2021 Draft and Trade thread

[Ralphy2017]

When should we next spend a high draft pick on a KPP? Daniher probably has 5-6 years left, similar for Adams. I think a KPP needs about 3-4 years of development on an AFL list before they start coming into their own, so perhaps in 2023? Ballenden probably gets cut at the end of the year, but he can be replaced by a lower draft pick with few problems.

I know Ballenden is on the rookie list, but hope he gets at least one more year, just needs a bit more mongrel and a few kilos of muscle and we could see genuine improvement. He is a good kick.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

I know Ballenden is on the rookie list, but hope he gets at least one more year, just needs a bit more mongrel and a few kilos of muscle and we could see genuine improvement. He is a good kick.

He might, simply due to the lack of KPPs on our list, but it'll make the delisting decisions at year's end even tougher. I don't think he's ever going to develop that mongrel, players usually either have it or they don't.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

I know Ballenden is on the rookie list, but hope he gets at least one more year, just needs a bit more mongrel and a few kilos of muscle and we could see genuine improvement. He is a good kick.

He is an excellent kick, but he has other deficiencies. Not sure he has the physicality to make it as a KPP in the AFL.

 

[a mayes ing]

Didn't Carlton learn anything off Colingwood. Will he even be able to play footy in 6 years, looks so beat up

 

[davemc_lions]

He is an excellent kick, but he has other deficiencies. Not sure he has the physicality to make it as a KPP in the AFL.

Ballenden been playing the Rich/Birchall role in the twos at times.
just because you are 200cm does not always make you a ruck or KPP.
I do worry about him one on one. He is a good intercept mark and great skills by foot.
I had high hopes for Fullarton although he seems to have no confidence in goal kicking, for a big guy does not take too many marks.
Very good below his knees though. Ruck he tries although now Lane in the side not sure he be #2 ruck now.
Have not watched todays match yet saw the score

Be interesting spot wise what we do with him and others.


Suns wise Bowes or Lukosius be nice.

 

[Warwick]

He might, simply due to the lack of KPPs on our list, but it'll make the delisting decisions at year's end even tougher. I don't think he's ever going to develop that mongrel, players usually either have it or they don't.

Agree.

Still waiting for Josh Schache to develop some mongrel.

 

[Viceregal]

Agree.

Still waiting for Josh Schache to develop some mongrel.

Should your patience last that long you will need to change your username to Job methinks ...

 

[Big Sauce 21]

terrible by Carlton, already showing signs he is broken.

 

[Scubaveg]

Agree.

Still waiting for Josh Schache to develop some mongrel.

Won’t happen.


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[Warwick]

Won’t happen.


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Which is why I can’t see Ballenden simply developing that aspect of his game. I’d rather look elsewhere.

 

[bain22]

Good signs for Ashcroft.

 

[briztoon]

U17’s Vic Metro vs Country will be live on the AFL site. 11 30am tomorrow

 

[Tom14]

Ashcroft with 10 disposals and a goal in the first half of metro v country.

 

[Tom14]

Ashcroft with 10 disposals and a goal in the first half of metro v country.

Mustn't have been up to date stats - early in the 3rd and Ashcroft listed with 20 touches (14 kicks, 6 handballs) and at least 2 centre clearances already this term.

 

[M Malice]

Imagine the meltdown in VFL heartland if we win back to back flags and then get the consensus number one talent in the 2022 draft.

 

[mpal6]

Imagine the meltdown in VFL heartland if we win back to back flags and then get the consensus number one talent in the 2022 draft.

Should've happened back in 2005. Better late than never.

I might even make an argument for Nick Riewoldt Gold coast zoning etc. But Murphy is more legit case.

 

[Dalions]

Imagine the meltdown in VFL heartland if we win back to back flags and then get the consensus number one talent in the 2022 draft.

No doubt they will change the rules before then.
The Premier can’t match a Father Son in the first 20 picks.

 

[Tom14]

Ashcroft bombs one in from 50 on the run with his 32nd disposal (including 11 clearances).

 

[M Malice]

Our 2023 midfield for our 3peat attempt > Harry Sharp, Hugh McCluggage, Jarrod Berry, Cam Rayner, Deven Robertson, Zac Bailey, Will Ashcroft(pick 1) and Jasper Fletcher(top 10 pick) with backup from old heads Lachie Neale and Jarryd Lyons.

 

[Tom14]

Tsatas also very very impressive. From the 2.5 quarters I watched Ashcroft was pretty clean in close, seemed to be playing on the defensive side of each stoppage but occasionally would run through and take a clearance out the front. Nice finishing ability too. Didn't show real high end athleticism or outside run, but was just exceptionally tidy.

Long way to go for him and for us, but getting a player like him for pennies on the dollar is exactly the sort of thing that prolongs your stay at the top.

 

[briztoon]

 

[briztoon]

Noah Bradshaw playing for one of the two Vic Country sides in this weekends U19 trial matches.

Starting on the bench, probably indicates he’s a fair way off come draft time.

 

[bungalow_bill]

Our 2023 midfield for our 3peat attempt > Harry Sharp, Hugh McCluggage, Jarrod Berry, Cam Rayner, Deven Robertson, Zac Bailey, Will Ashcroft(pick 1) and Jasper Fletcher(top 10 pick) with backup from old heads Lachie Neale and Jarryd Lyons.

Perhaps too Ely Smith and Cockatoo

 

[jjami15]

Argh I missed both his goals!! 1st the stream wasn’t working and the second because I had to go out quickly. From limited viewing his work was done in close. Not a lot of spread and throwing it on the boot but he just seems to have a sixth sense or was able to go in and get it when he wanted. A lot to work with, already having visions of he and Dev getting in and under and feeding it out to Hugh and Neale in a few years time.

 

[M Malice]

Early top 5 2022 draft prediction..... from Davo-27 one of big footys more notable phantom drafters >

1. Will Ashcroft - VM
2. George Wardlaw - VM
3. Elijah Tsatas - VM
4. Oliver Hollands - VC
5. Adam D'Aloia - SA