Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[RX Hawk]

At today's match Riccardi was lazy, selfish and slow ...
I am glad we didn't go very far with him. There is definitely a guardian angel protecting Hawks this week.

 

[Billyc]

Hope Mitchell and MM are looking at Buckley. He’s worth it way more than McKay

Buckley wouldn’t leave Sydney or the Giants

 

[jenniferHAWKinS]

At today's match Riccardi was lazy, selfish and slow ...
I am glad we didn't go very far with him. There is definetely a guardian angel protecting Hawks this week.

Agree, Riccardi just doesn’t do enough. A slight upgrade on Kosi. 8 touches and a goal or 2 versus 7 touches and a goal! People on here want a player for the sake of it. Guys like McKay, Ratugolea, Henry, Gresham and Riccardi are just solid citizens. Can’t believe people on here get so upset when we miss out on B and C graders!

 

[user33]

Agree, Riccardi just doesn’t do enough. A slight upgrade on Kosi. 8 touches and a goal or 2 versus 7 touches and a goal! People on here want a player for the sake of it. Guys like McKay, Ratugolea, Henry, Gresham and Riccardi are just solid citizens. Can’t believe people on here get so upset when we miss out on B and C graders!

He’s an opportunistic forward that benefits from the Giants fast ball movement. No real loss missing him aside from our lack of key position players

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Ash is 100% spot on regarding marquee games. Anzac Day and Dream Time would be a huge pull for any player.

Finals would attract me more

 

[G0ats]

I would take the contract we offered McKay and give it to Buckley from GWS. He would probably take it. I doubt GWS would pay him that give Himmelberg and Taylor would both be getting over $700k each

Buckley is contracted until 2026 and GWS wouldn’t want to trade him.

 

[Howe Amazing]

Will Port get Esava deal done with picks available, we might be waiting in the wings there.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Here’s hoping young Josh Weddle grows another 7 cm over the next year. He could claim chb ….

 

[Howe Amazing]

Buckley is contracted until 2026 and GWS wouldn’t want to trade him.

Buckley in tears after the game shows where he wants to be

 

[HairyO]

So we have missed on a best 22 key defender, our most pressing need and have now moved back a draft spot. Surely everyone can see that as everyone shares the same view that it's a big loss ?

We dont spend the next 6 years paying an avg player $800k a year.

Thats a win.

 

[HairyO]

100 %

Clarksons decision

I called it then

Grandson became and all time swan great

Grandson in his 8th game Carried a depleted hawk mid v Geelong …for all to see but Clarko wasn’t watching

Which midfielder would you have traded to make way for Kennedy?

The correct answer is none. He wanted games and we had better players at the time.

 

[G0ats]

Finals would attract me more

Well we aren’t playing finals for a couple of years.

You’re naive or wilfully ignorant if you think playing ANZAC day isn’t a massive pull for players.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Well we’re aren’t playing finals for a couple of years.

You’re naive or wilfully ignorant if you think playing ANZAC day isn’t a massive pull for players.

He'll be watching from the stands.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Well we’re aren’t playing finals for a couple of years.

You’re naive or wilfully ignorant if you think playing ANZAC day isn’t a massive pull for players.

Finals would attract me and we have a pretty good record returning to finals in a reasonable time frame.

 

[JR33]

Buckley wouldn’t leave Sydney or the Giants

His brother lives in Melbourne, they have Taylor and Himmelberg. Wouldn’t hurt to ask.

 

[HairyO]

Well we aren’t playing finals for a couple of years.

You’re naive or wilfully ignorant if you think playing ANZAC day isn’t a massive pull for players.

Thats garbage. Noone chooses coming 13th and having ANZAC Day over ANZAC Eve and playing finals.

 

[Davo-27]

If I was a player manager and I was dealing with Essendon, I would come to Hawthorn and promise the world then report back to Dodoro to get the deal done on better terms lol, I jest, but it seems we have lost out on a bunch of free agents and trade targets, maybe when we get closer to being a finals team, we can land a couple? good thing sleepy Mark is a good draft recruiter.

Seems like this was the Ben McKay situation?

 

[A Diakos]

Which midfielder would you have traded to make way for Kennedy?

The correct answer is none. He wanted games and we had better players at the time.

Brad sewell

And I said that at the time as well

 

[Topiary]

Seems like this was the Ben McKay situation?

We were played. You can hear his manager saying don’t respond yet, just take the extra and privately thank the HFC.

 

[Brant]

Really need Pick Purchasing to become a thing, ASAP.

I reckon we could land Gresham & buy 2x 1st Rounders if the AFL would get their sh1t together & just make it happen...

 

[daniel23]

Buckley has been through a lot at the giants for anyone that has followed his career, was told he potentially would never play again. He loves the club and would be last on the list to want to play elsewhere. We should look at leek aleer though who will struggle for opportunity when everyone is fit.

 

[Walshawk]

Not fussed about McKay. Prefer now we concentrate on the draft. With Kosi and Brocky going hopefully we can upgrade Pick 29 to inside the top 15 - 20 and a pick before McCabe.

 

[Dewnior]

Consider Melbourne:

In 2012 they finished 16th
In 2013 they finished 17th
In 2014 they finished 17th
In 2015 they finished 13th
In 2016 they finished 11th
In 2017 they finished 9th - brought in Lever who didn't really pay fit until 2020
In 2018 they finished 5th - brought in May
2019 was a mess in every sense.
In 2020 they finished 5th, choked
In 2021 they won the flag and have been strong since.

In 2020 they finished 9th. They came from nowhere in 2021. In any case Covid premierships don't really count.

 

[kenneje]

Was massively impressed by Connor Idun

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Connor Idun

Age

24

Ht

193cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

74.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

74.0

1star

tonight. Wonder if he'd ever consider moving.

 

[Alsmypal]

Was massively impressed by Connor Idun tonight. Wonder if he'd ever consider moving.

He seemed everywhere tonight. Very impressive but don’t see it happening.