Preview 2022 Round 3 Carlton vs Hawthorn Sunday April 3rd 1.10PM @ MCG - Team Post #1413

[thylacine60]

It'd be those meddlin' kids

 

[katmanblue]

It'd be those kids

I would have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for those kids.

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[haveago]

Hey ! Jones is on the Gold Coast playing for Currumbin.....beautiful spot !

Ah Queensland ........Beautiful one day , itchy the next ( I hate those bloody midgees)

 

[Garters]

I’m starting to warm to Parks coming in instead of Plow

At the game the last Thurs, thought everyone looked there about / did their bit, yet Plow looked a mile off it. Not in terms of conditioning or awareness etc. It just stood out quite obviously to me that the game had moved past him against quality opposition. It was quite pronounced and a bit sad really, have never been a Plow detractor, I actually think he gave a lot more when it was his time to go than most on the list last few years. I guess the positive take away is that against quality opposition we matched it and won and the game can leave you behind very quickly. Swings and roundabouts. Unfortunately I think Plows opportunities will be limited here on in. Positive is we have a game style and calibre of individual that have caused that.

 

[COBALT BLUE]

Ah Queensland ........Beautiful one day, itchy the next ( I hate those bloody midgees)

Huge up here in the wet this year!.....itchy right now

 

[SammaGilberto]

All the best Big boy. Sounds rough

 

[Blue Chip Pass]

Think I would have Plow ahead or Parks.
Especially if it is to handle players like Gunstan or Bruest.
Hopefully with the strength of our midfield, they won't get as many inside 50 looks.

PS. This is the first game, we see Cripps, Walsh, Cerra, Hewitt and Kennedy in the same side.
VERY EXCITING

 

[goreds]

All the best Big boy. Sounds rough

*Quickly changes margin to 12 goals

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

All the best Big boy. Sounds rough

Hope the big fella is okay.

One of the very few Hawks player I actually like.

 

[Blue Chip Pass]

Wow, that is sad for Big Ben.
That will give us a big advantage.

 

[Zlatan]

All the best Big boy. Sounds rough

Was really looking forward to seeing Gunston/McEvoy/Lewis trying to stretch our backline.

So they have Reeves, but Lynch the backup ruck is potentially still in concussion protocol(?).

I might be with Jimmae on this one - do we go with 1 ruckman and bring in an extra midfielder in the wet? Interesting late selection dilemma.

 

[Jimmae]

The reason I didn't rebut you is because it didn't deserve one... but if you insist!

Another great start

In what world do you think one of the most inform team going around (and definitely to Carlton standards) is going to be suddenly swinging the changes?

We're objectively and subjectively not, and it's basic tactical and more complex form considerations that would see us make a shift.

I mean what does that actually do to the team?

Rewards on-going performance metrics from reserve and first team players. Communication is key.

Pittonet IS one of the core reasons why our mids are getting their hands on the ball and is also part of the chain.

Sort of, and no. And as I've said repeatedly, in terms of the tapouts, the ruck opposition has been some of the weakest the league has to offer in terms of first choice options for a side.

He is in ripping form. He has elevated his game and we're reaping the rewards....

We're a tough at it midfield... he's the centre of it.

Nope, there's just more activity around him. Our midfield chains are incredible with and without him.

Now Fisher.

The only way I can explain that choice is that you simply do not understand his role.

He's the smaller player Mr Fix It, whilst SOS is the taller playrr Mr Fix it.

No, he's a high half-forward that's playing very loose.

He complements our tough inside mids well by being outside the pack, quick at hand and feet linkage role we're establishing. With leg speed, can play attacking forward and defensive forward. Can pitch hit in the mid and offers that elite pressure.

His link play has been mediocre, and he isn't creating any quality opportunities for team mates. He's reaping the rewards of a midfield that is genuinely providing 22-35 disposals a head to everyone in it.

He looked great in the Melbourne pre-season game, but the speed of the game has stepped up and he hasn't. He's a good kick technically, but he is currently putting himself in terrible positions to receive and dispose, and it's resulting in him weakening the chain of possession when the key reason he's in the team is to enhance that.

