2020 US Presidential Nominees

[Chief]

Amy Klobuchar was more popular than Harris and seemingly a better politician.

But she didn't have the extra spice of Warren's native American claims of heritage or the skin colour of Harris.

Racism swinging back the other way doesn't make it ok, it sends the problem down the line.

They would go with whoever polled the best. Whoever could raise the most money.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

ay least now we know who will be the president in Feb nezt year. Shame Democrats are too gutless to own up to it and are pretending dementia Joe will last more than a couple of months. Even sadder that neither party has a suitable candiate at the head of their ticket.

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Reagan was senile during his second term, yet people seemed to love his administration.

 

[darrenmorgan]

Minor irritation compared to Joe/Kamala's sockpuppet (Sanders) economic plan, defund the police, cashless parole, open borders and kowtow to China ticket.

I think you could use a lie down, buddy. It’s been a big day, I know

 

[SM]

And I was just suggesting that just because someone gets offended by something doesn't mean it matters

You don't get to decide what does or doesn't offend someone or what crosses from 'banter' to discrimination.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Amy Klobuchar was more popular than Harris and seemingly a better politician.

Debatable. She may have high approval ratings but is also known for mistreating her staff.

 

[Taylor]

Debatable. She may have high approval ratings but is also known for mistreating her staff.

Good point. If there is one thing we know for sure about Kamala Harris it's that she gets on very well with her colleagues, especially her boss.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

You don't get to decide what does or doesn't offend someone or what crosses from 'banter' to discrimination.

No shit!!

What I'm saying is that just because someone called something racist doesn't mean it is so. You said I had no idea about Trump's racism, well actually 99.9% of what the left calls racist isn't racist and that was my point

 

[SM]

No sh*t!!

What I'm saying is that just because someone called something racist doesn't mean it is so. You said I had no idea about Trump's racism, well actually 99.9% of what the left calls racist isn't racist and that was my point

Isn't racist in your opinion, which you still aren't understanding. Trump has said a shit ton of racist, bigoted, homophobic, sexist, etc. things, whether you accept it or not.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Isn't racist in your opinion, which you still aren't understanding. Trump has said a sh*t ton of racist, bigoted, homophobic, sexist, etc. things, whether you accept it or not.

Well actually, you're wrong and I'm right

 

[SM]

Well actually, you're wrong and I'm right

What are you, 12?

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

What are you, 12?

You played yourself kid!

 

[Balls In]

Stop embarrassing yourself and go read up on the things you try to pretend you know anything about.

The notion that Harris will support defunding the police is laughable.

Kamala will support whatever the democrat establishment tell her to .

 

[GreyCrow]

Trump has employed, women and minorities all his life, so there's evidence he would do so.

Only because he wanted to grab em by the pussy

 

[SM]

Kamala will support wherever the democrat establishment tell her to .

So why are you lot wetting your pants about her being the VP if it doesn't matter?

 

[Balls In]

So why are you lot wetting your pants about her being the VP if it doesn't matter?

What are you talking about doesn't matter? Joe Biden is senile and will get switched out 5 minutes after the election leaving this woman who 98% of democrats wouldn't even vote for.

 

[SM]

What are you talking about doesn't matter? Joe Biden is senile and will get switched out 5 minutes after the election leaving this woman who 98% of democrats wouldn't even vote for.

So who cares if she becomes President if she'll just do what the Dems want?

 

[Ants]

The evidence is exactly the same as the evidence used to not label everyone at the BLM riots as left wing domestic terrorists.

Um, no. I explained the differences above. But keep on with your false equivalences, rather than refuting any of my points. Maybe because you can't?

You do understand that "Black Lives Matter" doesn't mean white lives don't matter, right? Just like pro-white advocacy doesn't mean white supremacy.

This is the entire point of why some people feel the need to say it's okay to be white, because there is a significant movement against it.

Mate, yes those pro-white groups does mean white supremacy. Everyone on their speaking list was. You know, the ones who'd organised previous rallies with such fun sing alongs such as "blood and soil".

Funnily enough there is a strong movement against whites who want to lynch black people, kill jews, and enforce segregation. Funny that. But they're the victims.

Here is a suggestion, look up the term "dog whistle". The only people who say its "ok to be white" is those on the right as a dog whistle. Those of us on the left know that of course its fine to be white. Only idiots don't, or those setting up strawmen....

People shouldn't be pulled into Taylor's claims about Harris being a sexist appointment. It's just another one in the raft of baseless accusations that right wingers are currently throwing trying to get something to stick.

The VP selection always has three criteria, (1) do no harm, (2) improve the nominee's chances and (3) have the right credentials. The third is often the least important, just look at Palin's selection. Criteria (1) and (2) are used to narrow the pool, and frequently reduce the candidates to specific groups. This might be a woman, a man, a set of particular states, a religion, etc.

In this case it's been rumoured since before the SC primary that Biden had done a deal with Clyburn for his running mate to be African American for his endorsement. Choosing a black woman strengthens Biden's position with a large segment of his base who will be more enthused by the candidacy. This isn't a sexist or racist decision, it is cold hard politics. Solidifying his base and increasing their enthusiasm.

