List Mgmt. 2023 List Management and Trading

[martyparty]

Himmelberg the brother

Sorry Kid, just saw your post after I’d posted. (Great minds think alike? )

 

[spenze]

So I guess that begs the question, if we did have a hypothetical warchest and you could throw $1-1.2M/year at a player this offseason, who are you throwing it at?

Hollands

 

[spenze]

Gotta pay the kids already there though

Watch us sign multiple players up




Early

Better get a big contract in front of Ned, be embarrassing to lose another first rounder back home

 

[Bearded Clam]

I was just listening to Sensible Crow who was listing off the FA's this upcoming offseason, and dare I say it, but do we have a potential Warchest situation a brewing in the salary cap?

Sloane: $900+
Crouch: $450ish
Doedee: $600ish
Fish: $350ish
Hopefully not, but Tex: $700ish

Considering only 2 of those players are in my current round 1 team, it's actually very rosy picture of the state of the club IMO.

Doibt tex would still be on $700ish.. reacon it wouldve dropped down to $500 max when he re-signed last year.

But yeah.. Sloane is going to free up a heap of space and if Doedee and crouch end up departing there’s going to be another heap of coin available there too..

Definitely in a healthy position salary cap wise.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Hollands

And himmelburgs bro..

And that lad from essendon as a smith replacement. (His name escapes me at the minute)

The only problem with Hollands is that he is contracted still until the end of next year.. so it would cost us bigtime at the trade table.

The other two, as FA’s, wouldnt cost us anything apart from cap space.

 

[spenze]

And himmelburgs bro..

And that lad from essendon as a smith replacement. (His name escapes me at the minute)

The only problem with Hollands is that he is contracted still until the end of next year.. so it would cost us bigtime at the trade table.

The other two, as FA’s, wouldnt cost us anything apart from cap space.

Mason Redman is the one you are thinking of and as much as I rate him, I just don't see the point of going after him, it is not where we need to be cashing dollars in. Himmelberg is a good pick up though, GWS don't have huge manoeuvring room so the contract won't need to be ridiculous to get him out ,plus he hates Josh Kelly ( rumoured to be a waffle stomper) so we should be able to get him.

As for Hollands or any other young mid gun, contracts are a one way street, we should be throwing money to 1) get an elite mid and 2) force us to have to trade our first before Hamish pisses it up against a wall.

 

[Rags_118]

Mason Redman is the one you are thinking of and as much as I rate him, I just don't see the point of going after him, it is not where we need to be cashing dollars in. Himmelberg is a good pick up though, GWS don't have huge manoeuvring room so the contract won't need to be ridiculous to get him out ,plus he hates Josh Kelly ( rumoured to be a waffle stomper) so we should be able to get him.

As for Hollands or any other young mid gun, contracts are a one way street, we should be throwing money to 1) get an elite mid and 2) force us to have to trade our first before Hamish pisses it up against a wall.

Josh Kelly ‘allegedly’ poos in the showers?

 

[MRB37]

With Smith getting on and Doedee yet to sign on, we could be short some experience in defence. Harry Himmelberg looks like a good fit.
As he turns 28 next year, what would the optimum number of years for a HH/Crows contract be? And what do you think would be the minimum years contract required to get him here?

4+ at a minimum most likely. Which makes it questionable to offer him a deal.

 

[martyparty]

4+ at a minimum most likely. Which makes it questionable to offer him a deal.

Unfortunately you could be right.

 

[MRB37]

Unfortunately you could be right.

I imagine you could possibly work the money around to be largely frontloaded, but as the younger players start working towards their 2nd or 3rd deals our ability to do that to an extreme degree probably lessens somewhat.

 

[Betts are off]

Gotta pay the kids already there though

Watch us sign multiple players up




Early

Not sure how many of those kids are getting dramatic contract raises from what they are already on though. It would certainly take a slice out of the cap, but the beauty of our list is most the youth are still role players, and probably not demanding huge interest elsewhere quite yet.

That might change by round 24 this year, but as it stands I suspect most the kids will be getting only modest bumps when the re-sign.

 

[GreyCrow]

Not sure how many of those kids are getting dramatic contract raises from what they are already on though. It would certainly take a slice out of the cap, but the beauty of our list is most the youth are still role players, and probably not demanding huge interest elsewhere quite yet.

That might change by round 24 this year, but as it stands I suspect most the kids will be getting only modest bumps when the re-sign.

You don't follow Adelaide much

 

[Betts are off]

You don't follow Adelaide much

Well, If that's what you wanna believe then have it.

 

[spenze]

Josh Kelly ‘allegedly’ poos in the showers?

On the GWS board, shouldn't be hard to track down, they have about 8 threads

And yeah, you wouldn't pick it by the way he comes across in interviews so I'd have my doubts but you know, we all have our quirks.

 

[George Kramer]

On the GWS board, shouldn't be hard to track down, they have about 8 threads

And yeah, you wouldn't pick it by the way he comes across in interviews so I'd have my doubts but you know, we all have our quirks.

Did anyone pick it up? If Cotchin was captain he was all about cleaning up.

And how would that news come out?

 

[spenze]

Did anyone pick it up? If Cotchin was captain he was all about cleaning up.

And how would that news come out?

You stomp one waffle

 

[morris086]

So I guess that begs the question, if we did have a hypothetical warchest and you could throw $1-1.2M/year at a player this offseason, who are you throwing it at?

One of Redman or Himmelberg and throw the rest at Hollands.

 

[Betts are off]

Doibt tex would still be on $700ish.. reacon it wouldve dropped down to $500 max when he re-signed last year.

But yeah.. Sloane is going to free up a heap of space and if Doedee and crouch end up departing there’s going to be another heap of coin available there too..

Definitely in a healthy position salary cap wise.

Rumour on Sensible Crow was the McAsey yearly value had a 4 in the front of it too.

And someone else mentioned they believed Seeds was still on a healthy wicket of $500k-ish.

If thats true then squeezing $900k capspace out of those 2 non playing listspots would be like a FA free swing at an A-Grader

 

[George Kramer]

Depending on what Dawson was on we grabbed him, he’d be inline for an increase as our best player and captain

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Did anyone pick it up? If Cotchin was captain he was all about cleaning up.

And how would that news come out?

I didn't know what it was, so i googled it. apparently they stomp down the drain

 

[GreyCrow]

With Smith getting on and Doedee yet to sign on, we could be short some experience in defence. Harry Himmelberg looks like a good fit.
As he turns 28 next year, what would the optimum number of years for a HH/Crows contract be? And what do you think would be the minimum years contract required to get him here?

3/4

 

[spenze]

3/4

3 year 2.4 would put him out of GWS reach, would have to get our entire playing list to sign a stat dec on never waffle stomped though, it appears to be a line in the sand for Himmelberg

 

[GreyCrow]

3 year 2.4 would put him out of GWS reach, would have to get our entire playing list to sign a stat dec on never waffle stomped though, it appears to be a line in the sand for Himmelberg

HH would get a 3 year deal if he stayed but to move him would require 4 - thats where some creative accounting may help

 

[spenze]

HH would get a 3 year deal if he stayed but to move him would require 4 - thats where some creative accounting may help

Lack of skidmarks in the shower stalls may help him forget a 4th year

 

[rabidcrow]

Rumour on Sensible Crow was the McAsey yearly value had a 4 in the front of it too.

And someone else mentioned they believed Seeds was still on a healthy wicket of $500k-ish.

If thats true then squeezing $900k capspace out of those 2 non playing listspots would be like a FA free swing at an A-Grader

Sloane contract finishes this year? A fair bit to be saved there as well


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