Player Watch 2022 AFL National Draft Discussion - read the pinned post

[Strapping Young Lad]

National AFL draft Monday November 28(first round only).
All other selections to be held on Tuesday November 29.
The pre-season and rookie drafts will then take place at 3pm (AEST) on Wednesday November 30.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

 

[hawkinoz]

36 and 48, i think

it is now 38 & 49.

Will move to 39 and 50 after Davey bid, right in the Munkara zone.

 

[killerspud]

Blank and Frostv already provide this competition for him. I think we have another role in mind for Weddle, midfield/wing perhaps?

Or allowing One of Sicily, CJ, Scrimshaw or Day a new role up the ground

 

[kanyoppaa]

2 min 25 mark, mentions spoken to hawthorn the most, we were clearly very keen on him considering it was doubtful he would be at our original second.

 

[TDS7]

From an article regarding the NAB league Grand Final, in case anyone was doubting we got an impactful player:

Mackenzie was the top-ranked player on the ground in a polished and well-rounded display through the midfield.
The St Kilda Next Generation Academy prospect tallied 170 SuperCoach points from 26 disposals, 17 kicks (at an elite 85 per cent efficiency), 10 >score involvements, 6 tackles, 6 clearances and two goals, franking his status as a top-10 pick in this year’s draft.

In comparison, Ashcroft managed 157 supercoach from his 39 disposals, 9 score involvements, and six clearances.

170sp from 26d is elite impact for a midfielder. When Cam gets the ball, things happen.

 

[A1fromDay1]

I was critical of Mark Mckenzie during trade week but gee some of you lot will never be happy.

We bitc#ed and moaned all trade week about his inability to get another first rounder now that he does we're still going.

Kudos to MM for getting the deal done and bringing in more top end talent to the club.

Great first round tonight, all year we complained about the ball use from our midfield brigade well we brought in the best kicking midfielder in the draft & a high upside defender.

 

[matey]

With Morris, Blanck, DGB coming through and now Weddle so excited to see what plans Sam has with Siss, CJ, Scrimmers, Day and Hardwick. The white board will be going bananas on game day. Exciting times!

 

[TDS7]

We traded that pick as part of the Wardle deal.

Good to get some clarity. I assume it was our F2 and not the Dogs then?

 

[Rhayader]

it is now 38 & 49.

Will move to 39 and 50 after Davey bid, right in the Munkara zone.

37 and 45 according to Fox

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[Strapping Young Lad]

With Morris, Blanck, DGB coming through and now Weddle so excited to see what plans Sam has with Siss, CJ, Scrimmers, Day and Hardwick. The white board will be going bananas on game day. Exciting times!

MacKenzie said above that they see Weddle moving up the ground, and that he could play wing.

 

[HeHateMe]

it is now 38 & 49.

Will move to 39 and 50 after Davey bid, right in the Munkara zone.

Didn't 48 come in a bit? Think it might be 45 now.

 

[Topiary]

Good to get some clarity. I assume it was our F2 and not the Dogs then?

No. I understand it was our future second. We have retained the dogs future second.

 

[TDS7]

No. I understand it was our future second. We have retained the dogs future second.

I'm all on board death riding the doggies. No Dunkley, no culture, no wins, no second round pick.

 

[PLATTS44]

pretty sure there was a pick swap with brisbane and nothing to do with the weedle pick where brisbane recieves our 41,50,52,63 and we get 36 and a future 3rd from them.

 

[Gollum]

The more I've thought about the Weddle pick, the more I see how he could be a similar player to Ginbey in that they're similar height, similar weight, similar athletic ability, both attack the ball, and Ginbey was moved from hbf up to midfield this year pretty successfully, so maybe the Hawks think they could do a similar thing with Weddle

 

[On Topic]

MacKenzie said above that they see Weddle moving up the ground, and that he could play wing.

I think the intention is to have him play wing as a starting point. I think his attributes match that role better and will probably be a it under utilised in defense.

 

[hardway]

The GWS pick that got bid on would’ve cost us less with the same player being picked up. Why weren’t the list managers at GWS and Hawks involved in talks?

 

[number23]

Is there anywhere that is a definitive source of whether the F2 and F3's are ours or from the Doggies? And is there are definitive source of what picks clubs have (as a result of trading) next year? I can't seem to find any info whatsoever and no one from the HawthornFC twitter account is answering questions as to whether the F2 and F3 are the doggies are not. Given that they screwed up and then deleted the tweet after we did the Brisbane pick trade I have no faith with HawthornFC when they say "our" .

I also did some quick maths (happy to be corrected).

If we traded Pick 27, and our F2 and F3 (say #24 and 42) then the aggregate is 1,883 points which is around Pick 5.
If we traded Pick 27, and Doggies F2 and F3 (say #30 and #48 at worst) then the aggregate is 1,634 points which is around Pick 8.

In either case it looks as if we paid well overs for Weddle. I have nothing against Weddle as he looks good as a player although I don't get the position that he plays as a priority for us. If they want to move him forward it would make more sense although I always worry about (Aaron Naughton

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aside) when we swap players from their original position first up eg trying to turn Shoey into a CHB when he was a CHF.

 

[spudmaster]

pretty sure there was a pick swap with brisbane and nothing to do with the weedle pick where brisbane recieves our 41,50,52,63 and we get 36 and a future 3rd from them.

Yup.
1. Brisbane gets 41, 50, 52 and 63 - Hawthorn gets 36 and future Round 3

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AFL Draft Tracker: See every pick, bid and trade by your club

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[TDS7]

The more I've thought about the Weddle pick, the more I see how he could be a similar player to Ginbey in that they're similar height, similar weight, similar athletic ability, both attack the ball, and Ginbey was moved from hbf up to midfield this year pretty successfully, so maybe the Hawks think they could do a similar thing with Weddle

Same thing with Cam Mackenzie.

Started as a halfback, made the move into the midfield and became a top 7 pick. Different player to Weddle and Ginbey, more skilled extractor and less of an intercepting, crash-and-bash lockdown guy. Opportunity can give us all such bountiful gifts.

 

[CobberRodgers]

The GWS pick that got bid on would’ve cost us less with the same player being picked up. Why weren’t the list managers at GWS and Hawks involved in talks?

Exactly! Spot on!

 

[Sixpence]

Noah Long and Billy Dowling with our last two picks please. Or Harvey Gallagher.

N Long to go with C Mac and Josh W!

 

[hawker11]

DGB go home factor ?????

A talented kid but can’t see him holding full back AND CHB…

 

[Sixpence]

The GWS pick that got bid on would’ve cost us less with the same player being picked up. Why weren’t the list managers at GWS and Hawks involved in talks?

Exactly! Spot on!

That's pretty speculative. You don't know what goes on behind the scenes.

 

[hardway]

That's pretty speculative. You don't know what goes on behind the scenes.

Seems very odd, there was a win win opportunity for both clubs.