List Mgmt. 2020 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals

[wilsonmatic]

Ben Brown

50

Ben Brown

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

2.2

5star

D

7.9

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.6

1star

M

3.7

4star

T

0.9

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

fan club in here will be disappointed he wants to go to Melbourne.

 

[FreeAgent1]

Ben Brown

50

Ben Brown

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

2.2

5star

D

7.9

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.6

1star

M

3.7

4star

T

0.9

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

fan club in here will be disappointed he wants to go to Melbourne.

Terrible for fwd pressure. Happy we didnt sink money into him.

 

[dosser]

GWS - Riccardo Himmelberg Finlayson Hogan
Swans - Buddy

Not sure what you are saying here?
Riccardi was drafted by GWS
Himmelberg and Finlayson are from their academy
Hogan has been moved on from a couple of clubs already.
Vs Buddy who has been a champion for us.

 

[sataris]

Please bring in Mason Cox

46

Mason Cox

Age

33

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

.

Cheaper than Hickey and will be able to provide the same quality of work.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Please bring in Mason Cox

46

Mason Cox

Age

33

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

.

Cheaper than Hickey and will be able to provide the same quality of work.

He is on to much money i think.

 

[sataris]

He is on to much money i think.

He's out of contract afaik & anything we offer will be above the $0 that Collingwood will be offering.

 

[Millky95]

Campbell, Goulden, a late 4th or 5th round pick. Maybe a DFA depending on list sizes. Only trading out for picks.

Called it ages ago

 

[BloodySwan]

Last 2 drafts we've picked up

Blakey, McInerny, Rowbottom. Foot, Warner, Stephens

No harm in backing our recruitment team

 

[RUNVS]

Last 2 drafts we've picked up

Blakey, McInerny, Rowbottom. Foot, Warner, Stephens

No harm in backing our recruitment team

Agreed. That is a good group. I love McInerney and Rowbottom especially, and I suspect Stephens will turn out to be a good selection. Warner and Foot are still up in the air but they could turn out to be great choices too.

 

[CowFos]

Last 2 drafts we've picked up

Blakey, McInerny, Rowbottom. Foot, Warner, Stephens

No harm in backing our recruitment team

Gould as well

 

[tombomb]

Please bring in Mason Cox

46

Mason Cox

Age

33

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

.

Cheaper than Hickey and will be able to provide the same quality of work.

I think Hickey is a significantly better ruckman than Cox. They are completely different players. One is a ruckman, one is a key forward.

 

[WillHayward]

Not sure what you are saying here?
Riccardi was drafted by GWS
Himmelberg and Finlayson are from their academy
Hogan has been moved on from a couple of clubs already.
Vs Buddy who has been a champion for us.

Riccardi was pick 51. Totally gettable.

Buddy 34 and injured.

Im saying we dont have any young key fwd prospects.

Glaring hole.

Are our recruiters alseep at the wheel?

 

[RUNVS]

Riccardi was pick 51. Totally gettable.

Buddy 34 and injured.

Im saying we dont have any young key fwd prospects.

Glaring hole.

McCartin and Blakey.

 

[tombomb]

In a way, I kind of understand what Collingwood is doing.

They are desperate to get off Treloar's contract, but they can only do it if he asks to be traded.

When he does agree to be traded, it will be interesting to see if a club is dumb enough to give Collingwood anything of value for a negative asset.

 

[WillHayward]

McCartin and Blakey.

Mccartin better back.
Blakey better on a wing.

 

[Olian]

McCartin and Blakey.

Neither are key forwards. McCartin has looked better down back and Blakey on the wing.

 

[tombomb]

Gardiner.

Not going to be active participants in this trade period.
We are looking for improvement within the club.
Talking to a few clubs about potential rucks.
Allir Allir he is contracted talks with Port were very brief.

It didn't sound to me like they completely put a line through the Aliir thing.

 

[tombomb]

Not sure how you can be happy with the list atm and just want internal improvement to get you from 2nd worst percentage and 3rd bottom

I don't think anyone is saying they are happy with the list.

Sometimes there just isn't the value there or you can't convince players to come.

Should we just go and make trades for the sake of it? Trade pick 3 for Crouch or Treloar's toxic contract.

I dont think if we are quiet again it means anything about what we think about the list.

 

[BloodySwan]

Gould as well

He hasn't debuted

 

[tombomb]

List management strategy is poor imo

What part is poor?

We are clearly playing the long game, but it is the right strategy if you want to have a period of sustained success.

 

[CowFos]

He hasn't debuted

True but I think he’s a better prospect than at least Foot or Warner, deserves to be in that group of good talent brought in the last couple of seasons

 

[swanton]

Campbell, Goulden, a late 4th or 5th round pick. Maybe a DFA depending on list sizes. Only trading out for picks.

Called it ages ago

You forgot pick 3

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

What part is poor?

We are clearly playing the long game, but it is the right strategy if you want to have a period of sustained success.

It is if we can keep the list together.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

At least Charlie Gardner dispelled the rumours that Buddy did a hammy putting his bins out.

 

[ashep]

What part is poor?

We are clearly playing the long game, but it is the right strategy if you want to have a period of sustained success.

Playing the long game means resigning ourself to wasting the end of Buddy and JPK's careers, and the end of the prime of players like Parker, Rampe, and Lloyd for the promise of the next crop.

Sure, Heeney, Mills, Rowbottom et al might turn into a premiership core, but we've still got some pretty bloody good players on our list who now may not play another meaningful game in Swans colours.

At the same time, we've let best 22 players like Jones, Rohan, Hanners and Nankervis leave the club only to watch them play September footy whilst bringing in depth players like Taylor and Thurlow. And who's to say it stops there? Papley wanted out. What do we do if Hewett or Dawson want to leave next season?

Sure, playing the long game is a sound strategy, but you're gambling of a bunch of promising unknowns reaching the level of senior players on the list right now, if they even stick around at all.