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Fly said in his presser, they'll decide tomorrow how many picks they'll use. Said he wasn't sure they would use two, that they'll see who is available and go from there.

I dare say we take 2 in but might pass on 2nd one IF all Players been taken
 
I dare say we take 2 in but might pass on 2nd one IF all Players been taken
I think it's a bit stupid not to take 2. You can sign someone for six months and see if they're good before you commit. No loss situation.

We picked up Johnny Noble in the draft as well as Johnson and Begg. Noble is good and the other two are either injured or not mature enough to make a fair call.
 
If we were to take someone, I hope we select a KPP, not a ruck. We've got Cox, Begg, Cameron and Grundy when he comes back so that's plenty. At the end of the year, if Cox retires, we can address this need via trade on the merry-go-round or pick someone up. A lot of good teams can survive without a ruckman - the clearance matters more.
 

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I think it's a bit stupid not to take 2. You can sign someone for six months and see if they're good before you commit. No loss situation.

We picked up Johnny Noble in the draft as well as Johnson and Begg. Noble is good and the other two are either injured or not mature enough to make a fair call.

I 100% Agree even IF we just take someone to cover the KPP Spots for rest of the Season

We do have a Good Record in Mid Season Draft so far
 
I 100% Agree even IF we just take someone to cover the KPP Spots for rest of the Season

We do have a Good Record in Mid Season Draft so far
The only way I think it would be okay for us to put someone on our list for just the rest of the season would be if we took Michael Hartley. That would be a reasonable move since he's already at the club, and I presume he'd be prepared to accept such an offer. I don't think there's any way we should/would be bringing in any other player (potentially from another state) for just 6 months. I think it's more likely we'll take just the one player, with Roughead's retirement meaning he'll be permanently gone from the list at the end of the season. List spots should be very tight at the end of the year, with not that many players likely to be moving on, and if we took two players mid-season it would limit what we can do post-season.

Our coach said this in the press conference after yesterday's game, seemingly suggesting we are no certainty to take anyone:
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I think it's a bit stupid not to take 2. You can sign someone for six months and see if they're good before you commit. No loss situation.

We picked up Johnny Noble in the draft as well as Johnson and Begg. Noble is good and the other two are either injured or not mature enough to make a fair call.
You don't find out if a kid is good enough in 6 months - 18 months in and we are still well and truly unsure either way about Begg and Johnson. I think it's shithouse form to a take a kid for 6 months and then delist them, reducing their likelihood of getting a decent opportunity elsewhere. Unless you've been really clear that that's what you want to do with the kid and he's said OK.

And if we take two for 18 months, it'll really reduce the opportunities at the end of the year to trade in or draft from a bigger more exposed draft pool - unless we're going to cut really hard at the end of the year.
 
If we were to take someone, I hope we select a KPP, not a ruck. We've got Cox, Begg, Cameron and Grundy when he comes back so that's plenty. At the end of the year, if Cox retires, we can address this need via trade on the merry-go-round or pick someone up. A lot of good teams can survive without a ruckman - the clearance matters more.
I'm hoping for a big, feisty, first-possession mid that might bolster our clearances group; and/or, a big, competitve, marking option - preferably one that can play at either end.

One successful pick would be great, so it seems a no-brainer to take two cracks at it - especially after losing two talls (Roughead & Keane) in a short time.

But even with a bit of a talls 'crisis', I'd go best available with our first crack and speculative, rather than 'safe', with a second. By safe I mean someone who projects as a solid VFL back up, rather than more.
 
The only way I think it would be okay for us to put someone on our list for just the rest of the season would be if we took Michael Hartley. That would be a reasonable move since he's already at the club, and I presume he'd be prepared to accept such an offer. I don't think there's any way we should/would be bringing in any other player (potentially from another state) for just 6 months. I think it's more likely we'll take just the one player, with Roughead's retirement meaning he'll be permanently gone from the list at the end of the season. List spots should be very tight at the end of the year, with not that many players likely to be moving on, and if we took two players mid-season it would limit what we can do post-season.

Our coach said this in the press conference after yesterday's game, seemingly suggesting we are no certainty to take anyone:
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I would think there would be players chomping at the bit to get a crack at AFL that may have missed opportunity or been overlooked, even for 6 months.
 
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Currently we have Begg, Chugg, Dean, Ginnivan, Johnson and Noble as Category A Rookies. Noble needs to be elevated to the Primary List at the end of the year, as this is his fourth year on the list. When lists are finalised we can have a maximum of 6 Cat. A Rookies. I can see Chugg being delisted, and the remaining four players retained on the R/L. Bringing in one player to replace Roughead (and effectively have Noble's R/L spot at the end of the year) seems reasonable, but if we bring in a second player on Wednesday (who we'd want to keep on the list for 2023) there'd be no spots left, so that's why I think it doesn't make sense for us to do that. Wilson will have to be delisted or elevated from Cat. B status as well. I doubt they would dump him just after he's picked up a long-term injury, plus he was starting to show improvement. They may not want to give him a senior list spot, but could be prepared to try and pick him up in the rookie draft after delisting him. Will Kelly is another who could be in the firing line and a chance to be delisted, yet they may want to give him one last chance and put him on the R/L also.

The club will no doubt be wary of limiting the number of post-season moves they can make. Some posters will have a much longer list of players they expect/want to be moved on than others, but I think given we've had plenty of list turnover in recent years and have a good deal of youth on the list already I don't see us making that many changes at the end of the year.
 
I think it's a bit stupid not to take 2. You can sign someone for six months and see if they're good before you commit. No loss situation.

We picked up Johnny Noble in the draft as well as Johnson and Begg. Noble is good and the other two are either injured or not mature enough to make a fair call.

That presumes that someone’s contribution would be zero at worst.

I’m not a footy player, but in my own professional experience there are definitely people whose contribution is ‘net negative’ … ie: getting rid of them improves output.
 
That presumes that someone’s contribution would be zero at worst.

I’m not a footy player, but in my own professional experience there are definitely people whose contribution is ‘net negative’ … ie: getting rid of them improves output.


i am pretty sure we could apply that theory to BigFooty and lift the output in here!
 
I would think there would be players chomping at the bit to get a crack at AFL that may have missed opportunity or been overlooked, even for 6 months.
70K for a 5 month default contract is good coin and opportunity if not re- selected in the ND, Rookie and PSS.

The club then has the opportunity to add a contract extension if the player exceeds expectation.

Whilst I agree it may leave a bad taste to delist a player after such a short period the player knows entering the MSRD, the default contract is short term in nature ending on the 31st of Oct.

It's dual purposed in that it allows a club to fill a list position short term as well as an opportunity for a player to impress as a Rookie on an AFL list.
 
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Why do i see a skinny tom hawkins in that photo hah
More pointedly why the **** should the Swans have any say in whether Tassie get a team?
The AFL and Collingwood especially have spent hundreds of millions supporting the Swans and still do.
I was personally a Swans member for 5 years in their Canberra playing days to support their development.
Why can't a Tassie team get the same support?

Swans afraid they may lose some special support?
 
That presumes that someone’s contribution would be zero at worst.

I’m not a footy player, but in my own professional experience there are definitely people whose contribution is ‘net negative’ … ie: getting rid of them improves output.
Scott Morrison as an example.
Karl Stefanovic
Alan Jones
Stephen Quartermain
Donald Trump
 

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