Taylor suggesting otherwise is just mud wracking. You didn't hear Republicans criticise Hillary for choosing Kaine, despite everyone knowing she was going to choose a man.

That you're so worried about people seeing through the Democrat pandering is very telling.

That you can't refute any points in my posts, but either set up false equivalences, attack the poster, or dog whistle, is pretty telling. I laid out the criteria that was used to select every VP for years, but you prefer your "sexism/racisms" narrative. I get that, you're a partisan hack.

 

[Ants]

Maybe... but I have a feeling her record as a prosecutor is going to come under some scrutiny:

What Kamala Harris believes: Key issues, policy positions and votes

Inside the Democratic vice presidential pick's record on health care, immigration and more.

www.politico.com

There are different view points on that. The below, describing Harris as a progressive DA, was written by Niki Solis. Niki Solis is a public defender from San Fran and a Chair of the Public Defenders' Office Racial Justice Committee had to say on Harris being a progressive DA. She might know a bit about what Harris did or didn't do.

Public defender: I worked with Kamala Harris. She was the most progressive DA in California.

I grappled with this idea of defending a former prosecutor for a long time, but I have to say what I feel is right to set the record straight on Harris.

www.usatoday.com

That's why it's awkward for her!

Not really. That you believed Reade didn't mean you disbelieve Biden. Harris is a prosecutor, she should be totally able to understand the idea that you believe both parties until further evidence comes along. Especially over something so long ago.

 

[SM]

Um, no. I explained the differences above. But keep on with your false equivalences, rather than refuting any of my points. Maybe because you can't?

Mate, yes those pro-white groups does mean white supremacy. Everyone on their speaking list was. You know, the ones who'd organised previous rallies with such fun sing alongs such as "blood and soil".

Funnily enough there is a strong movement against whites who want to lynch black people, kill jews, and enforce segregation. Funny that. But they're the victims.

Here is a suggestion, look up the term "dog whistle". The only people who say its "ok to be white" is those on the right as a dog whistle. Those of us on the left know that of course its fine to be white. Only idiots don't, or those setting up strawmen....


That you can't refute any points in my posts, but either set up false equivalences, attack the poster, or dog whistle, is pretty telling. I laid out the criteria that was used to select every VP for years, but you prefer your "sexism/racisms" narrative. I get that, you're a partisan hack.

Honestly wonder if Taylor wakes up every morning, looks in the mirror, and hates the fact that she's a woman.

 

[Balls In]

So who cares if she becomes President if she'll just do what the Dems want?

WTF?

 

[Brad Goodman]

Oh yeah, nah I don't know much about them just watched the video that's all. What was the question again?

This sentence could have come from Don himself.

 

[Ants]

What are you talking about doesn't matter? Joe Biden is senile and will get switched out 5 minutes after the election leaving this woman who 98% of democrats wouldn't even vote for.

You still haven't provided anything to back this up these claims mate. It must be demoralizing when you have to keep repeating the same lies, despite others providing evidence against, because your candidate is just sooo weak.

Or is that your intellectual level and you can't rise above it?

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

This sentence could have come from Don himself.

But the sad interpretation of it could only come from someone on the left!

To be fair it's hard to pick up on sarcasm online

 

[Balls In]

You still haven't provided anything to back this up these claims mate. It must be demoralizing when you have to keep repeating the same lies, despite others providing evidence against, because your candidate is just sooo weak.

Or is that your intellectual level and you can't rise above it?

C'moon maaan. I just happen to agree with the 50% of Americans who think he has dementia.

 

[Taylor]

Um, no. I explained the differences above. But keep on with your false equivalences, rather than refuting any of my points. Maybe because you can't?

Mate, yes those pro-white groups does mean white supremacy. Everyone on their speaking list was. You know, the ones who'd organised previous rallies with such fun sing alongs such as "blood and soil".

Funnily enough there is a strong movement against whites who want to lynch black people, kill jews, and enforce segregation. Funny that. But they're the victims.

Here is a suggestion, look up the term "dog whistle". The only people who say its "ok to be white" is those on the right as a dog whistle. Those of us on the left know that of course its fine to be white. Only idiots don't, or those setting up strawmen....


That you can't refute any points in my posts, but either set up false equivalences, attack the poster, or dog whistle, is pretty telling. I laid out the criteria that was used to select every VP for years, but you prefer your "sexism/racisms" narrative. I get that, you're a partisan hack.

You are the one who started with the false equivalences when you suggested every single person there was a white supremacist because of people organising it fitting your description of that. Some people attributed value to the statue of a figure of their history and wanted to defend that value they assigned it. That doesn't make them evil, doesn't make them white supremacists or nazis.

That isn't the case. Just as the people attending the BLM protests aren't all on board with their message.

You're using so many buzz words to go after me, yet the big point is still that Biden and the Democrats thought that the American people would be duped into feeling good about themselves voting for a black woman - and you're showing it to the be true.

Choosing or excluding anyone on the basis of race or gender is racism and sexism.

You and everyone else is not a combination of attributes you were born with. You are a character with values that happens to have things you were born with. Judging someone by the content of their character and not the colour of their skin used to be an aspiration and it's a shame that right wing/conservative people doing such as made out as the villains.