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Based on today, my Rd 1 prediction is:

B: Howe, Dean, Maynard
HB: Pendlebury, Moore, Quaynor
C: Sidebottom, Adams, J.Daicos
HF: Elliott, Mihocek, Kreuger
FF: Ginnivan, Cox, McCreery
R: Grundy, De Goey, Lipinski
Int: N.Daicos, Crisp, Hoskin-Elliott, Bianco

I think it looks like that except Bianco in the 22.
 
I've updated my predicted team to this. I am confident in 21 of the 22 just not sure Henry will be picked. Will be one of Henry, Macrae, Poulter, T.Brown, Ruscoe, Noble.

Pies by 63 now based on yesterdays game
I have a feeling Noble will be picked. Played in the Team A side, plus they seem to like players who can roll off one position (in his case, HB) into another (wing)
Provided some good pressure too.
 

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B: J.Howe, J.Roughead, B.Maynard
HB: S.Pendlebury, D.Moore, I.Quaynor
C: J.Daicos, J.Crisp, S.Sidebottom
HF: T.Bianco, B.Mihochek, O.Henry
F: J.Elliott, M.Cox, J.Ginnivan
R: B.Grundy, T.Adams, J.DeGoey
I: N.Daicos, P.Lipinski, N.Kreuger, W.Hoskin-Elliott
Sub: F.Macrae
EMG: T.Brown, J.Noble, D.Cameron, B.McReery

I only feel like there are 4-5 spots up in the air and they are all forward of the ball. I think the main position battles for best 22 at the moment are below;

Cox VS Cameron (2nd ruck/key forward)
Kreuger/Henry VS McReery (marking forward or play the pressure forward)
Bianco/Hosk VS Brown/Noble/Macrae (two spots across half forward/wing)
 
Getting tougher to put together, after yesterday's showing!

B. Quaynor Dean Howe
HB. Maynard Moore Pendlebury
C. J.Daicos Crisp Sidebottom
HF. De Goey Kreuger Hoskin-Elliott
F. Elliott Cox Mihocek
R. Grundy Lipinski Adams
I. N.Daicos Noble Ginnivan McCreery
E. Bianco (sub) Henry Poulter Ruscoe

Seems Henry might have to work a bit harder for his spot? I'd love to have him in there though.

I like Tyler Brown and hope he can make it, hard to squeeze him in though

Fingers crossed for Howe and JDG to get up for round 1
 
Based off yesterday practice match.

Best 22 Round 1 v Saints.

B: Maynard. Dean. Quaynor.
HB: Howe. Moore. Pendlebury

C: J.Daicos. De Goey Sidebottom

HF: Adams. Mihochek. Ginnivan
F: Ellliott. Cox. McCreery

R: Grundy. Lipinski. Crisp

INT: Krueger. Noble. N.Daicos. WHE
Sub: Henry? Macrae? I can't decide.

Was debating re: Henry, but given he played in the VFL team kinda makes me think he might need more work to do. Also had to fit McCreery in there.
 
You'd have to say that the intraclub and practice match have gone close to cementing positions for Ginnivan, Kreuger, Cox, and Charlie Dean.

Given the forward line is our most questionable part of the ground, it's encouraging to see three players in the front half put their hands up so high. Krueger’s intensity was a real highlight; Ginnivan just looks a natural footballer; nothing about Cox looks natural, but he’s just getting the job done right now. Deserves first shot over Cameron on both their preseason efforts.

Charlie Dean, meanwhile, just looks ready to go. A very astute pickup.

It means we're probably lining up something like this...

FB: Maynard - Dean - Howe
HB: Pendles - Moore - Quaynor
C: Sidebottom - Adams - J Daicos
HF: Krueger - Mihocek - JDG
F: Ginnivan - Cox - Elliott
R: Grundy - Lipinski - Crisp

Int: N Daicos - McCreery - Henry - WHE


Outside N Daicos, who is untouchable, any one of those interchange players could be moved out for Noble, Bianco, Poulter, a Brown brother, Macrae, McInnes, Cameron… it really depends what sort of style we wanna run with. Attacking options? Defensive cover? Midfield depth? We’ve got choices. The players from about 20th to 30th on the list are all fairly closely matched.

