Training 2022 Pre-season

[On the quiet]

Dev's future is as a center square midfielder, wouldn't be moving him to a wing to suit Ely.

I tend to agree

 

[On the quiet]

Agree with your comment re: Robbo, but Lester seems to have a knack of re-inventing himself back into the 22 season after season. In saying that, would not be surprised if Froggy stays until the end of 2023 at the very least.

Like what McStay did last year, 2022 will be the "making or breaking" for Tom Berry. Hopefully he gets his opportunity early and really gives it his best.

Hopefully Tom gets a chance early in the year, will certainly play the trials and hopefully can grab a spot. I can't agree with the Lester comment, we have too many good young players pushing for spots. If Lester is a permanent member of the 22 next season then a couple of the young guys should be seeking opportunities elsewhere. Perhaps Lester gets named as emergency a few times in 2022 (like the semi against the dogs)

 

[On the quiet]

Pencilling in Payne to any projected back6/7 is very premature imo. Need to see quite a bit more from him before I'm in favour of him playing ahead of Adams or Gardiner. This is nothing to do with his disposal which is not much worse than either of those guys, and is entirely due to the fact that I think his one on one defending needs a lot of work.

I agree that Adams and Gardner are in front of him, but both of them (and Payne) have been injured. I think Payne is contracted for another 3 years, so club sees potential (as do I), so I think it would be prudent to get some games into him, when we can.

I think Payne's 1 v 1 is reasonable for a 13 or 14 gamer, obviously still learning. I could be wrong but I don't recall a bag (IMO 5 or more in the modern game) being kicked on Payne. I don't think now with the modern game, looking at the number of goals or influence a direct opponent on paper has, is an accurate measure of performance of the back. Lester had 6 kicked on him against Richmond, but one of them, don't think he was even on the ground. Possibly with the exception of the fullback, teams seem to play zones rather than directly on one opponent.

 

[jimmytigs]

hey guys can you help me out please?
regarding fantasy,particularly ultimate

what position do you think d.robertson gets,C only or chance to keep F/C

from what i saw i fear he will lose the F
thoughts please?

 

[dlanod]

hey guys can you help me out please?
regarding fantasy,particularly ultimate

what position do you think d.robertson gets,C only or chance to keep F/C

from what i saw i fear he will lose the F
thoughts please?

Shouldn't you be asking the Ultimate Fantasy guys? It's not like we get to vote on what they decide.

 

[jimmytigs]

Shouldn't you be asking the Ultimate Fantasy guys? It's not like we get to vote on what they decide.

they wont answer anything about that at this time of year,just asking the people that will answer and have some idea,uf guys only cover 50% of that,cheers

 

[On the quiet]

Yeah I feel like playing Payne this year would be a good investment

Me too, but there are a lot of competent players on our list, so would not surprise if he misses out at the beginning of the season.

Think the trial games will be important this year for young guys like Payne, Dev, Prior, Answerth, Fullarton, Ely, Tom Berry, Madden, Ah Chee. Hopefully a couple can step up, and if good enough grab a spot in the 22. IMO most of those named above get a gig with other clubs, especially a number within the bottom 10. Obviously it is good we have a strong list for 2022.

 

[M Malice]

Went for a walk down to Yeronga, as of 4.10pm there was no Lions presence.

 

[On the quiet]

Tom Berry has been very low possession. I thought he showed great promise in the game against Collingwood last year. It was his pace and nimbleness that was his upside that night, and ability to get the ball on the spread. For that reason a wing or HFF role looks his best chance to me. Over the next 2 years there are 2 big roles up for grabs, Robinson and Zorko (coming off a great season but was not great in the finals, and 33 in Feb).
Deb Roberston seems set to be best 22 lock if he continues his improvement.
Ashcroft might well step in next year.
So a big year for Tom Berry to try to make his mark this year.

I do agree with Dev being very close to a lock for our best 22 and with improvement surely gets a number of games. I think he has a lot of promise, and will be a good player. Probably a bit frustrating for Tom (not financially) being named emergency on a few occasions this year. Think the trial games next year are important for him if he wants to make his mark early in the season.

