Rumour 2022 Rumour Discussion Thread

[Scorpus]

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[FR0GGY]

I don't want him out of the club but I follow your logic.

For example, Essendon would love a player as committed as Benny.

Benny and the Jets (bombers) you know it makes sense.

 

[Brett Cummings]

Kaeys is like jarod lyons... good player but just doesn't have every skillset, not the smoothest mover but excels in a few areas...

Is tradeable but has more value to the team than a 3rd rounder... doubt you could get more than that...

We traded lyons because we had a stacked midfield at the time....

Jarrod lyons is twice the player keays is. Lowballing him was a complete f!@k up.

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Jarrod lyons is twice the player keays is. Lowballing him was a complete f!@k up.

Not really, Lyons is an alright player. It’s not like we’ve missed his presence when he’s left.

 

[1970crow]

At the moment, it's more likely to hurt the club to try then then benefit it. We're already the youngest/most inexperienced team, and the likelihood of a move like that would just cause the rebuild to stall out (especially as Keays does embody that never say die attitude/toughness the club seemingly wants under Nicks), seeing it's that refusal to get older (a trap Gold Coast fell into for the last decade).

This one is likely to be better to revisit once Ben is out of contract in 2024.

Losing Keays won’t stall our rebuild. We’ve already seen the midfield go perfectly well without him. We get Sloane as a senior half forward next year, if we can get good value for Keays this year, especially if it helps with JHF, then we’d be mad not to do it.

 

[Cap]

Not really, Lyons is an alright player. It’s not like we’ve missed his presence when he’s left.

Career

Ben Keays and Jarryd Lyons AFL Stats Comparison

Ben Keays and Jarryd Lyons AFL Stats Comparison.

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Current Season

Ben Keays and Jarryd Lyons AFL Stats Comparison

Ben Keays and Jarryd Lyons AFL Stats Comparison.

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At same age

Ben Keays and Jarryd Lyons AFL Stats Comparison

Ben Keays and Jarryd Lyons AFL Stats Comparison.

www.footywire.com

Looks like DF Agents can go alright regardless of the team. But yeah, Keays and Lyons have pretty similar output. Probably different strengths

 

[1970crow]

Not really, Lyons is an alright player. It’s not like we’ve missed his presence when he’s left.

Same with danger by that logic.

 

[Gtowncrow]

Losing Keays won’t stall our rebuild. We’ve already seen the midfield go perfectly well without him. We get Sloane as a senior half forward next year, if we can get good value for Keays this year, especially if it helps with JHF, then we’d be mad not to do it.

Losing Keays now is premature IMO.

When he first came to the club we were wooden spooners and had slashed our list deeply. Our skills as a team were deserving of a bottom ranking.

Without skills, effort and tenacity is all the club could provide in an effort to be competitive. Keays has proven to be the perfect recruit at that time. Along with several other "effort" players.

We've improved a lot since then and now have multiple players who are adding proper skills. These players have already begun to overtake Benny in their value to the team performance. This will continue but I don't think were yet a mature enough side to discount the value of pure effort. This is Keays strong suit for sure.

If Benny is traded it would only be as part of a great "prize" for us like JHF or Rankine.

I think we'd still miss him in the team for now.

 

[skittlebrew]

Jarrod lyons is twice the player keays is. Lowballing him was a complete f!@k up.

Although there was an absolute minimum offer on the table we didn't so much low ball him as much as we forced him out.

The real travesty is we forced him out only to sell the farm on Gibbs who objectively had the same/lower output.

 

[1970crow]

Losing Keays now is premature IMO.

When he first came to the club we were wooden spooners and had slashed our list deeply. Our skills as a team were deserving of a bottom ranking.

Without skills, effort and tenacity is all the club could provide in an effort to be competitive. Keays has proven to be the perfect recruit at that time. Along with several other "effort" players.

We've improved a lot since then and now have multiple players who are adding proper skills. These players have already begun to overtake Benny in their value to the team performance. This will continue but I don't think were yet a mature enough side to discount the value of pure effort. This is Keays strong suit for sure.

If Benny is traded it would only be as part of a great "prize" for us like JHF or Rankine.

I think we'd still miss him in the team for now.

Slashing our list deeply is an urban myth. The best 22 players that refused our contracts were Keath, JJ and Thor. Thor and JJ had both been dropped in 2019 and we still had Talia and Harto as key backs. The rest of the changes made no difference to our best 22.

 

[MRB37]

Although there was an absolute minimum offer on the table we didn't so much low ball him as much as we forced him out.

The real travesty is we forced him out only to sell the farm on Gibbs who objectively had the same/lower output.

We wanted him to be in the Gibbs trade rather than a 1st round pick, Carlton refused any player to be in the deal, which turned out to be to their own detriment in the end.

 

[D Style]

So I guess Himmelberg is out of being traded to Freo.

 

[radiojake]

So I guess Himmelberg is out of being traded to Freo.

How so?

 

[radiojake]

Oh I see now

 

[Maddogmetro]

Slashing our list deeply is an urban myth. The best 22 players that refused our contracts were Keath, JJ and Thor. Thor and JJ had both been dropped in 2019 and we still had Talia and Harto as key backs. The rest of the changes made no difference to our best 22.

Seems like a pretty significant change over one year to me.

 

[kirky]

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Seems like a pretty significant change over one year to me.

How does 2019 compare to 2021/2022?

 

[D Style]

Oh I see now

I reckon this guarantees the Big Fish is goneski

 

[Betts are off]

Can we get JHF, Rankine and keep pick 4 this year?

Happy to use 1st rounder next year, and any other one. Plus all players previously mentioned.

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Short answer, no!

If we are making that kind of splash at the trade table then I don't see us picking in the 1st round for the next 2 years.

Which means Bicks will need to start watching a lot more of the U15's league

 

[chazwazza]

This thread needs to be renamed to
“5% Chance of 2mm of Rumours”

 

[Betts are off]

This thread needs to be renamed to
“5% Chance of 2mm of Rumours”

Lol, yeah thats about the long and short of it. Chat goes wild in the HBC. However, in fairness it's a Rumour discussion thread.

If you want only rumours someone just needs to create a new Rumours - No Discussion thread

 

[George Kramer]

Lol, yeah thats about the long and short of it. Chat goes wild in the HBC. However, in fairness it's a Rumour discussion thread.

If you want only rumours someone just needs to create a new Rumours - No Discussion thread

And it needs to be moderated

 

[Anzacpaul]

No, a great mate I went to Uni with.

He often comes around... I supply the quality meal & he always brings a quality aged red (or white). He is a walking wine encyclopaedia. Was bidding on wine at auction when he was here.

Sounds like I need to be your friend!

 

[Betts are off]

And it needs to be moderated

I know it gets pretty wild from here on out on BF with all the Trade week Cowboys returning. But we more or less kept it in check last year didn't we?

Or maybe we didn't. TBH I can't remember, I must have blacked out the memory!

 

[Scorpus]

Alright I'll start a rumors no discussion thread

 

[Maddogmetro]

How does 2019 compare to 2021/2022?

 

[kirky]

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Many thanks.