2020 US Presidential Nominees

[Maggie5]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/22/us/politics/amy-klobuchar-staff.html

And there are others, from eg Vanity Fair and the Daily Mashup

What a joke.

Think I will just listen and see what their policies are before making my mind and won't let things like utensils influence my decision.

Besides if Trump can be President - I doubt anyone could come close to him for (insert one of a thousand things in here).

 

[FredLeDeux]

Klobuchar is a terrible candidate.

I wouldn't know, I was only citing this as an example of the long rocky road ahead when the 50 or 60 candidates start planting stories on each other.

 

[Showbags]

The "I want to speak to the manager" part of Democrat base is positive that Bernie is a Russian agent and I might move to the US to watch the meltdown live if he wins the nomination.

It was a shock when Trump won but you had the distinct feeling that he wasn't really interested in actually shaking up the political system. He just tapped into the public anger towards politics and used it to his advantage.

If Sanders becomes POTUS though you get the feeling he will genuinely try to shake everything up as he has a long track record in politics of doing just that.

The squealing from the vested interests will be great to watch.

I find it pretty interesting that Trump doesn't ever really go for the throat of Sanders like he does others. I get the feeling it's because he knows there are a fair portion of potential cross over voters between himself and Bernie. He also either doesn't rate Bernie as a chance to win the Democratic nomination, and therefore feels comfortable building up Bernie so he will do damage to the eventual nominee OR he genuinely sees Bernie as his biggest threat and achilles heel and doesn't want to build up Bernie's profile amongst Dem voters (who hate Trump).

 

[pjcrows]

Jesus H Christ. Trump's gonna win again.

 

[Maggie5]

Field will be huge by 2020. Another DNC possible candidate, Pete Buttigieg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Buttigieg

 

[pjcrows]

Field will be huge by 2020. Another DNC possible candidate, Pete Buttigieg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Buttigieg

He makes a good case that the electoral college should be abolished, but as yet has nothing to say on Medicare For All, minimum wage, Green New Deal, foreign policy.

 

[Maggie5]

He makes a good case that the electoral college should be abolished, but as yet has nothing to say on Medicare For All, minimum wage, Green New Deal, foreign policy.

Not sure that he will get anywhere with his bid, but DNC looks like they will have a good field for 2024.

 

[pjcrows]

First New Hasmpshire poll for the year

Sanders 27
Biden 21
Harris 12
Warren 9
Klobuchar 8

Sanders v Trump
Sanders 55
Trump 45

Sanders v Trump v Schulz
Sanders 48
Trump 42
Schulz 10

 

[GreyCrow]

2020 Democratic Presidential Primaries

Link

On December 20, 2018, Tom Perez, the chairman for the Democratic National Committee, announced the preliminary schedule for a series of official debates, set to begin in June 2019.[178] Qualifications were announced on February 14, 2019, which included reaching one percent support in three reputable polls or by meeting a fundraising threshold, in which a candidate must receive donations from 65,000 unique donors, with at least 200 unique donors per state in a minimum of 20 states.[179]

Debates every month starting June 2019

2020 Caucus and Primary Schedule

• February 3: Iowa caucus[196]
• February 11: New Hampshire primary[196]
• February 22: Nevada caucus[196]
• February 29: South Carolina primary[196]
• March 3: Super Tuesday (Alabama, California, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, and Virginia primaries)[196]
• March 7: Louisiana primary[196]
• March 10: Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, and Ohio primaries[196]
• March 17: Arizona, Florida, and Illinois primaries[196]
• To be determined: Colorado caucus (March 3, 10 or 17)[196]
• April 7: Wisconsin primary[196]
• April 28: Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, and Rhode Island primaries[196]
• May 5: Indiana primary[196]
• May 12: West Virginia primary[196]
• May 19: Arkansas, Kentucky, and Oregon primaries[196]
• June 2: Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, and South Dakota primaries[196]
• June 7: Puerto Rico primary[196]
• June 16: District of Columbia primary[196]

