List Mgmt. 2020 List Management II

[BigFrizz36]

Don’t get why everyone is so down on Oscar Mc, he was very good in 2018 when dees had there best year and he’s been pushed out by May who is one of the best defenders in the comp. McDonald would be a huge upgrade on any of the KPD we have lost this off season and he’s only 24. I’d take him every day of the week this year, particularly as we need to play finals and seasoned bodies will be important in this push.

Not sure he was that good. Finished 12th in their best & f that year. Fair enough that his job would be to play 2's and be ready if Jones, Weiters or Levi were injured. There would be melts galore if he regularly had to play seniors.

 

[BigBreakfast]

Could only have played in a flag at Geelong as Saints can’t win them... but I can’t find any players in the cats 07, 09, 11 premiership teams that played for us.
Can’t think of any either...

Sorry all, not Saints, meant Sydney... oops.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Sorry all, not Saints, meant Sydney... oops.

Laidler

 

[BigBreakfast]

Laidler

Just got it too. Cheers.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Ben McKay

32

Ben Mckay

Age

27

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

wasn’t/isn’t coming to sit behind Jones until 2023. He’d be on overs at North and will be a key pillar of their backline.

Sam De Koning fits that transition better if we are looking at the brothers. I can’t imagine him coming cheap though.

 

[F_therest]

Fk interchange rotations are now cut to 75 in 2021, down from 90.

Been having discussions in this thread today about the importance of endurance...well it just became even more important.
Stack your team full of good runners and you can grind down less fit teams and pretty much win games just from abusing that advantage. If we're one of the teams carrying unfit players especially in the midfield, I don't think we'll do well.

Makes it paramount we make running power a key trait in our new recruits since the lawmakers keep wanting to reduce the interchange rotations to intentially create fatigue and more open play. It plays into the hands of the Richmond model where a team full of strong runners has been a big key to their 3 premierships.

 

[BigBreakfast]

Ben McKay

32

Ben Mckay

Age

27

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

wasn’t/isn’t coming to sit behind Jones until 2023. He’d be on overs at North and will be a key pillar of their backline.

Sam De Koning fits that transition better if we are looking at the brothers. I can’t imagine him coming cheap though.

Ben is not coming, why would he? He’ll be a first selected defender each week and get good coin. We offer him, a bench spot at best, a few games if others are injured more realistically and a regular game in the 2s.

Draft one or pick up a DFA for backline depth. Club will know who. I don’t think they delist McCreadie without a plan.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Ben is not coming, why would he? He’ll be a first selected defender each week and get good coin. We offer him, a bench spot at best, a few games if others are injured more realistically and a regular game in the 2s.

Draft one or pick up a DFA for backline depth. Club will know who. I don’t think they delist McCreadie without a plan.

It has to be Oscar McDonald

21

Oscar Mcdonald

Age

28

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

191.4

3star

D

11.3

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.7

3star

MG

157.7

3star

D

14.8

4star

K

5.4

2star

HB

9.4

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.4

3star

MG

138.4

3star

unless Austin has identified a mature body in the state leagues. Don’t think we’d take the punt on Daw.

 

[Coona Blues]

It has to be Oscar McDonald

21

Oscar Mcdonald

Age

28

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

191.4

3star

D

11.3

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.7

3star

MG

157.7

3star

D

14.8

4star

K

5.4

2star

HB

9.4

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.4

3star

MG

138.4

3star

unless Austin has identified a mature body in the state leagues. Don’t think we’d take the punt on Daw.

Saw one FB group a week or so ago with two posters claiming itk that Ben Silvagni would be rookied. Not claiming any truth, but wondering how this would be received with all of the water under the bridge?

 

[Jimmyonesix]

I'm not sure where HARKER got Arr0w saying it'll come down to Fogarty Vs Gibbons.

Arr0w didn't question Fogarty's selection, if it eventuates.

He just stated that Gibbons would be selected, if healthy.

The only way Arr0w loses a bet is if Gibbons isn't selected and Fogarty is.

If both are selected then Arr0w is right in what he said - Gibbons was selected.

I can see a clear path where both are selected and for very different roles.

