Rumour 2022 Rumour Discussion Thread

[Scorpus]

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[Draft Bored]

Magic round is almost as dumb as adding a 19th team instead of relocating one of the 10 that reside in a single state.

 

[Carmo]

Only problem I can see is if it's wet. Magic round in NRL was up here in the middle of a big rain event. ALL games were played at Suncorp stadium. This was one of the headlines:

"Magic Round just became aquatic round: Why you should never play eight NRL games at the same venue"​

Actually, this is the only reason I can see that you would do it in SA. Lowest chance of a weather stuff up. Get it off to a good start so that the following year when you have it in Tas or NT and its a wet freeze or sweltering tropical slugfest, the patrons cut you some slack.

 

[Jetafl]

And who's paying for it?

That's ''Magic" for ya.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Ok, he doesn’t do much with the speed he possesses.

Also not true

 

[LeftyLuke]

Ok, he doesn’t do much with the speed he possesses.

He just doesn't possess much footy IQ. For example compare him to Soligo who oozes footy smarts. Jones has none.

 

[crow2crow]

Imo you can see if someone has good instincts.
To me he doesn’t look like he does at all.
I don’t think he’s got great skills either.
Just have a look at the afl site and his stats are basically all below average or average.
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cam rayner was like this he is only just starting to break out now

 

[Truck25]

cam rayner was like this he is only just starting to break out now

Rayner would be No1 on the whipping boy hit list if he played for the Crows

 

[FR0GGY]

Also not true

I guess that would be reflected in the best and fairest from the coaches then?

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

I guess that would be reflected in the best and fairest from the coaches then?

no not necessarily. He has things to work on but i don't think all your match up with that

 

[Golumless]

I have more confidence in Chayce, than Ned .....that's not to say Ned can't be a permanent team member ....but he's walking a tight rope ATM

I'm the other way. Ned has a best 22 role locked down, whereas Chayce has struggled to cement himself in a pretty easy role to look good in.

Ned might eventually get done in by a change in how Adelaide structures up, whixh is the tightrope all role players walk. Chayce doesn't even look like at this point he'll get that far. The Mackay comparision is rather apt at this point, he's an AFL quality footballer on paper, not in practice.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Rayner would be No1 on the whipping boy hit list if he played for the Crows

Christian Petracca says hi.

Had 4.5 VERY ordinary seasons (taken Pick 2 in the draft!) before starting to show promise in 2020....

Sometimes they take time..

 

[LeftyLuke]

I'm the other way. Ned has a best 22 role locked down, whereas Chayce has struggled to cement himself in a pretty easy role to look good in.

Ned might eventually get done in by a change in how Adelaide structures up, whixh is the tightrope all role players walk. Chayce doesn't even look like at this point he'll get that far. The Mackay comparision is rather apt at this point, he's an AFL quality footballer on paper, not in practice.

I have no faith in Ned or Chayce. They were both bad picks which most likely won't be on our list in a couple of years.

 

[MRB37]

Apart from kicking efficiency, which looks like a contested player's efficiency, that just looks like someone who is not getting enough of the ball.

Which is the point. He would be a much better player if he hunted the ball a bit more, but that seemed to be coached out of him in 2020ish.

Only had 1 game in his career where he's got 20 or more disposals and had as many games with 16+ disposals this year as he did games where he had single digit disposals. Much like I feel with Hamill, and as Milera has showed at times, the raw tools are there, but if you never get a chance to use them then it's not much good.

 

[Betts are off]

Any late mail in the draft day rumour front?

I'd be surprised if we did anything drastic, but also admit they have thrown some secret curveballs in the last few years that can't let me get too comfortable

 

[crow2crow]

I'm the other way. Ned has a best 22 role locked down, whereas Chayce has struggled to cement himself in a pretty easy role to look good in.

Ned might eventually get done in by a change in how Adelaide structures up, whixh is the tightrope all role players walk. Chayce doesn't even look like at this point he'll get that far. The Mackay comparision is rather apt at this point, he's an AFL quality footballer on paper, not in practice.

Ned is not even best 26 next year

 

[Panther Blood]

I have no faith in Ned or Chayce. They were both bad picks which most likely won't be on our list in a couple of years.

Bookmarked.

 

[FR0GGY]

Christian Petracca says hi.

Had 4.5 VERY ordinary seasons (taken Pick 2 in the draft!) before starting to show promise in 2020....

Sometimes they take time..

Petracca at least looked like he could football.
His first 4 seasons he had 20 or more disposals 5,9,15 and 10 times
Chayce in his first 4 years has had ONE game with 20 disposals.
Pretty sure Petraccas problem was fitness and workrate, these are not issues with Chayce.

 

[Ramify]

Bookmarked.

Why? I'm mean which one, both or neither?

 

[Scorpus]

Rayner would be No1 on the whipping boy hit list if he played for the Crows

If I had pick 1 I'd be super disappointed having used it on Rayner

 

[Ramify]

Petracca at least looked like he could football.
His first 4 seasons he had 20 or more disposals 5,9,15 and 10 times
Chayce in his first 4 years has had ONE game with 20 disposals.
Pretty sure Petraccas problem was fitness and workrate, these are not issues with Chayce.