Speaking of midfield depth… we’ve got a surprisingly deep midfield with all of Adams, Daicos Jr and Sr, JDG, Lipinski, Crisp, Maynard, Elliott and Pendles able to run through there at a pretty high level. It means that a lot of the time we’ll be seeing players like N Daicos/Pendles/Crisp behind the ball; or JDG/Elliott/Sidebum ahead of the ball. That sort of flexibility will be a fresh look for this team.

But above all, let’s just hope we see the sort of intensity, application and endeavour we saw against the Hawks. That proactive mindset alone will be worth the price of admission after the last few seasons.
 
You'd have to say that the intraclub and practice match have gone close to cementing positions for Ginnivan, Kreuger, Cox, and Charlie Dean.

Given the forward line is our most questionable part of the ground, it's encouraging to see three players in the front half put their hands up so high. Krueger’s intensity was a real highlight; Ginnivan just looks a natural footballer; nothing about Cox looks natural, but he’s just getting the job done right now. Deserves first shot over Cameron on both their preseason efforts.

Charlie Dean, meanwhile, just looks ready to go. A very astute pickup.

It means we're probably lining up something like this...

FB: Maynard - Dean - Howe
HB: Pendles - Moore - Quaynor
C: Sidebottom - Adams - J Daicos
HF: Krueger - Mihocek - JDG
F: Ginnivan - Cox - Elliott
R: Grundy - Lipinski - Crisp

Int: N Daicos - McCreery - Henry - WHE


Outside N Daicos, who is untouchable, any one of those interchange players could be moved out for Noble, Bianco, Poulter, a Brown brother, Macrae, McInnes, Cameron… it really depends what sort of style we wanna run with. Attacking options? Defensive cover? Midfield depth? We’ve got choices. The players from about 20th to 30th on the list are all fairly closely matched.

Speaking of midfield depth… we’ve got a surprisingly deep midfield with all of Adams, Daicos Jr and Sr, JDG, Lipinski, Crisp, Maynard, Elliott and Pendles able to run through there at a pretty high level. It means that a lot of the time we’ll be seeing players like N Daicos/Pendles/Crisp behind the ball; or JDG/Elliott/Sidebum ahead of the ball. That sort of flexibility will be a fresh look for this team.

But above all, let’s just hope we see the sort of intensity, application and endeavour we saw against the Hawks. That proactive mindset alone will be worth the price of admission after the last few seasons.
I think yesterday cemented Krueger. He did nice things in the intraclub, but this practice match was like. wow.

Ginnivan ive been impressed all pre-season. Has been a lock the last month.
 
hmmm i wonder why, when he first joined as coach he did sort of roast Macrae and Henry for their tackling efforts
The style Macrae is getting us to play favours talls and smalls inside 50. Elliott and JDG changing will give us our one and only bloke playing like an inside 50 medium forward. Henry is going to have to player higher up the ground where there's more competition for spots. I think he's going to have to develop physically, defensively or his intensity at ground level before he's an automatic.
 
It means we're probably lining up something like this...

FB: Maynard - Dean - Howe
HB: Pendles - Moore - Quaynor
C: Sidebottom - Adams - J Daicos
HF: Krueger - Mihocek - JDG
F: Ginnivan - Cox - Elliott
R: Grundy - Lipinski - Crisp

Int: N Daicos - McCreery - Henry - WHE


Outside N Daicos, who is untouchable, any one of those interchange players could be moved out for Noble, Bianco, Poulter, a Brown brother, Macrae, McInnes, Cameron… it really depends what sort of style we wanna run with.

I think you and Jen are about right with the 22.

I’ve got 20 of that 22 settled for Round 1 with the two I’m still not sold on being Noble and WHE from Jen’s team and WHE and Henry from the above. McCreery maybe the other one but I think his speed and pressure front half get him the first shot.

