Preview 2024 Rd 6 Carlton v GWS Saturday April 20 4:35PM (AEDT) @ Marvel Stadium

[gab213]

O’Keefe does seem like a more natural partner to TDK.

He does look very promising but at 19, I would rather they give him more time to build himself up in the reserves.

He is obviously in our long-term plans.

 

[Accidental genius]

The table of data below is provided on the GWS thread.....its good data and I don't think anyone would be surprised by it...its pretty clear we are very H/Charlie focussed. And Hogan is having a great season so far. GWS have a much better spread of f50 targets.

GWS	F50 Targets	F50 Marks
Jesse Hogan	45	26
Toby Greene	18	9
Aaron Cadman	17	10
Jake Riccardi	16	7
Callum Brown	11	7
Carlton	F50 Targets	F50 Marks
Harry McKay	43	17
Charlie Curnow	36	16
Matthew Owies	8	3
Patrick Cripps	8	3
Matt Kennedy	7	2

 

[Juddrockz]

Too early to start heading in??? Haha.
im excited about this game.
We're a massive chance to beat the "Orange " team today at Marvel.
Go Blues!!!!

 

[BlueTongue]

BLUENAMI!

 

[BlueTongue]

One for the Captains Club members - What time does the pregame access speeches etc start?

 

[carlton_99]

The table of data below is provided on the GWS thread.....its good data and I don't think anyone would be surprised by it...its pretty clear we are very H/Charlie focussed. And Hogan is having a great season so far. GWS have a much better spread of f50 targets.

GWS	F50 Targets	F50 Marks
Jesse Hogan	45	26
Toby Greene	18	9
Aaron Cadman	17	10
Jake Riccardi	16	7
Callum Brown	11	7
Carlton	F50 Targets	F50 Marks
Harry McKay	43	17
Charlie Curnow	36	16
Matthew Owies	8	3
Patrick Cripps	8	3
Matt Kennedy	7	2

We are sorely missing that Martin/JSOS type in our forward line.

 

[JJBagger]

I know people are really getting in on the “we only bomb it in” and “we are too Harry and Charlie focused” trains, but we are currently 5th in the league for goals per inside 50, 6th in points per game, and 3rd for scores per inside 50. And that’s with having played 2 of the stingiest defenses in the league this year in Brisbane and Freo. This would suggest somethings clearly working in this space?

 

[Soapy V]

Congratulations Matt "Chugga" Kennedy. Heart and soul player for our club. Has plenty of the good bloke feel about him. Hopefully the boys honour his achievement today.

Leave him in the midfield and he will be a gun. Sadly he is victim of us having Cripps Hewett Carroll that are similar and us trying to fit them all in

 

[Soapy V]

I know people are really getting in on the “we only bomb it in” and “we are too Harry and Charlie focused” trains, but we are currently 5th in the league for goals per inside 50, 6th in points per game, and 3rd for scores per inside 50. And that’s with having played 2 of the stingiest defenses in the league this year in Brisbane and Freo. This would suggest somethings clearly working in this space?

It’s because we hold it in with Fogarty Cottrell Durdin etc and our pressure. From pure entries we are poor

 

[JJBagger]

It’s because we hold it in with Fogarty Cottrell Durdin etc and our pressure. From pure entries we are poor

What if that’s the plan though? Getting the ball in as deep as possible, then lock it in to generate scores. The problem with clearing out the space is it invites pressure through interceptions and turnover, and can make you look horrible going the other way. You can’t do both

 

[Accidental genius]

We are sorely missing that Martin/JSOS type in our forward line.

Yeah Martin in particular is very good but he's hardly available for selection through injuries.

I think we need to trade in a proven third tall or small forward type.

 

[Accidental genius]

What if that’s the plan though? Getting the ball in as deep as possible, then lock it in to generate scores. The problem with clearing out the space is it invites pressure through interceptions and turnover, and can make you look horrible going the other way. You can’t do both

I can see benefits of this as well but we only have to look at last weeks game to see what we do wont take us too much further than where we got to last season.