Chayce just gos to water with ball in hand too often and isn't very good at knowing where to be. You can see him thinking through his plays before he gets there - this is pure self doubt.

He's gotten better at both areas over the past 2 seasons. I don't think he's the next Petracca, but I don't think he's a complete write-off just yet.
He's shown enough glimpses for me to believe there's a possible player in there somewhere. He has more "natural" abilty than a few of our front line players.

They should throw him in the same course Fog did and get Rahilly to whisper to him.

 

[Panther Blood]

Why? I'm mean which one, both or neither?

I believe they will be both fine players for us. We NEED a Ned for starters. An antagonist, an energiser bunny who reminds me of Ballantyne. He will be used when the side matures in various roles. Absolutely a must in any side. I'm tired of us being pretty nice and respectful, * that. He's got it, shyte Ballantyne had a short kick too ... give the little terrier a break ..

We play Jones for a very good reason, he runs off, has a nice kick and is NOT one paced, as some know-it-all's seem to think. As the side gets better, he will develop into a fine midfield minder when the opposition rest them in the forward line. He also has good vision. Which provides him with skills to mind very good players around the ground.

I am not going to write anyone young off. You need to give them time to mature, to learn. The space, skill-set and RULES of underage competitions are VASTLY different to stepping up to what I call League 1.

I'm not actually out of any of our youngsters, including McAsey.

It's called RE-BUILDING.

As a supporter base, we've never been through one.

Come at me .....

 

[1970crow]

It's the AFL's way of increasing the #rounds per season ......initially make it a one-off event .....it's called getting one foot in the door .....all in support of the new media rights (note timing) .....and contrary to the AFLPA wanting a shorter season

It also aligns with their strategy of keeping the AFL I’m the news throughout the off-season. They’ve manufactured an ongoing story out of sheer nothingness. As a marketer, you should bask in their glow. The logistics are unimportant, the discussion is all that matters.

 

[George Kramer]

I believe they will be both fine players for us. We NEED a Ned for starters. An antagonist, an energiser bunny who reminds me of Ballantyne. He will be used when the side matures in various roles. Absolutely a must in any side. I'm tired of us being pretty nice and respectful, * that. He's got it, shyte Ballantyne had a short kick too ... give the little terrier a break ..

We play Jones for a very good reason, he runs off, has a nice kick and is NOT one paced, as some know-it-all's seem to think. As the side gets better, he will develop into a fine midfield minder when the opposition rest them in the forward line. He also has good vision. Which provides him with skills to mind very good players around the ground.

I am not going to write anyone young off. You need to give them time to mature, to learn. The space, skill-set and RULES of underage competitions are VASTLY different to stepping up to what I call League 1.

I'm not actually out of any of our youngsters, including McAsey.

It's called RE-BUILDING.

As a supporter base, we've never been through one.

Come at me .....

So in essence what you are saying is every youngster will make it, so we should stop judging them.

McHenry doesn’t have Ballantynes goal sense, smarts or skills. Pain in the arse and short are their only similarities, problem is McHenry is missing the good stuff. If we just wanted a pain and hard worker we should have kept Riley Knight and used the first rounder on a decent player.

As for Jones if he can develop some awareness, poise and smarts he could make it. That may come with experience. But for a pick 9 that’s a big price to pay for the player you’ve described when we are we are screaming for midfielders and we watch Butters play well in the midfield.

As for McAsey, good luck.

 

[Golumless]

Ned is not even best 26 next year

If you want to embrace that fantasy, go for it.

There is only one thing that pushes Ned out and that is if Keays get pushed out of the midfield. I'm skeptical that occurs in 2023, though he might lose that spot in the '23 offseason. Beyond that though, Neds spot is safe this year. There is nothing external that pushes that change as he avoids being in competition with Rankine, Taylor and Pedlar.

After all, the losers of this offseason were Murphy and Rowe.

I have no faith in Ned or Chayce. They were both bad picks which most likely won't be on our list in a couple of years.

Ned is tracking alright to get a 100-120 game career at Adelaide which is a solid return from a 10-20 pick, though could easily end up a journeyman type player if he gets ousted from our lineup. Always a few teams who could use cheap small forward depth. Firmly a meh tier pick.

Jones right now is a bad pick. 4 years in and hasn't even locked down a role player position does not bode well for someones career.

 

[Danger in Texas]

I'm the other way. Ned has a best 22 role locked down, whereas Chayce has struggled to cement himself in a pretty easy role to look good in.

Ned might eventually get done in by a change in how Adelaide structures up, whixh is the tightrope all role players walk. Chayce doesn't even look like at this point he'll get that far. The Mackay comparision is rather apt at this point, he's an AFL quality footballer on paper, not in practice.

Yeah this is my view. Ned at least seems to have some kind of niche, whereas Jones struggles for any kind of consistency in that wing position, to the point of almost never getting above 20 touches in a game by the age of 22