The 2020 Democratic National Convention is scheduled for July 13–16, 2020

 

[GreyCrow]

2020 Republican Primaries (if required)

With Donald Trump formally announcing in 2017 many Republicans are holding off

Bill Weld Governor of Massachusets is the only other to formally announce

Republican Primaries

February

• February 3: Iowa caucus[83]
• February 11: New Hampshire primary[83]

March

• March 3: Super Tuesday (Alabama, California, Massachusetts, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, and Virginia primaries)[83]
• March 7: Louisiana primary[83]
• March 10: Hawaii caucus; Idaho, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, and Ohio primaries[83]
• March 17: Arizona, Florida, and Illinois primaries[83]
• Not yet determined: Colorado caucus (March 3, 10 or 17); Minnesota primary (March 3 by default, unless an alternate date is chosen)[83]

April

• April 7: Wisconsin primary[83]
• April 28: Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, and Rhode Island primaries[83]

May

• May 5: Indiana primary[83]
• May 12: Nebraska and West Virginia primaries[83]
• May 19: Arkansas, Kentucky, and Oregon primaries[83]
• May 26: Washington primary[83]

June

• June 2: Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, and South Dakota primaries[83]

No National Convention date is listed

 

[pjcrows]

New NH primary polling (UNH)

Dems
Sanders 26%
Biden 22%
Harris 10%
Warren 7%
O'Rourke 5%
Klobuchar 4%
Booker 3%

GOP
Trump 68%
Kasich 17%
Weld 3%

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

I find it pretty interesting that Trump doesn't ever really go for the throat of Sanders like he does others. I get the feeling it's because he knows there are a fair portion of potential cross over voters between himself and Bernie. He also either doesn't rate Bernie as a chance to win the Democratic nomination, and therefore feels comfortable building up Bernie so he will do damage to the eventual nominee OR he genuinely sees Bernie as his biggest threat and achilles heel and doesn't want to build up Bernie's profile amongst Dem voters (who hate Trump).

Don't forget Bernie's supporters were doing an excellent job of destroying the candidacy of the woman he knew he was probably going to be facing off against in the vote.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

Don't forget Bernie's supporters were doing an excellent job of destroying the candidacy of the woman he knew he was probably going to be facing off against in the vote.

Yep. Everyone’s fault except for Clinton.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Yep. Everyone’s fault except for Clinton.

You're projecting a bit, there.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

You're projecting a bit, there.

Explain how Sanders supporters ‘destroyed the candidacy’ of Clinton.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Explain how Sanders supporters ‘destroyed the candidacy’ of Clinton.

Are you kidding, the infighting between the Dems during the 2016 primary was horrific compared to 2008. It's an unspoken rule of common sense that you don't demolish the opposition when you're campaigning for the nomination because the party will be nominating one of you and all of that dirty laundry doesn't suddenly disappear. The Democrats literally shot themselves in the foot with the way the primary was handled and that's why somebody much worse than Hillary is now in office.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

Are you kidding, the infighting between the Dems during the 2016 primary was horrific compared to 2008. It's an unspoken rule of common sense that you don't demolish the opposition when you're campaigning for the nomination because the party will be nominating one of you and all of that dirty laundry doesn't suddenly disappear. The Democrats literally shot themselves in the foot with the way the primary was handled and that's why somebody much worse than Hillary is now in office.

So you think Clinton lost because of Sanders supporters?

And anyway LOL. Your ‘unspoken rule’ that Sanders supporters supposedly broke cost Clinton but the much dirtier in-fighting between Republicans didn’t prevent Trump becoming president.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

So you think Clinton lost because of Sanders supporters?

Well this is a loaded question. I mean, do you think it helped her chances?

And anyway LOL. Your ‘unspoken rule’ that Sanders supporters supposedly broke cost Clinton but the much dirtier in-fighting between Republicans didn’t prevent Trump becoming president.

Probably because Trump was the one slinging the dirt LOL

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

Well this is a loaded question. I mean, do you think it helped her chances?

