Resource 2024 AFL Draft discussion thread (Wed Nov 20 to Fri Nov 22)

[Cromulant]

I think of all the Hamish moves we could potentially see, the one most liekly to me would be an early bid on Leo Lombard.

Wouldn't mind it

He's got a bucket load of talent, would be good to make the Suns pay full tote odds

 

[Mutineer]

So you think we should trade up to 2 ?

Like I've said I'm biased re Lalor and slightly lesser to Draper but if the recruiting team see them as absolute gamebreakers (I do in this draft) then I wouldn't necessarily be against it.

 

[Mostyn]

And more likely we're not one of them.

Given the Crow player he probably resembles most gamestyle wise is Mark Ricciuto.

Trading up to pick 2 guarantees one of Lalor, Draper or FOS being available to us, my thoughts are it's down to Lalor or Draper with Draper the most likely.

There's no possible way to know if we are or aren't one of them, though. All we know is that we've never been linked with him.

We may not think he will be able to be a fulltime midfielder, say. We could have a bunch of reasons why we've prioritised others.

Or maybe we haven't but we can't know.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

There's no possible way to know if we are or aren't one of them, though. All we know is that we've never been linked with him.

We may not think he will be able to be a fulltime midfielder, say. We could have a bunch of reasons why we've prioritised others.

Or maybe we haven't but we can't know.

I’d assume the main reason we haven’t been linked is because we expect him to be gone before pick 4 , and prob expect him to go pick 1

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I think of all the Hamish moves we could potentially see, the one most liekly to me would be an early bid on Leo Lombard.

Interesting one ! Out of all the players he’s prob the most similar player to Draper

I can’t see Hamish saying we prefer Lombard so we will bid on him but then we’ll take plan B Draper

Think we will just take Draper straight up if he’s there to show the love

 

[Mutineer]

There's no possible way to know if we are or aren't one of them, though. All we know is that we've never been linked with him.

We may not think he will be able to be a fulltime midfielder, say. We could have a bunch of reasons why we've prioritised others.

Or maybe we haven't but we can't know.

Look please stop with your crap that we or anybody don't think he's a fulltime midfielder, he's foremost an explosive midfielder that also has the ability to get forward and hit the scoreboard.

Haven't you noticed the players he's being compared to i.e. Dusty, Petracca and Degoey.

He had played hardly any forward until this year due to a hip/groin issue that saw him virtually do no running in the preseason hence when finally resuming he was stationed forward and absolutely added another string to his bow that wasn't so obvious prior. Not that he's ever done a proper footy preseason also being an elite cricket prospect that has always had cricket commitments. It's called potential upside.

 

[Afcprophet]

Langford could be good, but think he's too slow still. Especially for our relatively slow midfield

 

[Draft Bored]

Looking forward to being able to turn off the draft early and start enjoying a few months of my life with zero interest in AFL.

 

[ABAB]

Langford could be good, but think he's too slow still. Especially for our relatively slow midfield

Soligo has surprisingly shown very good burst speed this year and then we have Rankine and added Peatling so provided he kicks on from what he has shown in the 2nd half of last year then our midfield isn't slow anymore.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Langford could be good, but think he's too slow still. Especially for our relatively slow midfield

Overplayed re his speed

The bloke can seriously run , just not burst speed

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

I think of all the Hamish moves we could potentially see, the one most liekly to me would be an early bid on Leo Lombard.

I doubt we will bid on anyone. We have nothing to gain by doing so and it just incentivises an earlier than hoped for bid on welsh.

Our historical bidding has been for tactical reasons. This time the tactic would be to not bid.

 

[Betts are off]

I doubt we will bid on anyone. We have nothing to gain by doing so and it just incentivises an earlier than hoped for bid on welsh.

Our historical bidding has been for tactical reasons. This time the tactic would be to not bid.

Im not sure thats true. It was tactical with Jamarra, but I don't recall it being tactical otherwise. I mean, what was the tactics for the Perryman bid? Or the Tarryn Thomas? Or the H.Himmelberg one.

I think Hamish just like bidding on players that he rates.

 

[Dangarman]

If Ashcroft was there at 4, surely he'd be rated above all other remaining talent. In that unlikely event I'd be telling Brisbane we think he's a pick 4 even if you don't.

And from what I'm reading on the boards here (I am no direct judge of talent myself), an early bid on Welsh might actually give us an opportunity to pick up a project ruck instead.
(I'd suspect all other clubs know that bidding on Welsh for any reason other than actually wanting him on their list could well backfire!)

 

[Mostyn]

I’d assume the main reason we haven’t been linked is because we expect him to be gone before pick 4 , and prob expect him to go pick 1

But there's not been a consensus top pick at any stage this year - he seemed as likely to be 4 as he was to be pick 1.

Anyway, my point was just that we can't know, and we may not be interested, considering he's been right in the slot of players that could be available to us but we've never had any rumoured interest.

 

[Mostyn]

Look please stop with your crap that we or anybody don't think he's a fulltime midfielder, he's foremost an explosive midfielder that also has the ability to get forward and hit the scoreboard.

Haven't you noticed the players he's being compared to i.e. Dusty, Petracca and Degoey.

He had played hardly any forward until this year due to a hip/groin issue that saw him virtually do no running in the preseason hence when finally resuming he was stationed forward and absolutely added another string to his bow that wasn't so obvious prior. Not that he's ever done a proper footy preseason also being an elite cricket prospect that has always had cricket commitments. It's called potential upside.

