Preview 2023 Goodbye (To 2024) New; Preseason Discussion

[Ford Fairlane]

Ollie looks like he has trimmed down.

 

[gbear]

Head of Physical Performance Stuart Graham speaks to the media at Alberton Oval.

Clearly stinkers is in hiding.

 

[manureid]

Over the past few weeks I've just had this growing feeling in my bones that we're set for a bit of a step backwards this year. Just feel like the Hinkley era malaise after a high finishing year will again hit us next year, and we'll bomb out of the 8. Don't have significant reason, it's just a gut feel.

Just wish we had a new coach and that spark of enthusiasm we need to take that next step on and off field as a club.

Well it isnt a contract year for the coach, so nothing on the line.

 

[Ah12]

The whole team seems to have slimmed down. Charlie looks unrecognisable in videos. It appears to be a running game the last few years so i like the thought process.

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

Head of Physical Performance Stuart Graham speaks to the media at Alberton Oval.

I enjoy the Will Lorenz shoutout at the end - getting through the intensity of the preseason camp with minimal fuss sounds like we've got a lot to build from with him as he puts size on. Might be a sneaky chance to debut this year... We're always looking for good delivery.

 

[davesnothere]

If Lorenz goes Ok we do play good kids early and there's a spot on the wing nobody owns.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Good to hear positive news on a lot of guys like Wines, Burgoyne, Farrell and Horne-Francis.

 

[Coobk001]

Good to hear positive news on a lot of guys like Wines, Burgoyne, Farrell and Horne-Francis.

Yep, I liked hearing about the fitness work Burgoyne and JHF had put in. Burgoyne is a really important player for us going into this year.

 

[Ralph Lorenz]

Head of fitness bullish about all players on January 8th. Terrific, exactly what I want to hear.............. Oh wait

 

[Peninsula Boy]

I know it's preseason and I know it's the Fitness Coach but it was refreshing to have a press conference without hyperbole, ducking and weaving, broad promises and your generic propaganda.

Just a straight down the line assessment of how the boys have come back, how they are travelling and a few names who are doing well. Simple, humble stuff.

 

[Willsy10]

Because Hinkley’s job is safe until 2025, there’s going to be no incentive for us to win in 2024.

I guarantee you we won’t win as many close games as we did last year.

I disagree. I'm very confident that if we don't make finals in 2024 he won't be coaching in 2025. i'm not sure why i feel it will be different this time but i think that he has run out of excuses now.

He was given far too much time and patience between 2015-2019 because of 2013-2014 (even though we didn't even make a GF). And then after two pretty good years 2020-2021 (albeit still no GF/premiership) 2022 was treated as an aberration and for most of 2023 it probably looked that way.

I just can't see him getting away with another 2022.

 

[Schulzenfest]

I disagree. I'm very confident that if we don't make finals in 2024 he won't be coaching in 2025.

People have been saying this since 2018 lol

 

[Willsy10]

People have been saying this since 2018 lol

Very true, but it still feels different this time for me. The demotion to the bench and Hinkley crying after Swans win, and carrying on like a pork chop after every win from there until he got his contract suggested to me that he was under more pressure in 2023 than he had ever been before. Plus we only gave him the bare minimum 2 year deal (you don't seem to come across many 1 year deals) and there has been enough noise around Josh Carr and succession plans/coach in waiting to suggest that there is probably some truth to that too.

 

[PowerLil]

Very true, but it still feels different this time for me. The demotion to the bench and Hinkley crying after Swans win, and carrying on like a pork chop after every win from there until he got his contract suggested to me that he was under more pressure in 2023 than he had ever been before. Plus we only gave him the bare minimum 2 year deal (you don't seem to come across many 1 year deals) and there has been enough noise around Josh Carr and succession plans/coach in waiting to suggest that there is probably some truth to that too.

That "crying" after the Sydney game was oscar nomination material. His wipe away of "tears" was so perfectly timed too, right on cue - when the camera was on him.

 

[Marmozet]

I’m so proud of the fact that I yelled out “Fcuk off Hinkley” after that Swans win.

Bloke next to me asked who I would get to replace him and I straight away told him Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

47

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

, so for me it’s now go Richmond and Yze!