Crows and other teams can double tag H/Charlie if the ball always goes to them and our smalls also congregate their as well causing congestion and difficulty for our big forwards to mark the entries.

I believe there is a much better advantage if our other forwards lead elsewhere and take their man with them leaving more space and hence a clearer advantage for our two guns to dominate.

 

[Magruder]

Morning all. Anyone pull a hammy getting their morning coffee? Hope not. Go Baggers…

Felt a twinge in the lower back getting the mail in yesterday. Been iced up - should be right for this arvo.

 

[JJBagger]

I can see benefits of this as well but we only have to look at last weeks game to see what we do wont take us too much further than where we got to last season.

Crows and other teams can double tag H/Charlie if the ball always goes to them and our smalls also congregate their as well causing congestion and difficulty for our big forwards to mark the entries.

I believe there is a much better advantage if our other forwards lead elsewhere and take their man with them leaving more space and hence a clearer advantage for our two guns to dominate.

Teams are Charlie and Harry focused anyway. They aren’t going to not focus on them because the smalls are running to 45 metres out on the boundary…

 

[GeorgieBoyBlue2]

My only onbservation is that Binns looked and played very "small" in the prelim games...will be interesting to see him play when he gets his chance.

Even if he did struggle in his first game or 2 most do, Ollie is struggling to get a kick at all and provides no link up like Binnsy does. Game is getting softer and softer with game going closer and closer to touch footy... Binnsy would outnumber at contest after contest and then get it on the outside.... everyone thought jeffy garlett was too thin.....

 

[Accidental genius]

Teams are Charlie and Harry focused anyway. They aren’t going to not focus on them because the smalls are running to 45 metres out on the boundary…

Well in that case, we should kick to our forwards in clear space by themselves. Their defenders will (should) soon learn or get told to man up.

 

[ferrisb]

First game I missed last week........

GOING THIS WEEK!

The boys only have a go when haveago goes...

 

[carltonchelsea]

Going to the game with my bro, first time since mid season last year, just found a hundred cash under some crap on the bedroom tv cabinetry and the missus didn’t manage to sniff it out, 18 year old son reckons his new entrepreneurial idea could make him 4K a week, got a preapproved loan from the bank to buy another house, walked the hound, got a few hours before I set off, how good is my life?!

 

[Franc de Borges]

One for the Captains Club members - What time does the pregame access speeches etc start?

3pm.

 

[Soapy V]

What if that’s the plan though? Getting the ball in as deep as possible, then lock it in to generate scores. The problem with clearing out the space is it invites pressure through interceptions and turnover, and can make you look horrible going the other way. You can’t do both

Never said different did I? Where have I said to clear out space? I believe it is the plan and I have no issue with it

My ONLY issue is that numerous times we enter the forward 50 and have people on their own we ignore them. Not only would it give us an easy shot at goal, stop opposition defenders focussing on Harry/Charlie thus giving them more space, but would also allow us more time with the ball and our players to have a breather.

 

[BIuebagger]

Went on a hot air balloon over the CBD this morning. Guess where the landing spot ended up being? Right at home in front of Gate 3 at Princes Park. Good omen? I’d love to think so. Great way to start the day. Fiancée claims I paid the pilot off to land there hahahaha

 

[mjtim1]

No matter how many we have out, bring the manic pressure and we will win. It was missing last week against Adelaide and we will be able to tell in the first 5 mins if we are 'ON' this week... Excited, should be a cracker !!!

 

[Gointocarlton]

Stating the obvious here but their fwd line is extremely potent, our mids need to get on top to help the defenders by stopping easy ball coming I50.

 

[Aphrodite]

 

[Red_man2008]

Yeah Martin in particular is very good but he's hardly available for selection through injuries.

I think we need to trade in a proven third tall or small forward type.

Hence Haywood

 

[Accidental genius]

Hence Haywood

Yeah he'd be a great get if we can.

Would slot in and fill a position of need perfectly.