List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread II - Goldy&Bucket➡️✅/'24 EoFR & #44➡️Stephens&#25✅/#21&#25➡️Fisher&#17✅/'24 EoFR➡️#18✅

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Order

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Order, aka Future Picks

Spoiler: Blue Tick Rumours

 

[The acurate one]

have strong interest in pint-sized mid-forward Nick Watson.

WOW!! I'm fairly sure referring to Dinkers as pint sized is derogatory.
But I maybe I'm mistaken.

 

[giantroo]

 

[TruRoos7]

So for donuts like me sitting here going "well, idk" .... sooo, we can pick him whenever, but are not able to match a bid under 40 if someone else bids on him? The reason then we're after 2,3 and 5?

It’s the only option if we want Sanders is otherwise take him at 2, 3 (if MaGoo goes and we get it).

We need to get 5 which screws over a chance to trade for 1 using that capital of 2 and 11 for 1…

 

[Jimmy's Hot Dogs]

Can someone explain this please? My trade talk to English translator is offline.

COULD SHIEL BE PART OF GRESHAM DEAL?

The recruiting world is abuzz with anticipation about whether St Kilda can find a way to secure first-round compensation for free agent Jade Gresham

11

Jade Gresham

Age

27

Ht

177cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.4

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

7.2

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

17.5

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.0

3star

G

0.5

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.4

5star

G

0.4

3star

.

He is not worth the $750,000 a year he would need to be paid by a rival over three seasons to trigger first-round compensation.

The open question is whether the AFL would approve a separate St Kilda-Essendon trade for a second player who might transfer from the Dons to the Saints.

Essendon’s Dylan Shiel

9

Dylan Shiel

Age

31

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.6

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

23.4

5star

K

13.6

5star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.2

2star

T

3.4

4star

CL

6.4

5star

D

19.8

5star

K

8.4

4star

HB

11.4

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

3.8

5star

is a player of interest for the Saints given his hard run and explosiveness, so there is some chance he could be on the move.

The Dons said last month he was a required player, but Darcy Parish

3

Darcy Parish

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.4

5star

K

9.2

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

3.3

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

9.1

5star

M

1.4

2star

T

2.0

3star

CL

3.1

4star

D

22.2

5star

K

7.6

3star

HB

14.6

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

’s re-signing means there is a logjam of Essendon mids.

So Gresham to Essendon as a mid-forward and Shiels to St Kilda might be a win-win for both clubs.

Dylan Shiel

9

Dylan Shiel

Age

31

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.6

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

23.4

5star

K

13.6

5star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.2

2star

T

3.4

4star

CL

6.4

5star

D

19.8

5star

K

8.4

4star

HB

11.4

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

3.8

5star

is a player of interest to St Kilda. Picture: Russell Freeman/AFL Photos via Getty Images
Dylan Shiel

9

Dylan Shiel

Age

31

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.6

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

23.4

5star

K

13.6

5star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.2

2star

T

3.4

4star

CL

6.4

5star

D

19.8

5star

K

8.4

4star

HB

11.4

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

3.8

5star

is a player of interest to St Kilda. Picture: Russell Freeman/AFL Photos via Getty Images
St Kilda would secure a first-round compo pick for Gresham (currently pick 13) and also improve its playing stocks by handing a draft pick to the Dons, who could give Ben Hobbs and Elijah Tsatas more midfield time.

But the AFL would need to approve both deals as fair value.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2023-latest-trade-news-jacob-koschitzke-requests-trade/news-story/64a464240d031f50a34ebe7644963982

 

[New_Roo]

Nope

Yes in gettable said North no longer a chance to get Sanders via NGA


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[TruRoos7]

So are we that confident of either Cherry|CCJ or getting another ruck in?

Sad if Goldy goes but it’s a job and more pay = better retirement..

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

For sure, and I have no idea how much of that was attributable to his fitness, his attitude, or playing in an unfamiliar role.

I do think the forward mix is going to be a really interesting watch next year. We can't play all of Zurhaar, George, Curtis, and Stephenson at the same time, particularly when Sheezel and Thomas are locks. Who takes precedence?

Depending on fitness, in order of importance:

1) Larkey
2) Thomas
3) Zurhaar
4) Ford
5) Curtis
6) George

While Jy and Sheez will no doubt spend time forward, I’m hoping they spend the majority of their minutes in the guts and on the wing.

 

[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

Can someone explain this please? My trade talk to English translator is offline.
COULD SHIEL BE PART OF GRESHAM DEAL?

The recruiting world is abuzz with anticipation about whether St Kilda can find a way to secure first-round compensation for free agent Jade Gresham.

He is not worth the $750,000 a year he would need to be paid by a rival over three seasons to trigger first-round compensation.

The open question is whether the AFL would approve a separate St Kilda-Essendon trade for a second player who might transfer from the Dons to the Saints.

Essendon’s Dylan Shiel is a player of interest for the Saints given his hard run and explosiveness, so there is some chance he could be on the move.

The Dons said last month he was a required player, but Darcy Parish’s re-signing means there is a logjam of Essendon mids.

So Gresham to Essendon as a mid-forward and Shiels to St Kilda might be a win-win for both clubs.

Dylan Shiel is a player of interest to St Kilda. Picture: Russell Freeman/AFL Photos via Getty Images
Dylan Shiel is a player of interest to St Kilda. Picture: Russell Freeman/AFL Photos via Getty Images
St Kilda would secure a first-round compo pick for Gresham (currently pick 13) and also improve its playing stocks by handing a draft pick to the Dons, who could give Ben Hobbs and Elijah Tsatas more midfield time.

