Resource 2024 AFL Draft discussion thread (Wed Nov 20 to Fri Nov 22)

[119others]

There’s a lot of pre-draft bluffing going on at present ….. SAINTS bluffed the newbie ESS list manager into giving up pick 9 for Fear they would bid on Kako

but Dees got the benefit? so why would Saints do that?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Zero Hanger has us picking Langford. as of 18 hours ago. I don't know any of these guys like so many of you, but what I do know is that we need a speedy chap, the type we haven't had since Dangerfield. I'm all for trading to 2 to get Draper. Gotta make a stand some time!

What about the highest metres gained and score involvements player this year ?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I personally can’t see a player averaging less than 20 touches in their draft year as a midfielder going in the top few. What a huge risk that is, I think he drops.

Certainly a risk at pick 1 !

They’ll take Lalor instead

 

[GROTTO]

mate thats not the right link - doesnt have that phantom draft

It is the Hearld Suns version of who will go where which I stated in my initial post.

 

[Jack McKraken]

Also, a little conspiracy theory is that its in the Dees interest to feign interest in Tauru - even if they didnt want him - to stop North trading with Tiges which is the most obvious and easiest trade partner (eg 6 and 18 for 2). By Dees ensuring Tauru goes at either pick 2 (or perhaps our 4), Dees get one further midfielder up on their list

Absolutely! Dees playing it well - bluff North to bite early and get increased choice on a mid

Or they really are interested, and limit the ability of North to trade with anyone after them, increasing the chance of North taking a mid at 2 instead leaving Tauru to them, with second prize of increased mid choice as above

 

[crows dude]

mate thats not the right link - doesnt have that phantom draft

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/2024-afl-mock-draft-live/video/a51f48796fedc2ffa5563c2fbbf20a8c

Top 11
1 - Ashcroft - Brisbane (bid matched)
2- Lalor - Richmond
3 - Taru - North Melbourne
4 FOS - Carlton
5 - Draper - Crows
6 - Smith - MElbourne
7- Smile - Richmond
8 - Langford - St Kilda
9 - Lombard - Gold Coast (bid matched)
10- Travaglia - St Kilda
11 - Armstrong - Melbourne

 

[Hodgy]

ok fair enough re your own view but what makes you think our team agrees with that?

I doubt we would be sniffing around pick 2 if we thought they are taking Tauru. It will be interesting to see Cals mock on Monday as he has always been 99% sure of pick 1. If Richmond take FOS instead of Lalor it will affect nearly every other pick in the top 10.

 

[Jack McKraken]

I hope you’re correct about North taking Tauru at 2, as we should stay put at 4 if that’s the case. However I’m not 100% on it, and I get the feeling our team aren’t either.

With all the contradictory news reports going around about who is into who (we were hot on Langford for the last two weeks, now cold for eg) I think the clubs at the pointy end are all waiting to see who blinks first

 

[spenze]

Imagine if North pick FOS, Carlton pick Draper and we call out Tauru..

Hamish hell loves himself an undersized KPD, I get scared the guys won't be able to catch him before he gets the microphone

 

[WaynesWorld19]

but Dees got the benefit? so why would Saints do that?

Because they didn’t want use that 1st round pick on Kayo … so they converted #9 into F1 and later picks in this draft

Bluffed into trading out of a SuperDraft …..i don’t believe Dedoro would have as easily been bluffed

 

[Jack McKraken]

He's not a super kick for goal from the set shot.

Except that one time.......

I was with a Pear supporting mate on the Hill that game. We had a perfect view of the ball weaving its magic. How quickly elation went to deflation for him (and vice versa for us!)

 

[Hodgy]

What about the highest metres gained and score involvements player this year ?

Well Brodie Smith averaged the 3rd most metres gained for us this year. Not a knock on Langford btw, who is a really good prospect, but it doesn’t really tell the whole story. Burst from stoppage is the biggest trait that is lacking in our midfield atm, and Langford isn’t going to be that.

 

[Cromulant]

Because they didn’t want use that 1st round pick on Kayo … so they converted #9 into F1 and later picks in this draft

Bluffed into trading out of a SuperDraft …..i don’t believe Dedoro would have as easily been bluffed

He just puts together overrrated lists.

 

[Crow till I die]

Hamish hell loves himself an undersized KPD, I get scared the guys won't be able to catch him before he gets the microphone

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Funny thing is, with Fog and Thilthorpe, Tauru would fit like a glove into our structure with ANB, Rachele and Keays buzzing around at their feet

But I digress.....midfielder please

 

[GROTTO]

I doubt we would be sniffing around pick 2 if we thought they are taking Tauru. It will be interesting to see Cals mock on Monday as he has always been 99% sure of pick 1. If Richmond take FOS instead of Lalor it will affect nearly every other pick in the top 10.

