List Mgmt. 2023 List Management thread - Pt2 Now With Added Wailing & Gnashing of Teeth

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Order

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Order, aka Future Picks

Spoiler: Blue Tick Rumours

 

[purplerunsdeep2]

Future second also


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[andreww90]

I don’t mind it, considering pick 22 probably slides back to after pick 25 anyway.

Have to get the absolute maximum out of the Liam Henry deal to hopefully still bring in a good player this year.

 

[Only Forwards]

I sincerely hope that your death ride of the Port Power football club is a raging success.

I hope they fall off the face of the earth and you wind up with a top 5 pick.

 

[Taylor]

Would you trade pick #29 and pick #30 for pick #12?

 

[freo_leo29]

Gotta admit, some Hamling compo would've been handy now lol

We will definitely package up picks on draft night to gold coast, probably not upto 17 tho

 

[wakojako]

Gee we will have nothing this draft. Collard is a goner I reckon now, can’t see how we get near him.

Yeah we better have something up our sleeves. Why would you be trading for the future when you have present needs that need to be addressed.

 

[freo_leo29]

Would you trade pick #29 and pick #30 for pick #12?

Yeah it's a good trade

It can obviously backfire like this year but it's worth the risk

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Yeah it's a good trade

It can obviously backfire like this year but it's worth the risk

I really dont see how it can backfire, what's the absolute worst it can be?

 

[Alfonz]

2x 2nds for a late first? Port aren't going to drop much next year and we'll probably finish between 6-12.

Looks like it favours Port at face value.

Play around with the draft pick calculator. The key thing to remember is our 22 this year is going to be about 30 in reality. Then plug in picks in the 20-30ish range to add to that.

I think it is pretty fair. Hence why it was done so quickly.

If it falls in Port's favour, it's only about pick 40 in value at worst (e.g. 18 versus 30+25), and that ignores the premium first rounders have over the simple points value comparison. More reasonable scenarios would be about pick 50-60 in value.

If they end up falling and we rise up the ladder, it could work out in our favour, but again by only pick 40-60 value unless they really fall off a cliff and we do the opposite.

 

[ilikepotatoes]

I'm starting so find it hard to see how we don't end up with Logan McDonald after this trade, the rumours from the ITKs on this board and Ryan Daniels running with it in the news.

Can we play all of Jackson, Treacy, Amiss and McDonald or does Treacy get pushed out? Or does Jackson spend a lot of time in the middle.

 

[wakojako]

Would you trade pick #29 and pick #30 for pick #12?

You can't tell the future. This board always talks about how good Port's midfield is so why wouldn't they carry them throughout next year? We have pressing needs in a small forward and there is one available from our state this draft. We aren't guaranteed to get L Mac next season so we have taken a big gamble.

 

[Lach72]

Nek minute Port 2024 Premiers

Dockery

 

[Lach72]

Still Port finishing 6th or below and we’ve made out like bandits there.

 

[Lach72]

Something around 20 for Henry and I’ll be happy as Larry with that

 

[Joao]

I cringed a little bit when I first read it, but then I remembered the million bids + compensation picks coming before 22.

Worst case is we finish last and Port win the flag where we pay pick ~30 for a 1 spot upgrade.

The potential upside is massive.

I'm starting so find it hard to see how we don't end up with Logan McDonald after this trade, the rumours from the ITKs on this board and Ryan Daniels running with it in the news.

Can we play all of Jackson, Treacy, Amiss and McDonald or does Treacy get pushed out? Or does Jackson spend a lot of time in the middle.

I think you can keep Treacy if Jackson moves out of the forwardline permanently (mid/wing/ruck/unicorn mode whatever).

You can't tell the future. This board always talks about how good Port's midfield is so why wouldn't they carry them throughout next year? We have pressing needs in a small forward and there is one available from our state this draft. We aren't guaranteed to get L Mac next season so we have taken a big gamble.

There are no guarantees, but there is much more scope for this to be amazing for us compared to bad for us. The only outright bad would be them playing in a GF and us finishing bottom 3. Everything outside that is fine.

 

[Alfonz]

You can't tell the future. This board always talks about how good Port's midfield is so why wouldn't they carry them throughout next year? We have pressing needs in a small forward and there is one available from our state this draft. We aren't guaranteed to get L Mac next season so we have taken a big gamble.

If we want Collard (which I hope we do), I would assume the plan is to use whatever we get for Henry. Still a gamble.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

You can't tell the future. This board always talks about how good Port's midfield is so why wouldn't they carry them throughout next year? We have pressing needs in a small forward and there is one available from our state this draft. We aren't guaranteed to get L Mac next season so we have taken a big gamble.

We really havent taken a gamble, I feel like I need to sticky this. We will not lose this trade on value, it is almost impossible

 

[Taylor]

Also possible that GC want to hide picks with Futures and we can trade future firsts to buy their Dogs picks.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I cringed a little bit when I first read it, but then I remembered the million bids + compensation picks coming before 22.

Worst case is we finish last and Port win the flag where we pay pick ~30 for a 1 spot upgrade.

The potential upside is massive.

Not even a 1 spot upgrade, the future 2nd is ALREADY two spots back with North compo

 

[Dockeroo]

What it does do is removes all the bullshit picks and FA compo from negatively affecting us both this year and next.

That’s a real win.

We need to send 44, 52 and 60 to someone for a second round pick around 30 (maybe hawks) and try draft at least one half decent player.
Then draft another with the Henry pick.
If edwards fell to 41, he could be out third. Job done.

 

[Joao]

Just thinking, how are the Port melts about trading F1 to get their targets?

Not even a 1 spot upgrade, the future 2nd is ALREADY two spots back with North compo

**** totally forgot about that.

Yeah, we can't lose, the worst we could do is break even.

 

[DragoDelph]

Plus, if Sydney decide to deal on LMcD this year, unless we get a F2 back somewhere, can only use 1x of those first rounders.

 

[MadMundy]

People complaining like we aren't going to trade in a top 20 pick this year, come on guys.

 

[Sully90]

I'm starting so find it hard to see how we don't end up with Logan McDonald after this trade, the rumours from the ITKs on this board and Ryan Daniels running with it in the news.

Can we play all of Jackson, Treacy, Amiss and McDonald or does Treacy get pushed out? Or does Jackson spend a lot of time in the middle.

Can't see a team with McDonald and Treacy in it unless Jackson is permanent midfield.

 

[Ge3ks]

How will Port use our pick 22? Will that get them Esava?