 

[Coobk001]

I still don't understand how anyone was excited at the end of the Sydney game. It was like being the best loser. We gave up the lead once in the dying minutes, then in a position where we had the game absolutely won we somehow gifted them an end to end transition and easy mark inside 50. It was all just horrendous stuff. Match losing stuff. The fact we got lucky and they couldn't make the distance didn't suddenly take away from the fact we completely fluffed it. Was the worst win I can remember.

 

[Marmozet]

I still don't understand how anyone was excited at the end of the Sydney game. It was like being the best loser. We gave up the lead once in the dying minutes, then in a position where we had the game absolutely won we somehow gifted them an end to end transition and easy mark inside 50. It was all just horrendous stuff. Match losing stuff. The fact we got lucky and they couldn't make the distance didn't suddenly take away from the fact we completely fluffed it. Was the worst win I can remember.

I was in the stands that night, and after copping the worst abuse I’ve ever received in all my years of supporting this club from a bunch of w***ers that most likely weren’t even Swans fans, I really enjoyed the moment where I was able to turn and give it right back to them as they stood speechless.

Hinkley stuff aside, it was like enjoying a win over North Melbourne purely because of the way their fans carried on over JHF.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Because Hinkley’s job is safe until 2025, there’s going to be no incentive for us to win in 2024.

I guarantee you we won’t win as many close games as we did last year.

There is a definite malaise when trying to work out how we will do next year.

There is the unfortunate history of the team playing for the coach and they did so "admirably" last year but playing for your coach doesn't really allow you to win, just keep your job. So the team technically has no real reason to provide any extra impetus as the coach is back on year one of a new contract and coasting on easy street. This is a huge red flag that our form will dip considerably next year.

However, the team finished 3rd last year and internally has gargantuan room for improvement with the likes of Wines, Bergman, Lachie Jones, Soldo, Ratugolea, Zerk-Thatcher, Burgoyne, Georgiades, Sinn and Lord and you never know who else. Also, our four top players of Rozee, Butters, Horne-Francis and Houston are all match winners. We also have a new, young, bold leadership group filled with our best players.

I get the feeling it might take a bit of time for new players or players adjusting to an unfamiliar role but after that, we should be moving forward.

If we had a new coach, the excitement meter would be on 10 bars.

 

[manureid]

There is a definite malaise when trying to work out how we will do next year.

There is the unfortunate history of the team playing for the coach and they did so "admirably" last year but playing for your coach doesn't really allow you to win, just keep your job. So the team technically has no real reason to provide any extra impetus as the coach is back on year one of a new contract and coasting on easy street. This is a huge red flag that our form will dip considerably next year.

However, the team finished 3rd last year and internally has gargantuan room for improvement with the likes of Wines, Bergman, Lachie Jones, Soldo, Ratugolea, Zerk-Thatcher, Burgoyne, Georgiades, Sinn and Lord and you never know who else. Also, our four top players of Rozee, Butters, Horne-Francis and Houston are all match winners. We also have a new, ,young, bold leadership group filled with our best players.

I get the feeling it might take a bit of time for new players or players adjusting to an unfamiliar role but after that, we should be moving forward.

If we had a new coach, the excitement metre would be on 10 bars.

At the moment I can't even get half a bar.

 

[bomberclifford]

At the moment I can't even get half a bar.

Half a dozen fresh oysters followed by a medium-rare Filet Mignon will fix that.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

At the moment I can't even get half a bar.

I set them up and you knock them down.

 

[RangaInTeal]

Wines and who?

 

[Peninsula Boy]

I know it's preseason and I know it's the Fitness Coach but it was refreshing to have a press conference without hyperbole, ducking and weaving, broad promises and your generic propaganda.

Just a straight down the line assessment of how the boys have come back, how they are travelling and a few names who are doing well. Simple, humble stuff.

I can't believe how quickly Rucci's article annihilated my sentiments.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Wines and who?

Xavier Walsh isn't it?

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[Capital Power]

Can we stop fuelling the "we finished third" mantra as justification for anything? Spoiler alert - we didn't, and even if we had have, it's still a fail...