Preview 2023 Rd 12 Carlton vs Melbourne Friday June 2 7:50PM @ MCG

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Team is in …





IN: Alex Cincotta, Zac Fisher

16

Zac Fisher

Age

26

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

, Lochie O'Brien

4

Lochie O'brien

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.9

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

3star

CL

0.7

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.4

4star

CL

1.0

3star

, Jack Silvagni

1

Jack Silvagni

Age

26

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

, Lewis Young

33

Lewis Young

Age

25

Ht

202cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

197.9

3star

D

4.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

26.0

1star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.2

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

181.6

3star

OUT: Corey Durdin (knee), George Hewett

29

George Hewett

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

10.3

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

3.3

5star

D

13.8

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

9.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.4

3star

(concussion), Ollie Hollands (collarbone), Nic Newman

24

Nic Newman

Age

31

Ht

186cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

13.7

5star

HB

5.9

4star

M

5.5

5star

T

3.3

5star

MG

400.8

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

MG

157.0

3star

D

22.4

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

9.6

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

3.6

5star

MG

387.8

5star

(hamstring), Marc Pittonet

27

Marc Pittonet

Age

28

Ht

202cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

2.9

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

22.3

5star

D

8.6

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

3.7

5star

HO

25.9

5star

D

5.8

2star

K

1.2

1star

HB

4.6

4star

CL

2.4

5star

HO

16.6

5star

(hand), Ed Curnow

AFL team changes: Five ins for Friday

Carlton has named five returnees for Friday night football.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Alex Cincotta	Jacob Weitering	Brodie Kemp
Half-backs:	Lewis Young	Mitch McGovern	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Sam Walsh
Half-forwards:	Jesse Motlop	Charlie Curnow	Jack Silvagni
Forwards:	Zac Fisher	Harry McKay	Matthew Owies
Followers:	Tom De Koning	Matthew Kennedy	Adam Cerra
Interchange:	Jordan Boyd	Matthew Cottrell	Sam Docherty
	Lochie O'Brien
Emergencies:	Ed Curnow	Paddy Dow	Lachie Fogarty
	Lachie Plowman

 

[carlton_99]

Fish kicked ass in the first half then backed off was horrific the game before that, JSOS was dead set poor then avg, LOB did sweet * all.

I watched the game. Fisher was clearly best on. JSOS' kicking was poor but everything else was great in a new role (+ with Pittonet out) we needed the height. If Pitt was healthy JSOS and Young prob have more time in the 2s but you can't have TDK solo against Grundy/Gawn. LOB I'm not a massive fan of but Dow isn't competing with him for a wing spot. Would have preferred Binns but I understand taking a bit longer with him.

 

[Show_Me_The_Money]

Ed the sub again

Priceless.


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OMGGGGG. The sub with the least potential to make any impact. We must be a laughing stock.

 

[Show_Me_The_Money]

If Ed Curnow is the sub again im done for the year

Seeya! I dont think I'm far behind!

 

[Lukeblueboy]

oh well, will see what this side dishes up on the weekend?
I wanna see them desperate, hungry, angry!

 

[Cringle]

I remember Teague being shocking with the team selections too.

It’s like they don’t realise what they’re doing isn’t working.

And then ‘blindsided’ when they’re sacked.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

O’Brien being picked over Binns is astonishing

No Dow isn’t a surprise but it doesn’t make it any less frustrating. I hope that Dow has a mega successful career at a club that actually wants him and believes in him

Yeah this is lost in the Dow stuff. Why aren't we rewarding our best and most consistent performers at VFL level? Cincotta is the only one in who actually deserves to go up. Whilst I believe Fisher is good enough and required he hasn't played all that well. Binns should be playing.

Selection integrity all over the shop.

 

[BM123]

You can squib all day, jog around, butcher the ball, never defend, never tackle, miss every easy goal and still get a game at Carlton. No need to earn your spot at a team playing bottom 3 football.

But if you actually try to get selected they'll laugh at you. Zero selection integrity and I'm guessing Voss or someone else at Carlton has some petty vendetta against Dow.

Paddy didn't get the memo from Voss I guess. Having a go is looked down upon at Carlton. Dow needs to learn how to coast with the rest of the pretenders in the seniors before he gets a chance. For a side that doesn't have any pace you'd think we'd give the one guy with any ability to sprint out of a stoppage a go.

Nah lets hope Cripps as our sole hope isn't smashed by his opponent again. That's really worked so far this season.

Can't wait to see Kennedy at HBF flank again.

 

[kingkingston]

Pick players who have consistent form, not play one good reserves game and they are back in. Carlton is constantly killing themselves at the selection table. Lewis Young

33

Lewis Young

Age

25

Ht

202cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

197.9

3star

D

4.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

26.0

1star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.2

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

181.6

3star

did nothing last week to warrant getting selected. Dow better be the sub, he deserves at least that.

 

[Pablito]

I think if Ed is the sub again it'll change my view of Voss drastically.

 

[carlton_99]

Can't wait to see Kennedy at HBF flank again.

To be fair this would happen if Dow was in the team because he can only play as an inside midfielder.

 

[Arr0w]

Could say Dow, for sure, could also absolutely say club.