Setterfield, Durdin, O'Brien, and even Fogarty did a better job of this, and Fogarty was way better at forward pressuring* and pressuring the opposition counter-attack.

He has done his role to perfection.

I'm starting to think the sheer number of single line comments and lathering of superlatives suggests you might be taking an overly emotive stance that isn't reflected in reality.

Just a tiny bit.

On Newman, I have rewatched the game over the Dogs several times and his game has been undervalued externally, but doubt it would be internally. When we were under constant pressure, he was one of the main players intercepting or the avenue out. Yes he does a mistake here and there, but not often.

Newman was the weakest interceptor in the defensive unit, by far (3). Also barely made a spoil (2). There are midfielders that outperformed him in terms of defensive duties, even some forwards that came close, albeit not really in the D50.

Might have made a better case if you could point to lanes/channels he closed without needing to make a play, or the work of direct opponents, but we both know he didn't do much there either.

He's in the team for decision making with the ball and a decent long kick, but it shouldn't be at the expense of basic defensive play. The sooner he's out of the team, the less under pressure our defence will be, especially when there are 3 options close to selection that are both more athletic and more technically proficient by foot.

Above all, why are you looking at a negative angle to these players rather than positive? They've done a shitload more right than wrong.

This season a player here and there may be unreservedly dropped for positional/match up purposes, but it won't be 3 when we already have injuries.

The ability to identify and work to supplant weaknesses and enhance strengths in a performing team is what separates the good from the great. We were long overdue for being good with this list, which is why two senior coaches were sacked, and now we're in the window where we should be quickly evolving into great.

Fortune favours the bold, the brave, and the smart, to a point. Staying the course for no substantial reason does not reflect that, it reflects superstition.

EDIT: clarified Fisher comments

 

[bigbertha5]

At the game the last Thurs, thought everyone looked there about / did their bit, yet Plow looked a mile off it. Not in terms of conditioning or awareness etc. It just stood out quite obviously to me that the game had moved past him against quality opposition. It was quite pronounced and a bit sad really, have never been a Plow detractor, I actually think he gave a lot more when it was his time to go than most on the list last few years. I guess the positive take away is that against quality opposition we matched it and won and the game can leave you behind very quickly. Swings and roundabouts. Unfortunately I think Plows opportunities will be limited here on in. Positive is we have a game style and calibre of individual that have caused that.

Yes there's no doubt he does the odd job on a dangerous small forward but he just isn't a part of a confident and coordinated backline. He is just so negative and reactionary.

The amount of times the ball is kicked to his advantage and he stops, looks for his opponent, loses his advantage and is forced to punch the ball rather than just take an easy mark. Happened multiple times in the short time he was on the ground last week.

 

[Mondyboy]

Plow to play. Martin the likely sub.


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[katmanblue]

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[footyfan1978]

Where the **** is GA28?
Never seen this before on tickets

 

[footyfan1978]

Probably is Gate A28.

I never heard of that either.
Gate 5, 6 or 7 heard of but not A28.

 

[V_23]

Cerra and Young in, Fogarty omitted.

Happy with that.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Hoping Big Boy is alright. Great player to watch when he’s on.

 

[SammaGilberto]

Where the fu** is GA28?
Never seen this before on tickets

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[JoeyPBLUES]

All the best Big boy. Sounds rough

Hope he's OK & gets better ahead of schedule no-one needs that I'm with Zlatan would have liked to see how we dealt with their talls with Big Boy in.

 

[Kruezing]

With the unfortunate injury to McEvoy … I don’t see the need to go in with two rucks …

 

[footyfan1978]

If you're level 1 in the memberzone. this is from the club in an email earlier in the week.

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Even more confused now.

 

[Captain Judd]

Happy to see Martin not being a walk in starter because of name alone. He needs consistency especially from a more mature player now.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

With the unfortunate injury to McEvoy … I don’t see the need to go in with two rucks …

When Connor Nash or Mitch Lewis are rucking against TDK at the centre bounce you’ll be glad we held our structure.

Midfield dominance all day.