2021 Non-Crows AFL Talk 2: are the VFL corrupt?

[arrowman]

HTB rule:

Really, is it that hard, do we need more changes to the rule, or do we just need to enforce it properly?


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You left out "no prior, player makes genuine attempt but ball is held to him" but yes, that's it.

I've never understood the angst about the htb rule, I think it's not difficult / complex, or controversial. The only dodgy bit is maybe how different umpires interpret "prior" sometimes.

 

[arrowman]

Just call a ball up as soon as the player is tackled if there's no prior opportunity. Then throw it up immediately, don't wait for everyone to crowd around.

Have a default ruck who goes for each contest. Then if someone else wants to contest it, they have to nominate as soon as a ball up is called. It should all take about 5 seconds.

Except if the player is good enough / strong enough / has arms free, he / his team is penalised by not being allowed that disposal.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Another thing that really grinds my gears is how the umpires interpretation of the rules changes during finals footy. They put the whistle away and the commentators inevitably start talking it up and saying how refreshing it is. Meanwhile I'm sitting at home thinking "if it's really better like this, why don't they do it all the time? Don't they see how amateurish it looks when they change it up for the sake of finals?".

 

[RoweyThePainter]

I would love to see STK not tackle this week, as a protest, doubt it would change result much. Flood back and be fresh to go forward.

 

[BronCrow]

I would love to see STK not tackle this week, as a protest, doubt it would change result much. Flood back and be fresh to go forward.

Has Garry Hocking joined St Kilda's coaching staff?

 

[RoweyThePainter]

Has Garry Hocking joined St Kilda's coaching staff?

No. A mathemetician has.

 

[BronCrow]

No. A mathemetician has.

Buddha's Tactics

Anyone else see this on channel 10 sport? :D He threw all 18 players into the defensive 50 leaving the opposition on their own in the centre square during a WAFL game (or was it colts?)

www.bigfooty.com

 

[footy4ever]

Another thing that really grinds my gears is how the umpires interpretation of the rules changes during finals footy. They put the whistle away and the commentators inevitably start talking it up and saying how refreshing it is. Meanwhile I'm sitting at home thinking "if it's really better like this, why don't they do it all the time? Don't they see how amateurish it looks when they change it up for the sake of finals?".

My absolute pet hate.

Why suddenly should the rules change?...because that’s what it amounts to.

Commentators’ flagellating over ‘letting it go’ sound ridiculous.

 

[RoweyThePainter]

Buddha's Tactics

Anyone else see this on channel 10 sport? :D He threw all 18 players into the defensive 50 leaving the opposition on their own in the centre square during a WAFL game (or was it colts?)

www.bigfooty.com

Read. A poor side lost by 92pts. Fair chance StK will lose to dogs by 40+. This only inspires more.

 

[Thetrader15]

You left out "no prior, player makes genuine attempt but ball is held to him" but yes, that's it.

I've never understood the angst about the htb rule, I think it's not difficult / complex, or controversial. The only dodgy bit is maybe how different umpires interpret "prior" sometimes.

In that case, it's a ball up. Simple.

 

[GROTTO]

Time for a laugh.

 

[RoweyThePainter]

Time for a laugh.

This actually sums up the essence and maturity of the debate. Well played.

 

[subaru]

Time for a laugh.

“Mmmmmmm

nnnnnnnnnoooooooooooo”
Lol

Straight to the bay that one
Hilarious

 

[MatthewB]

 

[subaru]

So they want to claim they caused the 999 losses ?

History hi jacking flogs

 

[GROTTO]

“Mmmmmmm

nnnnnnnnnoooooooooooo”
Lol

Straight to the bay that one
Hilarious

As I said if I can make one person laugh out loud.......

 

[BRL121]

Sorry for bringing this up late, but what are your thoughts on the goal awarded to Dusty over the weekend when he knocked over the goal umpire?
I've never seen anything like this before: most of the ball was over the line, but one end was on the line. However, Dusty's foot was completely over the line when he glanced the ball.
Is this sort of thing addressed in the rules? It seems weird to me that you can get a goal while being completely out of bounds. Nevertheless, the review went on for ages and eventually gave the goal. Thoughts?

 

[RoweyThePainter]

Sorry for bringing this up late, but what are your thoughts on the goal awarded to Dusty over the weekend when he knocked over the goal umpire?
I've never seen anything like this before: most of the ball was over the line, but one end was on the line. However, Dusty's foot was completely over the line when he glanced the ball.
Is this sort of thing addressed in the rules? It seems weird to me that you can get a goal while being completely out of bounds. Nevertheless, the review went on for ages and eventually gave the goal. Thoughts?

Looked like a goal as per the rules, made contact by foot before ball completely crossed the line.

 

[GROTTO]

Sorry for bringing this up late, but what are your thoughts on the goal awarded to Dusty over the weekend when he knocked over the goal umpire?
I've never seen anything like this before: most of the ball was over the line, but one end was on the line. However, Dusty's foot was completely over the line when he glanced the ball.
Is this sort of thing addressed in the rules? It seems weird to me that you can get a goal while being completely out of bounds. Nevertheless, the review went on for ages and eventually gave the goal. Thoughts?

I find it interesting that Dusty could run right through a goal umpire and no review if his conduct was raised.

Sure it was an accident and not malicious, but then so is almost all collisions on the ground with field umpires.

 

[RoweyThePainter]

I find it interesting that Dusty could run right through a goal umpire and no review if his conduct was raised.

Sure it was an accident and not malicious, but then so is almost all collisions on the ground with field umpires.

Goal umps are more dispensable. Hell even if Port players become goal umps.

 

[Kickin Goals]

I find it interesting that Dusty could run right through a goal umpire and no review if his conduct was raised.

Sure it was an accident and not malicious, but then so is almost all collisions on the ground with field umpires.

Dusty has clocked football he makes the rules now.

 

[GROTTO]

Dusty has clocked football he makes the rules now.

Agree.

Tell me the last time a player dislocated an umpire's shoulder and not a single word was mentioned about the possibility of a review?

 

[RoweyThePainter]

Agree.

Tell me the last time a player dislocated an umpire's shoulder and not a single word was mentioned about the possibility of a review?

Don't make Jason Dunstall bring out that 1970 GF footage again

 

[Tyls83]

What a hot mess SEN SA is. .......
Rooch: “we chat to Melbourne assistant Troy Chaplin about the Power that Mark Williams is having at the undefeated demons”

 

[WetCrow1991]

St Kilda should just be removed from the league.