Likely a little of both.

However, you could have guessed these ins from Mars.

Same boring s**t.

It’s whatever at this point.

Dow might come in if Crippa doesn't get up, but he isn't going to replace Walsh, Kennedy, Cerra, Cripps, Doc

 

[macky99]

This club is broken.

Paddy - don't even try anymore, the club clearly treats you like garbage. Collect your weekly cheque and count down the days till you leave.

Pathetic Carlton. Selection integrity is zero. Sums up where we are.

Agree totally Voss & his assistants need a good hard look at themselves.
l have seen a player like this essentially black listed.
We are going no where with this outlook.

Hope Paddy is successful at his new club and shows how poorly we are managed.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

I remember Teague being shocking with the team selections too.

It’s like they don’t realise what they’re doing isn’t working.

And then ‘blindsided’ when they’re sacked.

Teague imo likely knew he was a dead coaching wallking in the final few weeks of his tenure.

No matter what happens for the rest of the season, from all reports Voss won't be sacked before or after the season ends.

 

[macky99]

Dow might come in if Crippa doesn't get up, but he isn't going to replace Walsh, Kennedy, Cerra, Cripps, Doc

Tired of these excuses it is just rinse & repeat players dropped & then brought back.
Could name half dozen players he should have a opportunity before, we are not short on under performing players.

 

[BM123]

"No selection integrity" yet the INs were amongst our best in the VFL game last week...Dow has never come in when we have had one mid out this season - not sure why people were expecting it. If the Cerra appeal was unsuccessful probably a different story.

They played witches hats last week in the VFL.

Against genuine opposition the week before Fisher sooked it up.

Effort means nothing at Carlton at the moment.

 

[Warsaw]

The doubling and tripling down of the same crop players is just so infuriating.

Had a renewed sense of enthusiasm going into this one because I figured we’d likely see Dow and Binns make the side and potentially see a spark come from somewhere else.

If Voss is telling us that this is the group that will run his game plan and only this group, then shit there’s more on the line for this game than just 4 points.

 

[teddy-hopkins]

Dow might come in if Crippa doesn't get up, but he isn't going to replace Walsh, Kennedy, Cerra, Cripps, Doc

Do you ever disagree with something the club does?

 

[bigblueboy]

Once Cerra was cleared and Cripps fit there was almost no chance Dow would be selected.
No matter how many possessions he racks up at VFL level, he’s not in front of any of the mids which have been selected - or Docherty who Voss seemingly loves playing as a primary mid.
On the Docherty front, I’m still baffled that we can’t see how it’s impacted our turnover and transition game since he’s been taken out as a primary half back.
Would have preferred Binns over O’Brien.
It’s possible Young and JSOS switch ends this week … Melbourne’s changes make them quite small in the forward line even if Grundy/Gawn play every minute.
Selection displays conservatism and defensiveness rather than releasing the shackles. Not sure naming 8 defenders is going to solve our problems.

 

[JustaBattler]

Blues currently bottom 4 in goals kicked and goal assists - Melbourne Top of the league for goals and second for assists.
Simple targets - team needs to get to kicking 3-4 goals a game more than it is currently achieving....otherwise goodnight Irene.
Most of the damage is Conversion % - I can't find a teams-wide stat for that on footywire.

 

[carlton_99]

They played witches hats last week in the VFL.

Against genuine opposition the week before Fisher sooked it up.

Effort means nothing at Carlton at the moment.

Even if you forget about the VFL game last week not once has Dow come into the team in 2023 when a single mid is out. Why would we start now when less inside mids and less poor users is what we actually need. Plus if Dow was to come in don't we want him to get an extended run - people would be lynching Voss if they got him in and then dropped him the week after for Hewett. Dow is not going to be at the club in 2024 is what's been clear since last year when we told him to explore his options - we need to move on imo

 

[BlueVision]

In regards to Paddy Dow

15

Paddy Dow

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

, I am actually embarrassed by the way he has been treated by our club.

Do the MC need a memo that respect also needs to apply to the playing group?

 

[HarryFlashman]

Dow might come in if Crippa doesn't get up, but he isn't going to replace Walsh, Kennedy, Cerra, Cripps, Doc

Doc isn’t a midfielder

 

[myblueroan]

What about the 2nd half Michael????

O’Brien being picked over Binns is astonishing

No Dow isn’t a surprise but it doesn’t make it any less frustrating. I hope that Dow has a mega successful career at a club that actually wants him and believes in him

Yes.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Reckon we will win tomorrow just quietly.
The Dees have been struggling themselves and have no Clarry (who normally destroys us) plus their forward line is not exactly going great guns.

Selection politics and controversies aside, I feel pretty damn bullish about our chances.


CMON BAGGERS

 

[Arr0w]

Tired of these excuses it is just rinse & repeat players dropped & then brought back.
Could name half dozen players he should have a opportunity before, we are not short on under performing players.

Name them

Do you ever disagree with something the club does?

Every week.

I wouldn't have Kemp in the side at the moment, but with the injuries in the backline I understand it.

Jsos is another I wouldn't have based on his output and effectiveness


Do you ever agree with something the club does?