 

[Grasshopper17]

We go long down the line every time I think to cover the fact that we are not fast in transition if the ball is turned over. Lyons and Neale are both issues for us defensively and when the ball is turned over holes quickly appear. Having such a narrow field helps contain this risk but really inhibits our ability to attack with speed and width.

To take better advantage of it going forward we need to spread more and then actually look to use those targets. Further when players receive the ball they need to be encouraged to play on quickly and use their legs rather than slowing it down and going back over the mark which we do a lot now.

It is not very complicated when I say it like that but if we are adding run to the team at some stage we should make actual use of it.

It wouldn't surprise me if this is already part of the game plan. i.e. if we can get uncontested ball through the corridor, bite that off and use the quick handball to generate some run from behind. If we can't, go long down the line to the next key forward, where those blokes who were trying to get into space in the corridor circle back and get to the tall's feet. We tried to use the corridor more this year than we did in 2020, with middling success, arguably less so the longer the season went on. I guess up until now we haven't really had the leg speed to find that space as easily, so perhaps the addition of a bit of pace through the midfield and across half back will result in more of this.

For what it's worth, I see the long down the line strategy as being more sustainable in finals, against good defences, but I do like the idea of generating quick ball movement via our smalls through the corridor/fat side when the opportunity presents. If nothing else, having those dual plans working hand in hand will keep our opponents honest and make it more of a risk for them to peel off and play a spare or two in the backline.

 

[Dalions]

Training On a basketball court somewhere.

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[M Malice]

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Looks a bit like St Laurence's, my grandson goes there and they're on holidays now so the facilities would be available.

 

[bato]

Harry Sharp is going to be an interesting watch this preseason. Mitch Robbo reckons he’s a good chance of taking over his wing spot.

 

[T Rick]

MRobbo has been a trademark player with his insane hardness - will really miss him when his time comes to be replaced in the team. I hope it is on his terms.

 

[scoman]

Looks a bit like St Laurence's, my grandson goes there and they're on holidays now so the facilities would be available.

The more you pay the less they go seems to be the motto of the private school in general.
Judging by the fees at that school they probably run with 5 week terms

Edit: Had this school confused with another.

 

[Dalions]

The more you pay the less they go seems to be the motto of the private school in general.
Judging by the fees at that school they probably run with 5 week terms

It’s actually one of the cheaper private Schools around.

 

[M Malice]

The more you pay the less they go seems to be the motto of the private school in general.
Judging by the fees at that school they probably run with 5 week terms

Seems that way.

As Dalions said the fees are quite reasonable, from what I've been told about half the cost of the girls school it backs onto ie. Somerville House.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

It’s actually one of the cheaper private Schools around.

Catholic schools usually are. They are subsidised by the church.

 

[scoman]

It’s actually one of the cheaper private Schools around.

Yep you're right. Just checked it out online again. I looked it up a while back to see what the fees were and must have had it confused with another school in Brisbane that was something like 33k +.

 

[Gadzorks]

Yep you're right. Just checked it out online again. I looked it up a while back to see what the fees were and must have had it confused with another school in Brisbane that was something like 33k +.

Six years about 200k. There are families who wouldn't bat an eyeline at that cost, but gotta wonder about the value for people who sacrifice everything to get their kids there.

I'd rather get 200k for a house deposit.

 

[POBT]

Catholic schools usually are. They are subsidised by the church.

There is a difference between what they used to call a "diocesan" school and an independent school which follows the Catholic denomination. Schools like Nudgee and Terrace are run a lot more independently from the church and thus are funded directly by government and parents. I think St Lawrence's falls into this category as it has its own Board.

Schools run more directly by the church, at least in Brisbane, are run by an umbrella organisation and operate as a network of connected schools. I believe funding from government goes to the umbrella organisation and then is allocated.

 

[Dalions]

 

[M Malice]

Ah ha, they were training at the new school ie. Brisbane South State Secondary College not St Laurence's, not far between the 2 schools though.

Apparently they have an AFL program as well.

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Interesting to note that Will Ashcroft & Jaspa Fletcher already participating in pre-season training with the boys already it seems, which is good to see.

 

[Dalions]

Interesting to note that Will Ashcroft & Jaspa Fletcher already participating in pre-season training with the boys already it seems, which is good to see.

I thought the one at the front there was Will but wasn’t sure who the other one was.