Training 2023 Preseason + training discussion

[Righteo]

It may surprise people that there is a wide difference of opinions and recommendations even among doctors.

 

[sherrif]

It may surprise people that there is a wide difference of opinions and recommendations even among doctors.

I've battled a condition that gets called chronic fatigue for the last 2 years and I battled and recovered from the condition about a decade ago after battling fatigue issues for 2 years then. People think that there is an illness called chronic fatigue when in reality its a title thats given when doctors realise you are medically fatigued but don't really know the exact reason. My condition is believed to be linked to a run of flu viruses I had over a period of years so my immune system got worn down. My point is that Ive seen dozens of doctors and there is a massive range of opinion on how to treat many different illnesses. So its best to say that any doctor would make an informed decision about their own Covid precautions so it would be best to let them decide what's right for them.

 

[DocT]

surely a doctor knows that its unavoidable if you want to live a normal life though

Players are supposed to not have a beer indoors at a venue anymore?

Or hug their kids!

 

[Joose]

SSP hopefuls to continue on at Dockers

Fremantle will continue to trial a pair of rookie hopefuls when pre-season returns at Cockburn this week.

thewest.com.au

According to this article Liam Serong and Stubbs will continue as train on players into the new year. Also interesting is that the club had asked the AFL for special permission to add Jed Hagan as a third play on.

"Fremantle had also shown a bit of interest in tough East Fremantle utility Jed Hagan, asking the AFL for special permission to get him on as a third SSP train-on

Hagan has since joined Port Adelaide’s SANFL side after his shock draft snubbing".

 

[Purple Jesus]

Nice of the AFL to admit we have the equal hardest draw with the reigning premiers.

 

[King Huskii]

Nice of the AFL to admit we have the equal hardest draw with the reigning premiers.

Yet Freo finished 5th
Go figure

 

[pK75]

Nice of the AFL to admit we have the equal hardest draw with the reigning premiers.

Don’t get me started on the FIXture again. The AFL.com formula only looks at who teams play twice, no mention of the fact we now have 11 interstate games instead of 10 due to the gather round, and of the 3 other finalists from last year that we only play once, two are away, against Collingwood and Melbourne. The only finalist we don’t play away to this year is Richmond.
So to sum up, 11 interstate games and 6 are against last years top 8 teams.
We will definitely have earned it if we play finals again this year.

 

[88mph]

Oh my lord.

Came here to see stories of Amiss jumping on Pearce's head and Henry kicking from 60m to set sail.

Enough COVID, MORE circle jerks please.

 

[Channels]

Nice of the AFL to admit we have the equal hardest draw with the reigning premiers.

Meh, if we want to be the best, the draw shouldn’t be a concern.

 

[Sturty2Hurty]

I've battled a condition that gets called chronic fatigue for the last 2 years and I battled and recovered from the condition about a decade ago after battling fatigue issues for 2 years then. People think that there is an illness called chronic fatigue when in reality its a title thats given when doctors realise you are medically fatigued but don't really know the exact reason. My condition is believed to be linked to a run of flu viruses I had over a period of years so my immune system got worn down. My point is that Ive seen dozens of doctors and there is a massive range of opinion on how to treat many different illnesses. So its best to say that any doctor would make an informed decision about their own Covid precautions so it would be best to let them decide what's right for

Did you end up finding a solution? Chronic fatigue is a bitch

 

[Taylor]

Meh, if we want to be the best, the draw shouldn’t be a concern.

It's a nice thought but if we look at the 2012 Sydney flag everyone will see that they have a premiership cup, not that they played GWS twice for a combined winning margin of 157 in a season where two wins split first to sixth on the ladder. Without that extra GWS belting Sydney could have been 6th instead of 3rd at the end of the season.

So again, everyone sees the premiership cup - nobody sees the path to it.

But let's take it down a step, what about just making finals. Let's look at 2012 again and North Melbourne that finished 8th after playing four games against the Giants and the Suns with neither side recording a win in history going into round one that year. Finished on the same number of wins as Fremantle who played both of those free hit sides just the once each.

Should a side like Gold Coast play finals this year and then go back to being rubbish the AFL will point at playing finals as the team being reasonable, even if they gave them six double ups against the bottom six sides to ensure the outcome.

Point is, it's hard enough to progress through finals and nobody remembers who had the easier ride getting there so I'd rather not have to get the ring to mordor the hard way first.

 

[Joao]

The draw does look hard, but we don't yet know which teams rise and fall. Could end up worse, could be substantially better than it looks now.

I'm confident that if we are at least as good as 22, then we'll play finals.

 

[DocT]

It's a nice thought but if we look at the 2012 Sydney flag everyone will see that they have a premiership cup, not that they played GWS twice for a combined winning margin of 157 in a season where two wins split first to sixth on the ladder. Without that extra GWS belting Sydney could have been 6th instead of 3rd at the end of the season.

So again, everyone sees the premiership cup - nobody sees the path to it.

