Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[Topiary]

So our trusty friends in the media have us as favourites in the Henry "race". Topiary any mail on whether this is accurate and if so, is the club confident we can get a deal done? Asking a lot I know.

No doubt we have the best chance of doing a deal for Henry.,it depends on what we ultimately get in and what collateral we need to use for McCabe.

 

[lethalselbow]

Ginnivan will be the sub. So best 23.

Ain't the sub. Macrae.

Not best 23.

 

[Burtman]

I really can’t get excited about Liam Henry, just don’t think he has any stand out features. Would actually prefer to play ward and Amon on the wings and bring in ginnivan or Gresham who are at least dangerous forwards

 

[Mopar Jason]

Ain't the sub. Macrae.

Not best 23.

If you look on the Magpies website they list Ginnivan as the sub

 

[lethalselbow]

If you look on the Magpies website they list Ginnivan as the sub

Silly me. AFL website has him our and another as sub.

 

[Howe Amazing]

I really can’t get excited about Liam Henry, just don’t think he has any stand out features. Would actually prefer to play ward and Amon on the wings and bring in ginnivan or Gresham who are at least dangerous forwards

Amon moved to half back towards end of season and he is really good there, great kick. If we can get Henry great but Weddle and CJ might rotate on that other wing to Ward

 

[Steven Tyler]

Come to England for a holiday and eat some of the s**t they pass off as food, no need for a hunger strike.

The English breakfasts go ok

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[Brant]

I really can’t get excited about Liam Henry, just don’t think he has any stand out features. Would actually prefer to play ward and Amon on the wings and bring in ginnivan or Gresham who are at least dangerous forwards

I'd rather we put time into CJ on that wing over Henry.

Of course, I'll support him (Henry) if he arrives, but with Ward, CJ & Weddle all needing homes opposite Amon, I don't see him as a need.

 

[Brant]

Pick 3 for Bailey Smith?

Would want to be Bailey Smith + Pick 10 for Pick 3. Even then...

 

[hawkman]

McClure proving yet again he knows nothing about football

 

[Mopar Jason]

I'd rather we put time into CJ on that wing over Henry.

Of course, I'll support him (Henry) if he arrives, but with Ward, CJ & Weddle all needing homes opposite Amon, I don't see him as a need.

I must admit I don't know a lot about Henry as I rarely tune into Dockers games but I do agree with you that we should try CJ on the wing as he offers speed and agility as well as x-factor

 

[Leather Poisoning]

oh god the finals haven't even started and this is the hypothetical invented crap they're rolling out.

 

[Steven Tyler]

Nah
Too much
Next years first and I’d look at it

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Either Sam is being hoodwinked by somebody inside the club or he's a nuffie who thinks we're dumb enough to give up pick 3 like we're Norf. 1st round pick absolutely but the lower end it will be. Christ he's not prime Dusty.

 

[TylerDurden]

Pick 3 for Bailey Smith?

Would want to be Bailey Smith + Pick 10 for Pick 3. Even then...

Agree. Would be a pick slide. If at all.

 

[Brant]

Nah
Too much
Next years first and I’d look at it

Prefer Naughton

 

[The Chad and I]

I do not see a talent or leader in Smith worthy of pick 3 in this draft, and would be stunned AND disappointed if MM did that trade.
McClure did not sound convincing when he was challenged.

BTW - I have always found Lloyd to be one of the more sensible commentators on the game and he rightly challenged the assertion we are offering pick 3 for Smith. I seriously doubt it.

 

[Davo-27]

I think the evolution of a player is interesting in this case, before his controversy and subsequent poor form, he was a midfielder on the rise and starred in a finals series, im sure he can get back to his best, but I don't know the guy and if he has the drive to get back to his best? But good luck to him, he seems a good bloke.

 

[Mercy Seat]

Either Sam is being hoodwinked by somebody inside the club or he's a nuffie who thinks we're dumb enough to give up pick 3 like we're Norf. 1st round pick absolutely but the lower end it will be. Christ he's not prime Dusty.

Can’t stand “scoop” but he does know Smith well from Xavier coaching. Who knows, could be coming from his camp.

 

[hawkinoz]

I do not see a talent or leader in Smith worthy of pick 3 in this draft, and would be stunned AND disappointed if MM did that trade.
McClure did not sound convincing when he was challenged.

BTW - I have always found Lloyd to be one of the more sensible commentators on the game and he rightly challenged the assertion we are offering pick 3 for Smith. I seriously doubt it.

if Dogs offerred their 2 ast round picks + F1 for our pick 3, will any one of us take the deal. I am not sure.

That's 10+17+ F1 for Pick 3

Which one of the 10+17+ F1 would we give back for Smith. I may do 17 + 48 at best.

 

[Steven Tyler]

Prefer Naughton

I’m pretty “meh” on Naughton
Reckon he’s overrated

 

[Iceman!]

If Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

was a Hawk you would all be talking about him like he is an absolute superstar and untouchable.

He is only 22 years old, almost 100 games notched up already, goal kicking midfielder that hasn't really spent much time as a permanent on baller. the prototype line breaking inside mid that can go forward and have an impact.

Kicking definitely not great but Fyfe, Danger and to an extent Trac have similar issues at time and it never stopped them from being elite.

Now i don't think we should trade pick 3 for him with where we are at but i couldn't blame them for considering it and in terms of pure value it isn't an unfair ask from them.

I genuinely believe that list has underachieved over the last few years in large part to Bevo and i think he is partly responsible for Smith not fulfilling his potential.

 

[MasterSamurai]

Pick 3 untouchable unless we give that and find away to swap our future first to gc for their pick 4. Wed want a 2nd back though.

 

[Brant]

I’m pretty “meh” on Naughton
Reckon he’s overrated

Naughton @ CHB would be a Boss