you in the Wailers?

 

[exit]

When they are past your knees are you in the Wailers?

Metal ftw.

 

[Red mist]

Metal ftw.

Really I can see it put didn’t pick it straight up.