Lol, you please stop with YOUR crap.

You don't get the right to say who's opinions get heard and who's don't, so piss right off with that.

There's every chance we want a pure midfielder. All the players you mentioned are combo types that have spent a lot of time up forward. That may or may not be attractive to us, considering we spent a top 5 pick on Rachelle and a pick 11 on Pedlar.

We could just be prioritising others.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

But there's not been a consensus top pick at any stage this year - he seemed as likely to be 4 as he was to be pick 1.

Anyway, my point was just that we can't know, and we may not be interested, considering he's been right in the slot of players that could be available to us but we've never had any rumoured interest.

Yep agree - can’t know for sure

I think recently he’s become a consensus pick to Richmond

 

[Mutineer]

Lol, you please stop with YOUR crap.

You don't get the right to say who's opinions get heard and who's don't, so piss right off with that.

There's every chance we want a pure midfielder. All the players you mentioned are combo types that have spent a lot of time up forward. That may or may not be attractive to us, considering we spent a top 5 pick on Rachelle and a pick 11 on Pedlar.

We could just be prioritising others.

You've obviously not watched Lalor play before a few highlights of him playing forward this year have surfaced for reasons well documented on all of the popular AFL media platforms. Go listen to the lads interviews in which he himself states he's played midfield right through until this season because of again well documented reasons with his hip/groin issues/fitness base.

That's not an opinion that's facts....again well documented facts.

GETTABLE: U18 gun's Dusty hopes, 'dominos' to fall, Dons in limbo, free agent picks home

Riley Beveridge and Cal Twomey are joined by highly touted draft prospect Sam Lalor and player agent David Trotter

www.afl.com.au

The lads own words "Midfields my prime position but building some forward craft was good"

Twomey - What have clubs told you how they see you positionally heading into the next phase?

Sam -"I think talking to clubs they mainly see me as a midfielder but I think an upside I do have is I can go forward, yeah mainly a midfielder"

 

[Draft Bored]

You've obviously not watched Lalor play before a few highlights of him playing forward this year have surfaced for reasons well documented on all of the popular AFL media platforms. Go listen to the lads interviews in which he himself states he's played midfield right through until this season because of again well documented reasons with his hip/groin issues/fitness base.

That's not an opinion that's facts....again well documented facts.

Draper & Smith would play round 1 wouldn't they?

What about Lalor, FOS and Langford?

 

[noobermensch]

After the first half of the season Josh Smillie was flying high as most people's pick 1 favourite due to his massive frame, slick movement in traffic, clean hands, penetrating boot and ability to consistently hit the scoreboard. After a quieter than anticipated champs series Smillie lost some form through the back half of the season which has seen him slide down the boards. If his early season play is more indicative of what we can expect from Josh in the future then a team picking him in the middle or back end of the top 10 will be getting a bargain.

 

[Mutineer]

Draper & Smith would play round 1 wouldn't they?

What about Lalor, FOS and Langford?

Who knows, wouldn't it all depend on their individual preseasons I guess?

If they all got through the preseason unscathed they all have the talent to play round 1.

 

[Captain Furious]

You've obviously not watched Lalor play before a few highlights of him playing forward this year have surfaced for reasons well documented on all of the popular AFL media platforms. Go listen to the lads interviews in which he himself states he's played midfield right through until this season because of again well documented reasons with his hip/groin issues/fitness base.

That's not an opinion that's facts....again well documented facts.

GETTABLE: U18 gun's Dusty hopes, 'dominos' to fall, Dons in limbo, free agent picks home

Riley Beveridge and Cal Twomey are joined by highly touted draft prospect Sam Lalor and player agent David Trotter

www.afl.com.au

The lads own words "Midfields my prime position but building some forward craft was good"

Twomey - What have clubs told you how they see you positionally heading into the next phase?

Sam -"I think talking to clubs they mainly see me as a midfielder but I think an upside I do have is I can go forward, yeah mainly a midfielder"

I had no idea you were into Lalor. You should’ve told us.

 

[Big Dub]

Overplayed re his speed

The bloke can seriously run , just not burst speed

Have just rewatched the full season highlights of each of the top 5.

Langford doesn't look slow in the contest. Prefers a sidestep to get out of trouble, which he appears pretty good at. Even when that doesn't work, he's still able to stand up in the tackle to get an accurate handball or kick out. The latter will take a couple of years in the AFL, but his sidestep should be good to go year one.

Would not be upset to hear his name called out at the draft.

 

[Mutineer]

I had no idea you were into Lalor. You should’ve told us.

Just get pissed when that poster makes it sound like he's a medium hybrid forward when he's a mid that can also add plenty of hurt factor up forward with his overhead marking and penetrating kick. Clubs aren't drafting him on what he can do forward, that's purely a bonus that not too many mids in the top 10 can boast.

 

[Captain Furious]

Just get pissed when that poster makes it sound like he's a medium hybrid forward when he's a mid that can also add plenty of hurt factor up forward with his overhead marking and penetrating kick. Clubs aren't drafting him on what he can do forward, that's purely a bonus that not too many mids in the top 10 can boast.

Even Ablett Jnr and Petracca played mainly forward for a good chunk of time. Lalor likely the same. It’s not the worst take.

 

[Mutineer]

I had no idea you were into Lalor. You should’ve told us.

By the way have you posted your top 10 and where you think the tiers are in that group?

I'm sure there would be plenty of interest on this board?