But the AFL would need to approve both deals as fair value.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2023-latest-trade-news-jacob-koschitzke-requests-trade/news-story/64a464240d031f50a34ebe7644963982

Some shenanigans to overpay Gresham to get St Kilda band one. Then St Kilda would get Shiel cheap, possibly with Bombers paying some of his contract. Shouldn't be allowed.

 

[Twangler]

Can someone explain this please? My trade talk to English translator is offline.

COULD SHIEL BE PART OF GRESHAM DEAL?

The recruiting world is abuzz with anticipation about whether St Kilda can find a way to secure first-round compensation for free agent Jade Gresham.

He is not worth the $750,000 a year he would need to be paid by a rival over three seasons to trigger first-round compensation.

The open question is whether the AFL would approve a separate St Kilda-Essendon trade for a second player who might transfer from the Dons to the Saints.

Essendon’s Dylan Shiel is a player of interest for the Saints given his hard run and explosiveness, so there is some chance he could be on the move.

The Dons said last month he was a required player, but Darcy Parish’s re-signing means there is a logjam of Essendon mids.

So Gresham to Essendon as a mid-forward and Shiels to St Kilda might be a win-win for both clubs.

Dylan Shiel is a player of interest to St Kilda. Picture: Russell Freeman/AFL Photos via Getty Images
Dylan Shiel is a player of interest to St Kilda. Picture: Russell Freeman/AFL Photos via Getty Images
St Kilda would secure a first-round compo pick for Gresham (currently pick 13) and also improve its playing stocks by handing a draft pick to the Dons, who could give Ben Hobbs and Elijah Tsatas more midfield time.

But the AFL would need to approve both deals as fair value.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2023-latest-trade-news-jacob-koschitzke-requests-trade/news-story/64a464240d031f50a34ebe7644963982

Nup completely nonsensical

 

[chubbspeterson]

Can't wait to hear oppo supporters lose it at Saints getting pick 13 for Gresham.... Gresham!!!
Oh no wait it's only when it's North.

 

[TruRoos7]

Some shenanigans to overpay Gresham to get St Kilda band one. Then St Kilda would get Shiel cheap, possibly with Bombers paying some of his contract. Shouldn't be allowed.

It’s * and the Aints it will be approved unlike us getting to match a bid on an NGA as a PP option..

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Hahahahahahaahahahhahahahahahahaha

Why would we go to all that trouble I wonder

It’s embarrassing from all directions.

 

[New_Roo]

I dont think he cares anymore.
He wants to play AFL and knows he's stuck behind even more key forwards after this years draft.

Going to crows won't help... tex might only have one but still have Thil and Fogs


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[Kangaroos4eva]

Why add him to the nga if we couldn’t bid on him before 40?

Makes zero sense from the afl if they did that. Looks like we may get to bid on him after all.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Can someone explain this please? My trade talk to English translator is offline.

COULD SHIEL BE PART OF GRESHAM DEAL?

The recruiting world is abuzz with anticipation about whether St Kilda can find a way to secure first-round compensation for free agent Jade Gresham.

He is not worth the $750,000 a year he would need to be paid by a rival over three seasons to trigger first-round compensation.

The open question is whether the AFL would approve a separate St Kilda-Essendon trade for a second player who might transfer from the Dons to the Saints.

Essendon’s Dylan Shiel is a player of interest for the Saints given his hard run and explosiveness, so there is some chance he could be on the move.

The Dons said last month he was a required player, but Darcy Parish’s re-signing means there is a logjam of Essendon mids.

So Gresham to Essendon as a mid-forward and Shiels to St Kilda might be a win-win for both clubs.

Dylan Shiel is a player of interest to St Kilda. Picture: Russell Freeman/AFL Photos via Getty Images
Dylan Shiel is a player of interest to St Kilda. Picture: Russell Freeman/AFL Photos via Getty Images
St Kilda would secure a first-round compo pick for Gresham (currently pick 13) and also improve its playing stocks by handing a draft pick to the Dons, who could give Ben Hobbs and Elijah Tsatas more midfield time.

But the AFL would need to approve both deals as fair value.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2023-latest-trade-news-jacob-koschitzke-requests-trade/news-story/64a464240d031f50a34ebe7644963982

Oh god both of these teams trying to out-Scott themselves is hilarious.

They are hurtling towards a cliff with their lists and they don’t even k is it.

 

[TruRoos7]

Just got email it’s offical Toddy is gonski

 

[New_Roo]

Sad.

Surely means we have someone else lined up


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[TruRoos7]

Why add him to the nga if we couldn’t bid on him before 40?

Makes zero sense from the afl if they did that. Looks like we may get to bid on him after all.

Agreed but maybe it’s some sort of 10th dimension chess move by the AFL…

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Agreed but maybe it’s some sort of 10th dimension chess move by the AFL…

Maybe, lol.

It is not like they are doing it to troll us either.

 

[viccles]

It’s official

 

[Disco Dew]

 

[Passmore]

No we can’t if he is part of our NGA, we don’t have the ability to match bids inside the top 40 unlike GC and GWS unless the AFL changed the rules..

Have a think about it.

 

[Ashley B]

Todd has been a loyal and great servant but it’s time for our new leaders to lead and take the reins.

 

[TruRoos7]

Have a think about it.

Yes we can still take him but it costs us a pick we don’t have or we have to use pick 2 or MaGoo compo if it’s 3, is Sanders worth 2 or 3 is my point.

He isn’t a top 2 or 3 player and we aren’t guaranteed to get GC pick and the Dawks could still take Sanders at 4 even if we did get GC pick.

 

[Rod Stroker]

I'm of the belief that Xerri is not the answer for our number 1 ruck. Sure he's had injuries, but for the games he's been on the park, he hasn't come close to dominating a single game either as a ruck or forward. He doesn't have it. We need a capable ruckman ASAP. We need to not waste this rare talented group of mids (with more to come), and give them the best opportunities of getting their hands on it.