WHE probably gets a round 1 gig but I’d play him and Henry this week in similar roles and see who wins out for the 1 spot. Long term I’d be going with Henry so keen to get games into him.

Noble’s spot for mine is a choice of Noble, Bianco, Macrae or McInnes. I’d be going for one of Macrae or McInnes personally but I’m thinking McRae might want them to earn it and Noble probably gets first shot.

The good news is that seems like a reasonable core of 27-28 with Roughead, Ruscoe and Cameron as well which means that players such as Madgen, Murphy, Wilson need to really step it up to get a shot.


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The style Macrae is getting us to play favours talls and smalls inside 50. Elliott and JDG changing will give us our one and only bloke playing like an inside 50 medium forward. Henry is going to have to player higher up the ground where there's more competition for spots. I think he's going to have to develop physically, defensively or his intensity at ground level before he's an automatic.
I’ve always preferred the traditional forward set up. Dekka seems to draft the hybrid forwards though, conflict with new coaching staff? Or was he directed to find those types under our previous coaching team?
 
I reckon there's 30 you'd be happy with in the seniors. Then there's 6 with a few years under their belt that we'd call on when we had to but hopefully not for long periods. And 6 youngsters, hopefully 1 or 2 jump out of the box this year.

Howe Roughead Maynard
Quaynor Moore Pendlebury
J Daicos Adams Sidebottom
Lipinski Mihocek Kreuger
Elliott Cox Ginnivan
Grundy De Goey Crisp
N Daicos McCreery Hoskin-Elliott Noble

Macrae Poulter Henry Ruscoe
Cameron Dean Bianco McInness

T Brown C Brown Kelly Murphy Wilson Madgen

Johnson Draper McMahon Begg Chugg Murley Harrison
 

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Also depends on how we define "Best 22" is

In 2022, is our best 22
  • the one that always has the best chance of winning?
  • the best / fittest / most ready players on the list?
  • One that seeks to rotate players?
  • One that develops our younger players?
 
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I reckon there's 30 you'd be happy with in the seniors. Then there's 6 with a few years under their belt that we'd call on when we had to but hopefully not for long periods. And 6 youngsters, hopefully 1 or 2 jump out of the box this year.

Howe Roughead Maynard
Quaynor Moore Pendlebury
J Daicos Adams Sidebottom
Lipinski Mihocek Kreuger
Elliott Cox Ginnivan
Grundy De Goey Crisp
N Daicos McCreery Hoskin-Elliott Noble

Macrae Poulter Henry Ruscoe
Cameron Dean Bianco McInness

I missed Poulter in my post above and I’m dirty on myself for it as I rate the kid. If you’re looking at Noble as someone that can play wing and flanks then I’d prefer Poulter in that role.

He’s definitely in the mix and I agree with your 30, with Johnson forward and Kelly back being 2 more I’d like to see come into the mix during the year.

The wildcard to add here for me is Draper. He’s one I sense might come on quicker than expected.


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B: Jeremy Howe - Darcy Moore - Isaac Quaynor
HB: Brayden Maynard - Charlie Dean - Scott Pendlebury
C: Josh Daicos - Taylor Adams - Steele Sidebottom
HF: Jamie Elliott - Brody Mihocek - Oliver Henry
F: Nathan Kreuger - Mason Cox - Jack Ginnivan
R: Brodie Grundy - Jordan De Goey - Jack Crisp
I: Nick Daicos - Patrick Lipinski - Caleb Poulter - Will Hoskin-Elliott
Sub: Trey Ruscoe

E: John Noble - Finlay Macrae - Beau McCreery
Pretty good. Out. Hoskin Elliott. Sidebottom In. Ruscoe. McCrae. Sub Mciinnes
 
Also depends on how we define "Best 22" is

In 2022, is our best 22
  • the one that always has the best chance of winning?
  • the best / fittest / most ready players on the list?
  • One that seeks to rotate players?
  • One that develops our younger players?
We don’t really have much old deadwood. Blokes like Roughead and Elliot could easily finish top six in the Copeland if they play the full year. Howe and Pendlebury are still class, and Mihocek is a consistent performer playing a tricky position.
 
