Preview 2022 Rd 7 Carlton vs North Melbourne Sat 30th April 7.25PM @ Marvel Stadium - Team Update Post #956

[Beyond Blue]

Fisher is one of those players that often looks like he's chasing because it's what the coach wants rather than him genuinely wanting to catch the player he's chasing. And he's certainly not alone there in our team. Too harsh?

It’s a bit harsh and I’m not a fan of his but I noticed at the game last weekend how hard he was trying.
Unfortunately probably due to his size and lack of craft I fear he’s just not going to be impactful enough to be a good player.

 

[Beyond Blue]

The reason we have lost games is the weakness on the HFF and wing flanks - last week the opposition had 25%+ more inside 50 entries that had to be defended by the back six - most of the entries came from rebound efforts and turnovers caused in Carlton's forward fifty directly through Carlton's weak underbelly - which has been the outside contingent.

Outside weakness has been recognized by Voss from the get go and we saw in pre-season and early games he has favoured a direct through the corridor attacking plan - which was looking very good when McGovern could play the intercept role and use his kicking ability to straighten up the lines and McDonald was able to handle one of the tall defender roles with some degree of credibility.

With the absence of both Mcs - transitioning play has been severely constrained and has highlighted the weakness of the outside capability of the team in both defensive transition and rebound ability - which has been pretty much zero effectiveness.

Voss is going to have to fix this issue but in the absence of key personnel in talls ( now aggravated by Pittonet's long term injury) the same weaknesses are going to be exposed against any opposition.


Voss has to rely on CBB wins and contested ball dominance to provide enough entries for Harry and Charlie to make enough marks and kicks to deliver a score. This is a very limited game plan against better defensive teams.

Over 4 quarters the better players are run off their feet because the weaker players have done a very poor job of playing their assigned team roles.

A bit of a frustrating situation that Voss is working through - so far this year all of LoB/Fogarty/Fisher/Martin/Setterfield/Cottrel and Newnes have been tried

I cant see much real improvement happening until McGovern and McDonald get back to allow for greater control of the corridor - but finding 2-4 outside alternatives isn't going to be easy with current list - after the bye might see access to a few players currently missing.

There are no credible marking targets to kick to on the flanks or HFF - that has been the problem all year. Williams is a very good kick made to look ordinary because of this. Saad is tucking the ball under his arm and running at every opportunity but again there is no credible outside easy release for him to join up with. Docherty is back to A grade form but again - he has no one to link with.

Stocker should be in firsts but he wont solve the outside problem either. Both Harry and Charlie have to make big runs to present as targets - to make up for this - and if SOJ is absent - it means that the forward line is often left to shorter blokes as direct targets- and we have seen how this doesn't work very well.

Until Calton can run and kick along the boundary as well as go direct in a controlled fashion down the guts- the side won't present much of a challenge to any capable team and every game will be an arm wrestle relying on individual performances rather than system based team success - with too few doing the heavy lifting because they can.

This is such a good summary of where we break down and I wrote as much in the autopsy thread having gone to the Dockers game.

Everyone hangs shit on Williams and Newman (to a lessor degree Saad and Doc) but they genuinely bust their arse defending and counterattacking but the real problem is the half forward line.

Hopefully Jack Silvagni gets up coz he’s a workhorse and whilst his form probably hasn’t warranted it I’d also consider Kemp for Martin who is one of the main culprits for the lack of representation across half forward.

 

[Ockhams razor]

Thanks for dropping by It's been a while

Not an ankle.

 

[thylacine60]

I can’t go Saturday so I have one ticket available.
If anyone wants it please PM me.

what if I don't wanna go? you can't make me...........

 

[carlton_99]

Not sure if JSOS not having an ankle injury is good or bad news...

 

[MPH78]

Not an ankle.

Always great to see you OR. Though wish you had better news. How worried should we be?

 

[Jimmyonesix]

Always great to see you OR. Though wish you had better news. How worried should we be?

Started as a corked knee worried or gov grade 1 hamstring worried ---- I hope not

 

[Benaly28]

Or Covid.


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[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Not an ankle.

So rolled ankle at training was fake news, or has been found to be worse?
Syndesmosis? Is that basically the same thing or syndesmosis is worse?

 

[thylacine60]

Cyndi's the mostest.........!

 

[marcmurphy3]

So rolled ankle at training was fake news, or has been found to be worse?
Syndesmosis? Is that basically the same thing or syndesmosis is worse?

The club said when he got pulled out of the freo game that they did an ankle scan which was clear. So would have to be something unrelated I would think.

 

[Kruezing]

You gotta love the transparency …

 

[Beyond Blue]

You gotta love the transparency …

Covid maybe?

 

[carlton_99]

If it was Covid why wouldn't they just say it - plenty of players from our club have had it and it was publicly announced

 

[carlton_99]

The club said when he got pulled out of the freo game that they did an ankle scan which was clear. So would have to be something unrelated I would think.

The injury update that was released most recently says "ankle sprain"

 

[ferrisb]

Would love willow to get a call up. Put him on a wing and let’s see what he can do

He can regularly take on the opposition...






... And get caught holding the ball....

 

[carlton_99]

He can regularly take on the opposition...






... And get caught holding the ball....

The most frustrating thing one of our players does. Tries to fend off and break tackles despite having options around him and gets caught holding the ball. I actually get upset when he does it successfully cause I feel it reinforces his thought that it is a good idea

 

[Love the Drake]

Time to make some changes Vossy. Surely we have gone past players like Newnes and Newman.

Carroll and stocker in. Kennedy in. JSOS in if fit.

Pitto, Newnes, Boyd and Newman out.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Stock did that run and 360
spin through the midfield so he has pace and Mongrel. I’m on board and hope the selection pans out .


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Stocker is a chunky unit now. Calm, confidant, nice kick, but he doesn't look fast in the VFL. Who does he replace? Newman? Parks is playing 3rd. tall, so he's required unless Kemp or Gov steps in.
I'd like to see Dow and Carroll get a game and Cottrell remain. We need legs.

 

[DollarsandSense]

Motlop in?

Just chanting so someone there can hear me......

 

[Benaly28]

Time to make some changes Vossy. Surely we have gone past players like Newnes and Newman.

Carroll and stocker in. Kennedy in. JSOS in if fit.

Pitto, Newnes, Boyd and Newman out.

At least 5.


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[BringFevBack2021]

Carroll in will make my day tbh

 

[carlton_99]

Xerri out with a foot injury. So Goldstein may be #1 ruck... perfect timing

 

[Red_man2008]

Xerri out with a foot injury. So Goldstein may be #1 ruck... perfect timing

Goldstein was spoken about in the noble press conference. It sounds like they will continue playing him forward. CCJ will likely come in for Xerri. 2nd gamer should be dominated by TDK.

 

[WFGodot]

The Xerri injury helps us quite a bit. TDK will have less to deal with.