List Mgmt. 2023 List Management thread - Pt2 Now With Added Wailing & Gnashing of Teeth

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Order

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Order, aka Future Picks

Spoiler: Blue Tick Rumours

 

[Lach72]

Sheeeit that cost a bit but whatshisface must’ve committed to them

 

[G Mus]

Unless we finish near the bottom again or both us and port miss finals, both first round picks probably isn’t enough for McDonald, I feel like that port pick might be used to get into the first round this year

 

[Van_Dyke]

We really havent taken a gamble, I feel like I need to sticky this. We will not lose this trade on value, it is almost impossible

but snuff I want shiny new toys and I want them now

 

[Sully90]

but snuff I want shiny new toys and I want them now

 

[pK75]

Also possible that GC want to hide picks with Futures and we can trade future firsts to buy their Dogs picks.

This, reckon we have a deal already lined up with GC to trade Port F1 + something for pick 10 from the bulldogs.

 

[Rob]

I like the idea of death riding Port for the year. Hope we keep the pick.

 

[Rockmelon]

Unless we finish near the bottom again or both us and port miss finals, both first round picks probably isn’t enough for McDonald, I feel like that port pick might be used to get into the first round this year

Might be able to bundle them together and move to the top of the drat just the doggies did this year

 

[Rob]

This, reckon we have a deal already lined up with GC to trade Port F1 + something for pick 10 from the bulldogs.

Suns won't want to trade their current year picks. They need the points

 

[Joao]

Unless we finish near the bottom again or both us and port miss finals, both first round picks probably isn’t enough for McDonald, I feel like that port pick might be used to get into the first round this year

He'll be OOC.

Unless he kicks 80 goals next year, he's not worth more than that.

 

[Ge3ks]

Sheeeit that cost a bit but whatshisface must’ve committed to them

3 firsts for pick 4 ?!

Wowsers.

 

[freo_leo29]

I really dont see how it can backfire, what's the absolute worst it can be?

Pick like 20+ for 27 and 27ish


If we finish about same spot and port finish prems

 

[Joao]

3 firsts for pick 4 ?!

Wowsers.

Pick 4 would want to be a damn good player.

 

[Taylor]

Suns won't want to trade their current year picks. They need the points

They only need the points at the moment a bid is made on their players. They can hide picks until after bids and then get back into the first round.

 

[freo_leo29]

3 firsts for pick 4 ?!

Wowsers.

17 was eaten up anyway so those late picks pay for 17

So it's really 2 firsts, likely 2 Teens firsts for 4, decent deal if they don't fall in a heap next year

 

[Lach72]

Suns won't want to trade their current year picks. They need the points

They should be able to trade 10 into next year and make it work easily

 

[nurries]

I cringed a little bit when I first read it, but then I remembered the million bids + compensation picks coming before 22.

Worst case is we finish last and Port win the flag where we pay pick ~30 for a 1 spot upgrade.

The potential upside is massive.


I think you can keep Treacy if Jackson moves out of the forwardline permanently (mid/wing/ruck/unicorn mode whatever).


There are no guarantees, but there is much more scope for this to be amazing for us compared to bad for us. The only outright bad would be them playing in a GF and us finishing bottom 3. Everything outside that is fine.

Finishing last will mean we will need as many first rounders as we can. So it’s a win win

 

[Taylor]

17 was eaten up anyway so those late picks pay for 17

So it's really 2 firsts, likely 2 Teens firsts for 4, decent deal if they don't fall in a heap next year

It's three first round picks traded for one pick, worked for both parties but arguably Dogs are all in now.

 

[Joao]

Finishing last will mean we will need as many first rounders as we can. So it’s a win win

I think Snuffaluphagus is right, this is a no-lose situation even if we finish last and they win the flag (which is outlandishly unlikely).

Just shows you how ****ed the draft is with all the compensation and bids really.

 

[freo_leo29]

Freo were keen on duursma but he wouldn't come to Perth

Per Tom Morris on tradio

 

[freo1997]

Port have a knack for dropping down the ladder post good seasons.

 

[fnerd]

So 100% confirmed St Kilda being campaigners. STRAP YOURSELVES, WE GOING TO WAR OVER LIAM HENRY

Why are you surprised?….
I said SOS and Allen are campaigners and would be very much so on this trade (only confirmed by CTD on SOS in relation to our club the other day).

There’s nothing theyve ever done at trade time over their careers that would’ve said otherwise

 

[Rob]

3 firsts for pick 4 ?!

Wowsers.

Not even pick 4....at least 5 with compo incoming.

Dogs must have someone in mind, or they want pick 1

 

[wakojako]

We really havent taken a gamble, I feel like I need to sticky this. We will not lose this trade on value, it is almost impossible

Okay sure we will win trade on value but can we ignore the trade calculator for a second. We are gambling on the following:
1. L Mac will not re-sign with Sydney
2. L Mac will sign with Fremantle
3. L Mac will be worth the trade
4. We can land Collard (assuming we want him and we would be stupid not to) with the f all picks we have

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Pick like 20+ for 27 and 27ish


If we finish about same spot and port finish prems

23 -> McKay, Walters, Read, Rogers, Croft, McCabe, Gresham -> Pick 30

We could finish last and our future 2nd pick is already pick 21.

It would probably just about cost pick 30 to move from 21 to 18.

We cant lose that trade, we draw even in the insanely small scenario they win the flag and we finish last

 

[freo_leo29]

It's three first round picks traded for one pick, worked for both parties but arguably Dogs are all in now.

Yeah but it's 2 first rounds when you get croft back in as part of the deal