I think the key to this draft is if North take Tauru at 2.

It will be a lock that we get Draper at 4, as Carlton will choose either FOS or Lalor depending who the Tigers take over Draper.

 

[119others]

Because they didn’t want use that 1st round pick on Kayo … so they converted #9 into F1 and later picks in this draft

Bluffed into trading out of a SuperDraft …..i don’t believe Dedoro would have as easily been bluffed

sorry i meant why would SAINTS bluff when they didnt get the benefit? Dees got the benefit - so what incentive was there for Saints to help the Dees out?

 

[119others]

I think the key to this draft is if North take Tauru at 2.

It will be a lock that we get Draper at 4, as Carlton will choose either FOS or Lalor depending who the Tigers take over Draper.

we are all guessing but my gut feel is they take Draper. Thats a lot of the recent speculation. Voss flies over this week to interview for 3/4th time.

Blues need pace in midfield - the missing piece as Dow failed - and also the most immediately beneficial player

Gut feeling - if Draper is there at 3, Blues take him

Would I put money on that - yes. Would I put much money on that - well no haha

 

[Disco Fox]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/2024-afl-mock-draft-live/video/a51f48796fedc2ffa5563c2fbbf20a8c

Top 11
1 - Ashcroft - Brisbane (bid matched)
2- Lalor - Richmond
3 - Taru - North Melbourne
4 FOS - Carlton
5 - Draper - Crows
6 - Smith - MElbourne
7- Smile - Richmond
8 - Langford - St Kilda
9 - Lombard - Gold Coast (bid matched)
10- Travaglia - St Kilda
11 - Armstrong - Melbourne

The Age have claimed they've spoken with 13 recruiters & list managers & come up with this order(with disclaimers on every pick, because they say it's a wide open draft):
Rich - Lalor
NM - Tauru
Carl.- Smith(that's a new twist!)
Ade. - Draper(if Draper gone they state that Crows are strong on Smith & Langford)
Melb. - Langford
Bris. - Ashcroft(surely a club is going to bid on him earlier - what is this, Queensbury Rules?!!)
Rich - Smillie
St.K - FOS (wow!! could he slip this far?)
St.K - Travaglia

And then I nodded off.

 

[Mostyn]

Isn’t he list manager? Surely he is wholly responsible for the list. Like the GM in an NFL team.
For the record I think ANB was worth what we paid, however players like Bailey Smith were worth a lot more than Geelong paid so it is possible. If we had tried everything to keep 25, but had to cave at the end I would have no gripe. But when people say Reid is a tough bugger then sorry, I have to disagree.

How did you feel about the Dawson deal?

About Peatling?

I think we were happy to offer 28, didn't want to **** around to get a pick a couple of spots lower, and Melbourne didn't want to fuss around to try and get something better.

So much of trade week is a waste of time, it's good to occasionally see two sides just do the obvious deal.

I understand the frustration that we never seem to get an absolute steal - like Geelong or Richmond ripping off GCS or WCE - but that doesn't mean this was a bad deal.

 

[Crow till I die]

SEN's 2024 AFL full Phantom Draft

Draft expert Nathan Sepe makes his predictions for every selection in the 2024 AFL National Draft.

www.sen.com.au

Jagga at pick 1 to Richmond according to SEN. That would not surprise me in the slightest for reason I have mentioned before.

 

[Mostyn]

I doubt we would be sniffing around pick 2 if we thought they are taking Tauru. It will be interesting to see Cals mock on Monday as he has always been 99% sure of pick 1. If Richmond take FOS instead of Lalor it will affect nearly every other pick in the top 10.

We're sniffing around pick 2 because North want Tauru and could get him at 4.

But if we stay at 4, there's a big chance we lose out on Draper to Carlton, and he seems to be our number one target.

 

[Mostyn]

Because they didn’t want use that 1st round pick on Kayo … so they converted #9 into F1 and later picks in this draft

Bluffed into trading out of a SuperDraft …..i don’t believe Dedoro would have as easily been bluffed

Wait - they got a future first AND the picks they needed for Kako by trading pick 9?

That's not terrible at all.

 

[Mostyn]

I think the key to this draft is if North take Tauru at 2.

It will be a lock that we get Draper at 4, as Carlton will choose either FOS or Lalor depending who the Tigers take over Draper.

Didn't C4 say Carlton have met with Draper multiple times in the last week, and the word is they're very interested?

I'd rather Draper over FOS, so I get it.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Is this the same HS article? Because if it is, why do they have us taking Draper in their mock, yet are saying we are making a play for Jagga

 

[Mostyn]

Is this the same HS article? Because if it is, why do they have us taking Draper in their mock, yet are saying we are making a play for Jagga

The word "might" is doing a lot of work there.