List Mgmt. 2019 Trade & Free Agency Thread V2

[wazza03]

A couple of days ago I felt really good about our chances of landing Dougal, but now I've heard he "doesn't mind" playing as a forward even though he prefers to play in defence coupled with Fantasia's probable move, I've now go the uneasy feeling we'll be trumped by the Dons...

We can’t let this happen and need to give him an offer that he can’t refuse so that he nominates us.
We have the cash and are in need of a young up and coming key defender like him.


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[Hearts to hearts]

We can’t let this happen and need to give him an offer that he can’t refuse so that he nominates us.
We have the cash and are in need of a young up and coming key defender like him.


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Really? We should bring out the Godfather routine for *checks notes* Dougal Howard?

Nice to have, but ok to miss too.

 

[Clarke is King]

Geelong reportedly wanting a top 10 pick. If Dougal is Dougaling his way to North do we trade 8 to Geelong for 14 and 24? Or would those pricks expect something else back with that? We then trade our pick 27 to PA and keep a first and second round pick.

 

[Mjs94]

We can’t let this happen and need to give him an offer that he can’t refuse so that he nominates us.
We have the cash and are in need of a young up and coming key defender like him.


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You don’t make an offer to a player that isn’t considered to be top 2 in his position at his current club.

Would be a nice get and would be best 22 for us but the fact that Port told him to go looking rather than saying yes we will play you in defence next year and beyond says a lot.


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[giantroo]

Geelong reportedly wanting a top 10 pick. If Dougal is Dougaling his way to North do we trade 8 to Geelong for 14 and 24? Or would those pricks expect something else back with that? We then trade our pick 27 to PA and keep a first and second round pick.

Geelong would want a later pick as well.

Pick 8 = 1551 points
Pick 14 and 24 = 1946

Deficit of 395 = pick 42.

 

[King Corey]

Geelong would want a later pick as well.

Pick 8 = 1551 points
Pick 14 and 24 = 1946

Deficit of 395 = pick 42.

We'd need to sweeten a deal they're already ahead on?

 

[Heaps of fun]

Geelong reportedly wanting a top 10 pick. If Dougal is Dougaling his way to North do we trade 8 to Geelong for 14 and 24? Or would those pricks expect something else back with that? We then trade our pick 27 to PA and keep a first and second round pick.

We could still snare a really good player with 9, Ash, Young, Stephens, Kemp, Flanders, any of them can potentially be there. By 14 odd all of those guys will definitely be gone and it'll be more of a raffle for an elite talent.

Would be better to have more top picks but as it stands we have very little currency to trade on. Wouldn't mind trading a future first for a similar deal though.

Worst case scenario we keep to our current plan which has been taking a top 10 talent like Jy (should have gone top 10), LDU & TT and then backing in our late pick drafting to add the next Larkey, Zurhaar, Hosie, Xerri (bullish on those last two) etc.

 

[wazza03]

You don’t make an offer to a player that isn’t considered to be top 2 in his position at his current club.

Would be a nice get and would be best 22 for us but the fact that Port told him to go looking rather than saying yes we will play you in defence next year and beyond says a lot.


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Says more about Port’s list management and culture than us throwing money at a KPD with huge upside.


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[Groin guru]

Yeah I don't think the point system is valid in those situations. Maybe for academy/father-sons but 8 for 14 and 24 isn't enough in my opinion.

A top 10 pick vs. 2 sliders. No thanks.

Maybe if it was 8 and 47 for 14,24, and 33.

 

[Groin guru]

Would be better to have more top picks but as it stands we have very little currency to trade on. Wouldn't mind trading a future first for a similar deal though.

100%

That's what I want to see more than anything. Next year will be a shit show. Get more this year and get an extra year into the youth.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

No point trading down unless we have a purpose for the later picks, or just don't rate the top ten enough.

 

[big_e]

Dougal Howard is a fringe development player. The mind boggles as to why anyone is working themselves in to a state over him.

It's a case of just get someone, anyone. Bizarre stuff.

Agree with the first part but not the last. The club has identified a need - KPD, presumably having been caught short by Scooter's retirement earlier than expected - and are chasing someone who might fill that hole. And given our options seem to be either a 50-game, 23 year old or drafting an 18 year old who may not be ready for three to four years, it's not hard to work out why we're asking the question.

 

[giantroo]

We'd need to sweeten a deal they're already ahead on?

Possibly. You know how the AFL are.

 

[Mjs94]

Says more about Port’s list management and culture than us throwing money at a KPD with huge upside.


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It probably does, but it doesn’t mean that we should be throwing money at him. Our offer is probably better than what Port or * are offering, but to make an “offer he can’t refuse”(which is what? 600k plus?) is reckless.


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[Kangaroos4eva]

McClure is ruining the reputation that his father provided him with.

 

[Pykie]

Geelong would want a later pick as well.

Pick 8 = 1551 points
Pick 14 and 24 = 1946

Deficit of 395 = pick 42.

Nah,

Industry is working off a 20% deficit in the way of the selling club when trying to move up the draft order, especially upgrading into the top 10 with pick swaps. If clubs want to upgrade they have to pay for it and incentivise the selling club.

Pick 8 = 1551 points
Pick 14 and 24 = 1946 * 80% = 1556.

So that scenario is almost bang on.

 

[Sillygit]

and Orazio was calling BS at one point, and Beams wasn't leaving Brisbane

 

[giantroo]

Home, sweet home: Kelly finally an Eagle after mega-trade with Cats - http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-10-09/home-sweet-home-kelly-finally-an-eagle-after-megatrade-with-cats

 

[giantroo]

Tim Kelly is an Eagle! The midfielder has joined West Coast from Geelong

The Cats receive picks 14, 24 and 37 (2019 draft) & a first-round (2020 draft) selection

The Eagles get Kelly, pick 57 (2019 draft) & a third-round selection (2020 draft)

 

[buttox]

West Coast gives up picks 14, 27 and 37, plus 2020 first-round pick, to get Tim Kelly.

Eagles receive pick 57 this year and Geelong's 3rd-round pick in 2020 back.

seems pretty fair.
wont be any top 10 picks

 

[kool kangas]

Geelong reportedly wanting a top 10 pick. If Dougal is Dougaling his way to North do we trade 8 to Geelong for 14 and 24? Or would those pricks expect something else back with that? We then trade our pick 27 to PA and keep a first and second round pick.

Its not so much as having a first round pick but where it is in relation to getting a better player. keep #8 and tell geelong to look somewhere else for a higher pick.

 

[GarnerSmash]

I wonder if we backended it?

He and his manager certainly backended us.

 

[Pykie]

That's an unbelievable deal for Geelong under the circumstances.

WC have essentially coughed up pick 1 + a late pick from a points perspective for an uncontracted player who nominated a single club.

 

[giantroo]

"Tim (Kelly) has signed a 6-year deal with the West Coast Eagles"

- Anthony Van Der Wielen

#AFLTrade

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Tim Kelly is an Eagle! The midfielder has joined West Coast from Geelong

The Cats receive picks 14, 24 and 37 (2019 draft) & a first-round (2020 draft) selection

The Eagles get Kelly, pick 57 (2019 draft) & a third-round selection (2020 draft)

Leigh Colbert-esque deal.