Kemp won't take gibbons role -- gibbons role won't keep kemp out of the side ..100% agree .. neither might play fit or not -- but not because one is keeping the other out ..

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Saw one FB group a week or so ago with two posters claiming itk that Ben Silvagni would be rookied. Not claiming any truth, but wondering how this would be received with all of the water under the bridge?

Wouldn’t be comfortable going into a season with BSOS next in line. Was still very raw even more so than Macreadie.

If we think he’s still worth persisting with I’d hope we’d see past the name anyway.

 

[Juddrockz]

Sorry all, not Saints, meant Sydney... oops.

Laidler.

 

[Wickzki]

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I knew it was Matt Korcheck but I went to google image search and it told me it was this:

 

[Jeremias]

If we had any intention to keep BSOS around next year, I reckon we would have announced it at the time of his delisting. As we did with Kennedy today.

I'd say he's done.

 

[Wickzki]

If we had any intention to keep BSOS around next year, I reckon we would have announced it at the time of his delisting. As we did with Kennedy today.

I'd say he's done.

Good, thoughtful, call.

However, perhaps there is consideration for him to be in the VFL team and not Carlton-listed.

 

[Jimmyonesix]

Wouldn’t be comfortable going into a season with BSOS next in line. Was still very raw even more so than Macreadie.

If we think he’s still worth persisting with I’d hope we’d see past the name anyway.

Casboult is next in line .. play McKay silvagni mcgovern Or de koning forward .. lots of possibilities

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Ben is not coming, why would he? He’ll be a first selected defender each week and get good coin. We offer him, a bench spot at best, a few games if others are injured more realistically and a regular game in the 2s.

Draft one or pick up a DFA for backline depth. Club will know who. I don’t think they delist McCreadie without a plan.

Or he simply replaces Jones immediately?

 

[Jeremias]

Or he simply replaces Jones immediately?

That won't be happening unless Jones falls off a cliff in 2021, which is probably unlikely.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Casboult is next in line .. play McKay silvagni mcgovern Or de koning forward .. lots of possibilities

Casboult is our CHF at this stage. We need two of him.

 

[BigBreakfast]

Or he simply replaces Jones immediately?

No chance, not even close, no way.

 

[FRUMPY]

Fk interchange rotations are now cut to 75 in 2021, down from 90.

Been having discussions in this thread today about the importance of endurance...well it just became even more important.
Stack your team full of good runners and you can grind down less fit teams and pretty much win games just from abusing that advantage. If we're one of the teams carrying unfit players especially in the midfield, I don't think we'll do well.

Makes it paramount we make running power a key trait in our new recruits since the lawmakers keep wanting to reduce the interchange rotations to intentially create fatigue and more open play. It plays into the hands of the Richmond model where a team full of strong runners has been a big key to their 3 premierships.

Just means fwds and backs won't need to be interchanged as often, some won't be. Good to see fwds who kick a goal not run off the ground because 'InTErChAnGE'

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[BigBreakfast]

Just means fwds and backs won't need to be interchanged as often, some won't be. Good to see fwds who kick a goal not run off the ground because 'InTErChAnGE'

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I hate the run off the ground after a goal thing. Any chance the player might be pumped up and do more good things, or even kick another goal ffs.

 

[The Bighouse]

Don’t get why everyone is so down on Oscar Mc, he was very good in 2018 when dees had there best year and he’s been pushed out by May who is one of the best defenders in the comp. McDonald would be a huge upgrade on any of the KPD we have lost this off season and he’s only 24. I’d take him every day of the week this year, particularly as we need to play finals and seasoned bodies will be important in this push.

Wasn’t one of his biggest knocks his kicking, and a penchant to kick to the oppo?

 

[Jimmyonesix]

Casboult is our CHF at this stage. We need two of him.

We will play two ruck one tall forward (Mackay ) and mcgovern and silvagni if cas is to go back -- cas and Harry don't work well together anyway might be a blessing

 

[thylacine60]

That won't be happening unless Jones falls off a cliff in 2021, which is probably unlikely unless he goes bushwalking with Charlie.