Fixture 2021 Season Fixture & Ticketing Info

[cats_09]

Do you actually think people will come to the game just because Isaac Smith

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is now at geelong? How bizarre.

You do realise that in the past the Geelong vs Hawthorn (Geelong home game at MCG) has often been a Melbourne replacement match for Hawks members to compensate them for the Hawthorn home games in Tassie

So if its a match that they don't have to pay anything extra to attend, then you'll get Hawthorn supporters turning up as there's no additional cost for them to do so - and based on comments on social media after his decision, I wouldn't be surprised if some did want to use it as an opportunity to get stuck into him & jeer him whenever he gets a possession

 

[goyoucatters]

You do realise that in the past the Geelong vs Hawthorn (Geelong home game at MCG) has often been a Melbourne replacement match for Hawks members to compensate them for the Hawthorn home games in Tassie.

Thanks for that. Helps to explain how the crowd numbers have held up so well for this game over recent years.

 

[cats_09]

Thanks for that. Helps to explain how the crowd numbers have held up so well for this game over recent years.

That kinda annoys me also as I'm not sure the impact it has on our club in terms of gate revenue, and if we take a hit in clashes with Hawthorn because of it

Please don't hold me to these numbers, but isn't the club better off with like 30k in attendance at KP than 50k at the MCG? I think it's like 60k+ in attendance at the MCG before we break even with home matches at KP and start to make a profit - I'm sure someone will correct me or know the full details (I just don't feel like trying to search for them at the moment as I hit a brick wall trying to find the figures previously). It's also why I hate people (opposition fans) who argue that Geelong requests games at the MCG "because they make more money" when we don't, and they either don't want to know that basic fact or they don't care about it

So if Melbourne based Hawthorn members are given access to an oppositions home game (in this case Geelong) as compensation for matches the club chooses to play in Tassie - so not talking about those with away memberships or who have purchased an upgrade for match access; so is there some payment or remuneration to Geelong in such cases? Because I understood it to be that during the season it was the teams (home) that benefited from match day sales, while in finals it's the AFL and hence why the AFL will shaft us & move us to the MCG as it benefits their pockets

It also goes a way to explaining why Geelong (h) vs Hawthorn games will continue to be played at the MCG for the foreseeable future as long as it continues to be an accessible match for members of both teams - if it stops being a free access compo match for Hawthorn members, then we may well see it moved down the highway as long as Hawthorn remain pretty shit

 

[goyoucatters]

Please don't hold me to these numbers, but isn't the club better off with like 30k in attendance at KP than 50k at the MCG? I think it's like 60k+ in attendance at the MCG before we break even with home matches at KP and start to make a profit - I'm sure someone will correct me or know the full details (I just don't feel like trying to search for them at the moment as I hit a brick wall trying to find the figures previously). It's also why I hate people (opposition fans) who argue that Geelong requests games at the MCG "because they make more money" when we don't, and they either don't want to know that basic fact or they don't care about it.

Like you, I can't quote the exact figures. But it has been recorded on several occasions that we make more money from 30,000 at home then we do from drawing 60,000 at the 'G. And it's not just opposition fans who mistakenly go on about us supposedly requesting games at the MCG to make more money. Up until recently, when the club got sick of being screwed royally by the AFL and just named this whole sham for the farce that it is, we used to have some of our own fans here say that the club actually requested MCG games to maximise revenue.

I don't actually know how this could be any clearer now. The club would be really pleased to choose where we play all our home games. And would then choose Kardinia Park every single time. As it is, we're the only club that doesn't get the liberty (let alone the basic right) to determine this matter for ourselves.

What. A. Joke.

 

[Sticksman]

... I wouldn't be surprised if some did want to use it as an opportunity to get stuck into him & jeer him whenever he gets a possession

Let's hope they get to jeer him about 35 times

 

[cats_09]

Let's hope they get to jeer him about 35 times

What about a kick for goal after the siren, but this time he slots it through the middle

 

[Down at K Park]

What about a kick for goal after the siren, but this time he slots it through the middle

That would have to sting. But they won’t get close enough for that to be a possibility.

