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There you go... no substance behind what you're saying...
Why don't you compile a list of who he should've drafted with those late picks and rookie selections...
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There you go... no substance behind what you're saying...
Why don't you compile a list of who he should've drafted with those late picks and rookie selections...
If he did an average job, then how is he terrible?
CashCow3053
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Thats too easy!!!
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Ok so go ahead...
While you're at it, tell me who is the best list manager in the league over the past 5 years.
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If the poster is a private school boy conspiracy theorist they are a goose, for people who look simply at who we recruited and if they were any good, a list of hits and misses is all you need.
Of course it’s easy, that’s how you judge, by looking back and of course you don’t get them all right and everyone is able to sit back , judge and decide if they see a pattern.
This is where my frustration lies with SOS’s time at the club, I agree the players he delisted had proved or had mostly proved they weren’t working for Carlton, I think he made a mistake on Holman but as you said, you don’t get everything right. My issue is bringing in players that he would have or should have known were not up to it, instead of giving the state leagues and the rookie draft the time of day.
Players like Sumner, Phillips (who was so injury prone at the Giants and us), Gorringe, Smedts, Picket, Bugg, Palmer, Shaw, Mullett, Fasolo, O”Shea, Lobbe and Silvagni, they had all proved what they were and it’s my opinion SOS has a weak spot for players who were highly talented youngsters who failed to deliver on their talent.
We have seen over a few years now that there is players in the state leagues who are good and are desperate for a chance who would have been a lot better for us given the chance.
No I don’t think so, I agree with you, my point is not who SOS got rid of, but who he brought in, my point is, there is just too many misses to be bad luck, to me it was poor recruiting and a poor strategy. You said every recruiter would be similiar, I don’t think that’s true, I’m not going to go through the records but I’d be pretty surprised if you found any recruiter in the same period as SOS had a list as large as his of players that were busts or had already been delisted.
CashCow3053
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fair enough, below average job as we have been a well below average team for since 2015 ... I hope this list manager / recruiter can make moves
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I know Macreadie has had injuries but who steps up to play defence for us if Weitering or Jones gets injured.............hang onto him I would say, unless he is completely lame as far as his injuries go...........
Levi, Mitch McGovern and probably a heap of DFA available that are superior to Macreadie.
Do you know how rebuilds work?
CashCow3053
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We are a below average team because our recruiting and list management was below average... The list strategy largely hasn't worked. hopefully, this recruiter / LM will get us some players.
CashCow3053
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rebuild is a footy cliche slogan designed to lower the fans / members expectations and give them hope that the team will succeed .... SOS declared a 5 year rebuild at the beginning of season 2015 to finish 11th on the ladder in 2020 ...
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Still waiting for you to tell me who he should've drafted with all those late picks and rookie selections...
Oh and for you to tell me who the best list manager over the past 5 years is...
CashCow3053
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2015 we selected J.G McCASKER 1st pick in the rookie draft... Never played a game. Some Rookies that were selected in that draft
- Tom Papley
- Darcy McPherson
- M.Choi
- Dan Houston
- Hugh Greenwood
- Kane Mitchell
- Alex Keith
- Jack Graham (we went after him this year)
- Ed Phillips (played great footy this year)
2016 we selected Cam Polson pick 59
we could have selected
- Q. Narkle
2016 we selected P. Kerr pick 65
we could have selected
- Luke Ryan
- Nick Larkey
we could have selected
- Tyson Stengle
- Peter Ladhams
- Cam Zurhaar
- Jack Henry
- Ronke
- Robbie Fox (played excellent footy for sydney this year)
- Oscar McInerny
2016 rookie selection Andrew Galucci, we could have selected
- Jarrod Lienert
- James Cousins (depth player, not the best but playing games unlike Galucci)
- Sam Simpson (played some decent games for Geelong this year
I can go on if you want... 100% SOS was a below average recruiter
Hindsight drafting is my favourite thing ever
Respectfully, are you posting with the advantage of a banned word in this thread (starts with 'H')?
Elmer_Hauser
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So Happy Fisher has re-signed, one of my favourites. Very happy news
Fisher signs two-year extension
Zac Fisher has inked a contract extension, committing his future to Carlton.
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From the Rookie draft no less
Jimmae
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Granted there are 12 clubs still to really roll through their lists when it comes to DFAs, but so far, you're looking at a speculative call on Durdin or Daw.
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just proving that SOS was a below average recruiter ...
Surprised you didn’t get the job when he left.
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He wouldn’t need the money judging by the handle.
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Yes.. please do if you don't mind.. I want every pick until SOS left...
Ouch painful revelations that can’t be denied.
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