But let's take it down a step, what about just making finals. Let's look at 2012 again and North Melbourne that finished 8th after playing four games against the Giants and the Suns with neither side recording a win in history going into round one that year. Finished on the same number of wins as Fremantle who played both of those free hit sides just the once each.

Should a side like Gold Coast play finals this year and then go back to being rubbish the AFL will point at playing finals as the team being reasonable, even if they gave them six double ups against the bottom six sides to ensure the outcome.

Point is, it's hard enough to progress through finals and nobody remembers who had the easier ride getting there so I'd rather not have to get the ring to mordor the hard way first.

All good points Taylor. I do think that we can make a case that on balance Freo have significantly tougher draws than average. On the other side of the ledger we might say that playing quality teams can only accelerate our development if indeed we want to win a premiership. As they say, you learm more from your losses than from your wins.

 

[Sully90]

It's a nice thought but if we look at the 2012 Sydney flag everyone will see that they have a premiership cup, not that they played GWS twice for a combined winning margin of 157 in a season where two wins split first to sixth on the ladder. Without that extra GWS belting Sydney could have been 6th instead of 3rd at the end of the season.

So again, everyone sees the premiership cup - nobody sees the path to it.

But let's take it down a step, what about just making finals. Let's look at 2012 again and North Melbourne that finished 8th after playing four games against the Giants and the Suns with neither side recording a win in history going into round one that year. Finished on the same number of wins as Fremantle who played both of those free hit sides just the once each.

Should a side like Gold Coast play finals this year and then go back to being rubbish the AFL will point at playing finals as the team being reasonable, even if they gave them six double ups against the bottom six sides to ensure the outcome.

Point is, it's hard enough to progress through finals and nobody remembers who had the easier ride getting there so I'd rather not have to get the ring to mordor the hard way first.

Well hopefully we beat Eagles by a combined 157 points this year.

 

[Joao]

Well hopefully we beat Eagles by a combined 157 points this year.

We also have the Hawks twice. Could be bountiful if they are a few injuries to remaining senior players. That said, can also see those campaigners beating us.

 

[Purple Suit]

The draw does look hard, but we don't yet know which teams rise and fall. Could end up worse, could be substantially better than it looks now.

I'm confident that if we are at least as good as 22, then we'll play finals.

I don’t think it can get much worse once the season starts. Our double ups are either against the top teams who can only really go down or the very bottom teams who are rebuilding. Bulldogs the outlier but we match up well against them and will have extra motivation thanks to Lobb.

I recon at season end our draw won’t be considered equal hardest.

 

[Joao]

I don’t think it can get much worse once the season starts. Our double ups are either against the top teams who can only really go down or the very bottom teams who are rebuilding. Bulldogs the outlier but we match up well against them and will have extra motivation thanks to Lobb.

I recon at season end our draw won’t be considered equal hardest.

Agree on Dogs. Genuinely wouldn't surprise me if they won the flag but we do have a decent record.

 

[theGav56]

Well hopefully we beat Eagles by a combined 157 points this year.

Yes. Playing GWS twice is not a great example of the luck of the draw. We may be marginally more difficult than we should be, but it remains astonishing that Carlton's draw can be so out of kilter.

Injury management, squad depth and development, and balancing the midfield to forward equation will all play a part in our 2023 journey before the draw becomes a factor. Fyfe being fit and healthy may be more significant. Perhaps Taberner.

 

[Sully90]

Yes. Playing GWS twice is not a great example of the luck of the draw. We may be marginally more difficult than we should be, but it remains astonishing that Carlton's draw can be so out of kilter.

Injury management, squad depth and development, and balancing the midfield to forward equation will all play a part in our 2023 journey before the draw becomes a factor. Fyfe being fit and healthy may be more significant. Perhaps Taberner.

I'm never much fussed in what the looks like prior to the start of the season other than to check how many blockbuster games we have.

 

[pK75]

I recon at season end our draw won’t be considered equal hardest.

Of course it won’t, us beating Geelong, Sydney, Brisbane & bulldogs twice but only Melbourne, Collingwood, Richmond, Carlton, St Kilda and Port once will have a profound effect on the top 8 by the end of the season, it doesn’t mean it was easier, just that the teams we only defeated once will be higher up the ladder at season end.

 

[Nodgey]

It’s not a draw. It’s a fixture. Draws by their very nature are random.

 

[Purple Suit]

It’s not a draw. It’s a fixture. Draws by their very nature are random.

It's drawn up. I get to call it a draw if I want.

 

[Hammersoup]

Any training today?

 

[King Huskii]

Well hopefully we beat Eagles by a combined 157 points this year.

I'm hoping more. They are complete rabble.

 

[Docker82]

I'm hoping more. They are complete rabble.

Honestly I don't think they'll be too terrible this year.

Their supporters are delusional thinking their youth doesn't need 2-3 more drafts and 4-5 more years to be a top four side imo. But their 30+ year olds when fully fit should make them competitive enough.

Happy just to get the four points as much as possible. The derbies are no much more than two wins imo. Only difference is it's very difficult to put up with their ****wit supporters once a year (attending an away derby would be too much for me).