Although the angry midget reckons we aren’t that good lol.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

That's a bit harsh considering that the club has repeatedly asked for 11 home games at KP and for home finals to be at KP

Don't blame the club for decisions made at HQ

Remember last year when the club was a lot more vocal about home finals, there was more media attention about it and ultimately just more criticism of the club, talk that they were already finding excuses and they just needed to get on with playing football

The club puts in their fixture requests including 11 games at KP - what more do you want them to do? I guess we could boycott our "home" games at the MCG and just look childish about the whole thing, but that won't change the fixture decisions

Hopefully after the stage 5 update is complete we can get those additional home games at KP - but until then, I'm just happy that we have 2 home games at the MCG and none at Etihad/Marvel or whatever it's called

Harsh?? harsh?? lol I Haven't even started to lay the boots in.

Not good enough i'm afraid.
We as it stands are the ONLY team that doesn't get an allocated 11 home games at our home venue.
The ONLY club.
i'm not including those who have sold their souls to Tasmania... they aren't worth me wasting my breath.
Piss poor effort by those in charge of the club in lobbying the AFL and other teams to do the right thing.
The call for us to play the Hawks at the G clearly illustrates the stupidity of it all. A cellar dweller team in 2021 and we play them on their home turf.
FFS if that doesn't get headline news in the Addy and on own website then we have pissants running the club.
Not one article written on any media outlet regards to this... again. Crickets is all we hear.
I haven't been to a Melb home game in over 15 years... looks like another coming up.
Those in charge yet again have failed in getting the fixture fixed so we get what every other club gets.
Nothing more Nothing less is all i ask.
Cheers mate... My rant is over. For today at least.

 

[cats_09]

Wonder if this will give the AFL scheduling ideas for future seasons...

 

[Virus]

Smith has been a really good servant of the Hawks, but he's hardly a luminary. So, unless they end up thinking they're a good chance to win, I can't see the Hawks supporters turning out in their droves. And certainly not to waste what they might otherwise term 'good money' just to jeer Smith as he goes around in the hoops.

Is it just Simpkin and Smith in the past 15 or so seasons to switch between Geelong and Hawthorn? If so it’s a win for us

 

[Seeds]

You do realise that in the past the Geelong vs Hawthorn (Geelong home game at MCG) has often been a Melbourne replacement match for Hawks members to compensate them for the Hawthorn home games in Tassie

So if its a match that they don't have to pay anything extra to attend, then you'll get Hawthorn supporters turning up as there's no additional cost for them to do so - and based on comments on social media after his decision, I wouldn't be surprised if some did want to use it as an opportunity to get stuck into him & jeer him whenever he gets a possession

I just find that hard to believe. its a 33 year old who was a solid player but nothing spectacular and his career is just about done.


when geelong played gws did any geelong fans base their decision to go to the game because SJ played for GWS? I highly doubt it.

 

[Vdubs]

What about a kick for goal after the siren, but this time he slots it through the middle

For Geelong, we hope, and not an errant kick for his ex team.

 

[JohnZ]

That kinda annoys me also as I'm not sure the impact it has on our club in terms of gate revenue, and if we take a hit in clashes with Hawthorn because of it

There's basically no crowd at marvel/docklands which matches KP for profit for the club. Thats why we fought pretty strongly to stop playing home games there.

For the MCG I think it was in the 70k to 80k range. Anything above that the club makes more at the MCG. I believe Hawthorn pays the club for every member who turns up to a replacement game. Othereise theyd be double dipping on away games. No different to the melbourne away game memberships that geelong sell. They pay the other club when the cats member scans in.

 

[goyoucatters]

Is it just Simpkin and Smith in the past 15 or so seasons to switch between Geelong and Hawthorn? If so it’s a win for us

That's all I can recall. And neither 'cost' the destination club anything, with Simpkin being picked up as a DFA. Joffa won a flag with the Hawks, though, so here's to Isaac at least matching that effort.

They did sting us with David Loats

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in 2003, though, so perhaps they're still in front...

 

[Seeds]

That's all I can recall. And neither 'cost' the destination club anything, with Simpkin being picked up as a DFA. Joffa won a flag with the Hawks, though, so here's to Isaac at least matching that effort.

They did sting us with David Loats

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in 2003, though, so perhaps they're still in front...

Aaron lord is the obvious example. Geelong to hawthorn and then back to geelong.

 

[goyoucatters]

Aaron lord is the obvious example. Geelong to hawthorn and then back to geelong.

Correct. But the poster above only referenced the last 15 years.

Lordy was '94-'96 Geelong, '97-'01 Hawthorn, and then '02-'03 back at the Cattery.

 

[dazbroncos]

There's basically no crowd at marvel/docklands which matches KP for profit for the club. Thats why we fought pretty strongly to stop playing home games there.