We don’t really have much old deadwood. Blokes like Roughead and Elliot could easily finish top six in the Copeland if they play the full year. Howe and Pendlebury are still class, and Mihocek is a consistent performer playing a tricky position.
Yeah
My question is more about what we’re trying to achieve in 2022 and I think it’s complicated
Playing our “best” team this year may not, ultimately, achieve what we want — player development etc
 
Also depends on how we define "Best 22" is

In 2022, is our best 22
  • the one that always has the best chance of winning?
  • the best / fittest / most ready players on the list?
  • One that seeks to rotate players?
  • One that develops our younger players?
As Leppa said in an interview last week.

You win for the now and keep an eye on the future.
 
I’ve always preferred the traditional forward set up. Dekka seems to draft the hybrid forwards though, conflict with new coaching staff? Or was he directed to find those types under our previous coaching team?
I think it was coaching philosophy. Bucks made it clear that he liked agile forwards with a decent aerial and ground game.

As the game changes and kicking skills under pressure continue to improve, it'll probably eventually become a sound philosophy. But he went too early on it. You need contested brutes at the moment, because you've just got to get it in quickly to a contest before too many get back. There's just not enough space and your ball carriers are consistently under too much pressure to regularly lace out leading forwards. The overwhelming majority of your entries need to be to a contest.

I don't think we'll continue to recruit as many medium leading forwards, unless the coaches project the game changing quite quickly.
 
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FB: Maynard - Roughead - Howe
HB: Pendles - Moore - Quaynor
C: WHE - Adams - J Daicos
HF: Krueger - Mihocek - JDG
F: Ginnivan - Cameron- Elliott
R: Grundy - Lipinski - Crisp

Int: N Daicos - McCreery - Noble - Sidebottom

Depth: Cox, Henry, Macrae, Ruscoe, C Brown, T Brown, Bianco, Poulter, Wilson, Murphy, Madgen, Kelly.

Ready For Action: McIness, Dean.

Youth: Draper, Harrison, Murley, Begg, Johnson, McMahon.
 
FB: Maynard - Roughead - Howe
HB: Pendles - Moore - Quaynor
C: WHE - Adams - J Daicos
HF: Krueger - Mihocek - JDG
F: Ginnivan - Cameron- Elliott
R: Grundy - Lipinski - Crisp

Int: N Daicos - McCreery - Noble - Sidebottom

Depth: Cox, Henry, Macrae, Ruscoe, C Brown, T Brown, Bianco, Poulter, Wilson, Murphy, Madgen, Kelly.

Ready For Action: McIness, Dean.

Youth: Draper, Harrison, Murley, Begg, Johnson, McMahon.

Looks good!

By season’s end my hope is that Poulter, Macrae and McIness will have pushed WHE, Sidebottom and Noble out of our Best 22.

Not sure how things will work out for Henry. I just don’t see a spot for him in our forward line unless there are injuries. I suspect there will be more opportunities for him if he retrains as an intercepting defender.


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Is this thread round 1 or our best 22? It's confusing because some are naming Roughead and some are naming Dean. I thought Dean was really average in the praccy match, concerns me he's QB2 behind Roughead. Keane leaving was actually a fair kick in the dick. Makes it uber confusing why Kelly is playing forward too.
 
Looks good!

By season’s end my hope is that Poulter, Macrae and McIness will have pushed WHE, Sidebottom and Noble out of our Best 22.

Not sure how things will work out for Henry. I just don’t see a spot for him in our forward line unless there are injuries. I suspect there will be more opportunities for him if he retrains as an intercepting defender.


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I see WHE = Henry. Similar medium sized marking forwards who play taller than they are. So hopefully by the end of the years, that's what will happen.
 

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