Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[cryptor]

I don't think players like to use the PSD because it's a small industry and you don't want to burn bridges. And generally when players move it's not because of a falling out with their old club (eg. Brockman).

In the case of Bailey Smith

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Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

it sounds like a situation where the PSD threat (from his side) could be real next year. I wonder if that possibility will creep into the mind of the Dogs decision makers.

They'll also want to consider that if Smith is set on Hawthorn that our trade capital available for the deal this year is more than likely going to be greater than what we have next year when they also have less leverage.

 

[daniel23]

Ffs it’s a hypothetical trade thread, I’m sure there’s some more serious thread for you somewhere here!

Newcombe for pick 1
Will day for pick 2 + Callum Coleman Jones to solve our key forward issue .

Is that better ?

The biggest takeaway besides our improved form this year is how close the group has become , every player that's been interviewed talks about it and cj is a massive part of that group from 18-24. He is also the exact player when fit will suit Mitchell's game plan.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

JOM
Titch
Chad
Lake

We've had some good info on our boards. It's always prefaced by the "confidence", but you can't expect anything to be 100%.

Stratton captaincy well before it was announced.

Coniglio deal all the way through - including Blues being confident Hawks would sign him and they knew were never in the running, also including it collapsing at the death thanks to Gil's dirty dollars.

Martin to the Blues.

Actual picture from the Blues "war room" when they were all together having a meeting regarding trades.

Plus more.

This was information that I had personally received that originated from two different sources from the Hawks and Blues. I shared this with a few others at the time.

The Hawks-related info received seemed to be coming from a very similar (or same?) source as RnL's that had an impeccable track record.

 

[Hawk the Talk]

There’s been rumblings since the middle of the season that the Dogs would entertain trading Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

. Given they’re clearly open to trading him (regardless of what they’re saying right now). He’s got 1 year left on the contract, which means they’ll be heading down the Dunkley path if they ask for too much. Our Future first + a second round pick with the possibility of a player being included should end up getting it done.

Our future first next year will be projected to be worth more than they got for Dunkley.

 

[kirbatron]

That Geelong are hugely frustrated with him and he is a very high maintenance player? Or just the part where we are one of three clubs chasing him?

that he will depart.

Cleary & Caro are pretty good with their mail.

 

[Gaston]

Smith putting in the hard yards on mad monday...

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It's going to rain today, he shouldn't be near those power lines.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

How many 'A Graders' have these ITK poster got correct in the last 8 years? I can't think of one.

*You chose to not think of one

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Can I please buy a couple of kilos of whatever you’re on ? Seems like some good shiiit

What's wrong with the trade? Seems pretty fair for everyone.

The main question is what is the Haynes GWS salary cap dump actually worth. And what would happen if we trade Brockman, in this instance it would be better to get a future pick from the Eagles.

Doggies lose Smith but gain a F1 and would take 10 and 12 to the draft before using the rest to match a bid on Croft.

They'd essentially have five first rounders in two years instead of maybe three (all depending on where the Croft bid comes in, which seems like it would happen before pick 17).

GWS move off the Haynes contract and still retain a second first rounder. Essentially a pick slide.

Hawks get Smith and Haynes for effectively a F1.

I think I galaxy-brained it for the most part.

 

[ahhhhhh]

 

[BIGHAWK23]

People are forgetting that by next years period we will have the option of trading much further into the future and will also be able to purchase picks

The world of trade and draft will be much more flexible

 

[Hodgey 15]

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[BIGHAWK23]

1. Edmund has a track record similar to Brad Fitzgerald
2. He is reporting info from Friday, prior to being eliminated from from Finals and prior to Smith pulling out from Sickness
3. Dogs enquired about having Cotton On cancel Smith's sponsorship on the basis of contract conflict during the year, has caused angst in the Smith camp

 

[Cyzzametimbres]

Can you hide replies to blocked accounts? I’m sick of seeing pages of replies to some sad sack that I’ve already blocked.

 

[Nugett]

HS article suggesting Cats are going to ask for a future 1st for Ratugolea... seems a bit over the top I'd say?

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And off to Port he goes…

 

[Hodginator]

Don’t mind the idea of getting Smith. Recon Sam would get the best out of him.

But would we rather Smith or the Suns round 1 pick if both cost us the same and we had to pick one or the other.

I probably go with the Suns pick.

 

[Bugs1977]

Fair chance henry ends up at Melbourne.

I heard this too

 

[The hands of stone]

Cats were told by the Dogs they would want two first round picks if they were to trade Smith .
This was yesterday so they are open to trading him but will play hard ball

 

[RoughysMullet]

Not sure about the Liam Henry interest- what role does he play in our side?

Been useless when used as a forward for Freo where we’d need him - he only started coming good when played as a loose half back/mid where we are already stacked…

Wont get my hopes up on Bazlenka- sounds like he’d cost a bit and Floglong are trying to c*ck block us again with property deals like they usually do…

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Cats were told by the Dogs they would want two first round picks if they were to trade Smith .
This was yesterday so they are open to trading him but will play hard ball

Our future first would be better than any two late draft picks the cats could offer.

 

[kenneje]

Our future first would be better than any two late draft picks the cats could offer.

They have pick 8, which will blow out to 10 at least. Might be enough if he nominates them?\

Not getting my hopes up.

 

[jenniferHAWKinS]

We need to squeeze Mackenzie, CJ, Mitchell and B MacDonald into the team so Henry is not a pressing need. Pass

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

They have pick 8, which will blow out to 10 at least. Might be enough if he nominates them?\

Not getting my hopes up.

He wont nominate them.

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[TylerDurden]

He wont nominate them.

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Agree. Got a feeling he'll nominate us soon.

This will get done, but will be last minute of trade period type stuff.

 

[kenneje]

He wont nominate them.

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What makes you say that?
Big if true.

 

[Hawk the Talk]

Don’t mind the idea of getting Smith. Recon Sam would get the best out of him.

But would we rather Smith or the Suns round 1 pick if both cost us the same and we had to pick one or the other.

I probably go with the Suns pick.

I love the idea of being able to have back to back picks in that rage but Smith is a known commodity, which is hard to pass up IMO.