For the MCG I think it was in the 70k to 80k range. Anything above that the club makes more at the MCG. I believe Hawthorn pays the club for every member who turns up to a replacement game. Othereise theyd be double dipping on away games. No different to the melbourne away game memberships that geelong sell. They pay the other club when the cats member scans in.

i seem to recall Cookie saying 60k at the G is the breaking point for us to make $$ there

Happy to be corrected. However when its all cream at KP and sell outs at 35k mean a million gross I think it is... hard to argue why we ASK for MCG home games. Its not a financial incentive.

GO Catters

 

[Down at K Park]

i seem to recall Cookie saying 60k at the G is the breaking point for us to make $$ there

Happy to be corrected. However when its all cream at KP and sell outs at 35k mean a million gross I think it is... hard to argue why we ASK for MCG home games. Its not a financial incentive.

GO Catters

Yeah i dont know why we still do it. Unless we are going to get 90k + vs richmung, or the pies, then i don’t see why we wouldn’t just play them at home and sell the place out. The tuggers and pies are probably the exception. Why would we do it for the hawks and only get maybe 70k at the mcg? It’s pointless. At least now the blues and bombers are being made to play down here. Hawks should be next.

 

[cats_09]

Yeah i dont know why we still do it. Unless we are going to get 90k + vs richmung, or the pies, then i don’t see why we wouldn’t just play them at home and sell the place out. The tuggers and pies are probably the exception. Why would we do it for the hawks and only get maybe 70k at the mcg? It’s pointless. At least now the blues and bombers are being made to play down here. Hawks should be next.

The point is that we don't want to play home games at the MCG - every year we request all 11 home games at KP, and every year the AFL says nup you'll have to travel to Melbourne for a couple of home matches.

The somewhat compromise is that the club really doesn't want any home matches at Marvel, so if we have no choice in the matter & have to play home games in Melbourne then we'll request the MCG for said matches

Hopefully the next stage of redevelopment will help to further push for all our home games to actually be at our home ground

 

[dazbroncos]

The point is that we don't want to play home games at the MCG - every year we request all 11 home games at KP, and every year the AFL says nup you'll have to travel to Melbourne for a couple of home matches.

The somewhat compromise is that the club really doesn't want any home matches at Marvel, so if we have no choice in the matter & have to play home games in Melbourne then we'll request the MCG for said matches

Hopefully the next stage of redevelopment will help to further push for all our home games to actually be at our home ground

The G is the lesser of 2 evils vs Colonial stadium no doubt....

The issue is that we should not be forced to make that decision by the AFL - it should be ours to make.

GO Catters

 

[cats_09]

The G is the lesser of 2 evils vs Colonial stadium no doubt....

The issue is that we should not be forced to make that decision by the AFL - it should be ours to make.

GO Catters

Yep

Come next finals series and we get to "host" a match, there's part of me that would fully support the club requesting the match at a venue like the GABBA, especially if playing a Melbourne side - I'm aware that it would impact the number of Geelong fans able to attend, but **** being the home team in a final and playing on the oppositions home ground

 

[cats_09]

I know we currently have no games scheduled at Marvel, but wouldn't be surprised if there's ultimately changes to the scheduled for this up coming season, if other venues decide to take the same option or if folks are just going to Marvel for another event - this may be of value

 

[dazbroncos]

I know we currently have no games scheduled at Marvel, but wouldn't be surprised if there's ultimately changes to the scheduled for this up coming season, if other venues decide to take the same option or if folks are just going to Marvel for another event - this may be of value

not a fan - i understand it - not a fan
I like the choice to be mine not dictated to me.

Perhaps I dont want my financial data points to register I was there.

Go Catters

 

[Partridge]

I just find that hard to believe. its a 33 year old who was a solid player but nothing spectacular and his career is just about done.

when geelong played gws did any geelong fans base their decision to go to the game because SJ played for GWS? I highly doubt it.

Not to mention fans of all clubs are pretty much numb to player moves now as there are so many, in any and all directions.

The couple of Hawthorn fans I know (one has worked at the club) have responded with shrugs about him leaving. It's how the modern game works.

 

[cats_09]

not a fan - i understand it - not a fan
I like the choice to be mine not dictated to me.

Perhaps I dont want my financial data points to register I was there.

Go Catters

Seems like it's becoming the norm across venues, with the MCG either having already made the same decision or in the process

Adelaide Oval run food & beverage has been card only for a few years, but looking at their website you can get what they call a 'cash card' which allows you to transfer your cash onto a card for use within AO and the card can be reloaded - wonder if other venues will look at that option