I think there were many more factors than 'those mean Bernie Bros didn't help the nice lady get elected'.

And why the **** should they have tried to help her? She represents everything they don't stand for. If they had just rolled over like you wish they did then the Democrats would never have been pushed further left as they are now. People don't just have to accept mediocrity.

Probably because Trump was the one slinging the dirt LOL

This is ahistorical. The anti-Trump GOP stuff was much worse.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

I think there were many more factors than 'those mean Bernie Bros didn't help the nice lady get elected'.

And why the **** should they have tried to help her? She represents everything they don't stand for. If they had just rolled over like you wish they did then the Democrats would never have been pushed further left as they are now. People don't just have to accept mediocrity.

In exchange for playing the long game and rejecting mediocrity, the current US president has pretty much undone the last eight years of social progress that was made under Obama, stoked racial tensions and perpetuated policies of racial discrimination, handed control of agencies like the EPA to the ilk of coal lobbyists, attacked affordable care, cost millions of people wages over an ineffectual wall, taken action against climate change back ten years, pumped up military spending, and made tertiary education even less accessible for young americans.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I wasn't aware Bernie bros stood for any of that either. Maybe middle class white people can get away with making stands about mediocre politicians because their standards of living doesn't change much, the poor and minorities don't.

This is ahistorical. The anti-Trump GOP stuff was much worse.

I don't recall anybody from the GOP claiming Trump was anything more than unqualified, divisive and uninformed, all of which were legitimate criticisms based on his campaign. You'll have to show me what was said that was much worse.

 

[pjcrows]

Are you kidding, the infighting between the Dems during the 2016 primary was horrific compared to 2008. It's an unspoken rule of common sense that you don't demolish the opposition when you're campaigning for the nomination because the party will be nominating one of you and all of that dirty laundry doesn't suddenly disappear. The Democrats literally shot themselves in the foot with the way the primary was handled and that's why somebody much worse than Hillary is now in office.

Haha. What.

 

[its free real estate]

Swoon is rivaling Seeds for bad takes.

Clinton lost because of arrogance. Didn’t even campaign in key Midwest states that she ended up losing. What a bozo!

 

[ep2018]

Clinton lost due to the shitty electoral system they have in place. How the hell can you lose an election if you win the popular vote by 3 million plus?

 

[GreyCrow]

Clinton lost due to the shitty electoral system they have in place. How the hell can you lose an election if you win the popular vote by 3 million plus?

Tomato tomayto

Some think numbers gets you across the line and New York, Florida and California can certainly help the momentum

BUT

Their strategists would have been crunching the numbers and thought it was going to be close


The 3 states that shifted to Trump would have carried Clinton across the line. Michigan , Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. 107,000 votes

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/swing-state-margins/

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/...igan-wisconsin-what-happened-2017-9?r=US&IR=T

Yet Hillary still blames the FBI. Maybe she is right , maybe not even after that her strategists should have redone their calculations

Critics of Clinton’s campaign strategy have said her efforts (or lack thereof) in those three states — traditional Democratic strongholds that were carried by President Donald Trump — highlighted the Democratic presidential nominee’s biggest problems as a candidate.

Losing those three states cost her the election. Each state was decided by a razor-thin margin, which allowed Clinton to win the popular vote by roughly 3 million votes yet still lose in the Electoral College.

 

[Chicago1]

Bernie is speaking in Chicago at the moment! Isn't that exciting?

I actually had a ticket to see Trump in Chicago on March 11, 2016 at the UIC Pavilion where I had seen Barack Obama in Feb 2007, the day after he annouced for the Presidency in Springfield. I wanted to see the Trump circus and the deplorables. However, when I heard of the protests outside of the Pavilion, I decided not to go. It was cancelled anyways. The last time I decided not to go to an event like that was in August 1968 at this thing called the Democratic National Convention in Chicago when I was 16.

I still have my ticket for the Trump rally. I'm just finishing up making out my will, if anyone is interested in it. I also have a campaign button collection going back to the 1964 election. Goldwater for President. In your heart, you know he's right.