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Not good but I like that it's all on the line.
If they can't make things work this year everyone gets the sack.
Agree with all of this. I feel like if we're mediocre again and move a little up the ladder everyone's job is safe. Would rather see it all on the line and finals with a really exciting future, or failure and a cleanout.
just for something completely different - another Phantom today in H/Sun. If we want Draper perhaps we do need 2
Carlton could swing an early draft surprise as the Blues weigh up selecting South Australian midfielder Sid Draper with their No. 3 pick.
It is understood that Draper met with the Blues on Friday, with any potential play for him set to have ramifications down the order.
Carlton has long been linked to Victorian midfielder Finn O’Sullivan with its first selection, who is a second cousin of Sam Walsh.
However, rival clubs believe that O’Sullivan is no certainty for that selection as Draper firmly comes into calculations.
Draper is rated by some as the most explosive midfielder in the draft pool, drawing comparisons to Sydney star Chad Warner.
After missing the start of the season with a stress fracture in his shin, Draper captained South Australia at the under-18 national championships and went on to impress in six games of senior footy for South Adelaide in the SANFL.
The 18-year-old is the younger brother of ex-Collingwood player Arlo, who was selected in the 2021 national draft.
The Blues’ pick has been described by rival clubs as a “turning point” in the draft, which could start a “chain reaction”.
Adelaide (pick 4) has had a close eye on Draper and is still considered the favourite to secure him.
However, if the local talent is taken off the board by Carlton, the Crows are expected to instead look to big-bodied Victorian midfielder Harvey Langford.
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Melbourne — which has been strongly linked to Langford — may then have Finn O’Sullivan and Jagga Smith as options at pick 5.
St Kilda is a good chance to further shake up the top 10, with expectations that the Saints will try and split one of their first two picks for selections further back in the first round.
Greater Western Sydney – which holds three later first-round selections – is one club that would be capable of doing a deal with St Kilda, but the Giants say they have not yet been approached.
Any pick swaps must wait for live trading during the draft, after the pick trading window closed last Friday.
Only one deal was done during that window, with Collingwood bizarrely sending pick 58 to the Brisbane Lions in exchange for picks 60 and 66.
The deal leaves the Magpies with four picks in the national draft, but they are only expected to select three players.
Phantom Draft 2024
1
RICHMOND
Sam Lalor
Midfielder/Forward, 188cm, GWV Rebels/Bacchus Marsh
Drafted: RICHMOND
We say: The Tigers are keeping their cards close to their chest, but most rivals still believe Sam Lalor is the clear favourite to be the No.1 pick. While the boy from Bacchus Marsh is “not bulletproof” and did battle multiple injury issues this year, the move makes a lot of sense. Lalor is a match-winning 188cm midfielder-forward in the mould of players like Dustin Martin and Jordan De Goey. He is a bull around the contest and can also go forward and hit the scoreboard. Richmond has done its due diligence on Brisbane Lions father-son prospect Levi Ashcroft, but looks highly unlikely to place a bid on him with the first selection despite many believing he is the best player in the draft pool.
The numbers say: Ranked elite for contested possessions (12.8 per game), clearances (6.3 per game) and score involvements (6.3 per game) in the Coates Talent League this year.
2
NORTH MELBOURNE
Alixzander Tauru
Defender/Forward, 193cm, Gippsland Power/Warragul Industrials
Drafted: NORTH MELBOURNE
We say: The Kangaroos have shopping around this selection to try and slide back slightly, reaching out to rivals including Richmond, St Kilda and Adelaide. But the asking price so far has been too high and there is little incentive for those clubs to do a deal given they are already going to secure very good players within an even group of top-10 prospects. The feeling is that North Melbourne should just take Tauru at this pick, even if it is a few spots early. Tauru is a raw 193cm utility, but most scouts see enormous upside over the next three to four years given his athletic traits, versatility and hot competitive streak. If the Roos were to overlook him, Melbourne or St Kilda would be certain to pounce soon after.
The numbers say: Ranked third for intercept marks (3.7 per game) and sixth for intercept possessions (7.3 per game) in the Coates Talent League this year.
3
BRISBANE LIONS
Levi Ashcroft
Match bid from Carlton Midfielder, 179cm, Sandringham Dragons/Old Brighton Grammarians
Drafted: BRISBANE LIONS
We say: The Lions look like getting lucky – again. Greater Western Sydney chose not to bid on Brisbane father-son Will Ashcroft with the No.1 pick in 2022, when he was widely considered a standout prospect. This year, his younger brother Levi is also rated by many as the best player in the draft pool but isn’t expected to receive a bid until pick 3 at the earliest. Brisbane would have to stump up 2,400 points (after a 20 per cent discount) to match a bid on Ashcroft at pick 1, but a bid at pick 3 would only cost it 1787 points. That could be the difference between taking a points deficit into next year or not. Ashcroft is likely to start his career across half-forward, where he has shown he can have enormous impact with his creativity and goalkicking abilities. However, expect him to eventually join Will in the Lions’ engine room.
The numbers say: Ranked No.3 for ranking points (152 per game), No.3 for disposals (30.8 per game) and No.1 for score involvements (9.3 per game) in the Coates Talent League this year.
4
CARLTON
Finn O'Sullivan
Midfielder, 182cm, Oakleigh Chargers/Koroit
Drafted: CARLTON
We say: Here’s where it gets interesting. The Blues have long been linked to O’Sullivan, a powerful and dynamic Victorian midfielder who had entered the year as a potential No.1 pick before multiple injuries caused major interruptions. There is also an obvious connection there, given the Koroit product is a second cousin of Sam Walsh. However, Carlton has also expressed significant interest in South Australian Sid Draper, whom the Blues met with again last Friday. To a lesser extent, Jagga Smith is also believed to be in the mix as a third potential option. Carlton is clearly looking for a midfielder who is light on their feet and different to what the club has already got and all three players fit the bill. But which way the Blues decide to go will shape the following few picks in the draft.
The numbers say: Finished an interrupted year with a bang in the Coates Talent League preliminary final, logging 20 disposals, eight inside-50s, eight marks, seven score involvements and two goals.
5
ADELAIDE
Sid Draper
Midfielder, 182cm, South Adelaide/Willunga
Drafted: ADELAIDE
We say: The Crows have held talks with North Melbourne about trading up to pick 2. However, it seems more likely that they remain here, where they will still be able to add a different dynamic to their midfield with a high-end talent. Draper – who captained South Australia at the under-18 national championships – appears the most likely option, and not just because he is the local pick. Some believe that Draper is the most explosive midfielder in this draft, with comparisons made to Sydney star Chad Warner. That’s exactly what the Crows need. Adelaide also likes Victorian midfielders Harvey Langford and Jagga Smith, who would definitely come into play if Carlton grabs Draper first. But it is hard to see the South Australian sliding outside of the top-five selections, particularly after a strong finish to the season playing senior footy for South Adelaide in the SANFL.
The numbers say: Averaged 22.2 disposals, 4.7 clearances, 4.5 score involvements, 6.2 tackles and 108 ranking points across six senior games for South Adelaide in the SANFL this year.
6
MELBOURNE
Harvey Langford
Midfielder, 191cm, Dandenong Stingrays/Mount Martha
Drafted: MELBOURNE
We say: If Tauru is off the board and Langford gets past the Crows, popular opinion in recruiting circles suggests that the Demons will snap up this big-bodied Victorian midfielder. Langford had an ultra-consistent campaign at every level this year and was a joint winner of the Larke Medal at the under-18 national championships. Standing 191cm, he models his game on Marcus Bontempelli and is similarly capable of having a big impact both with his work around clearances and his ability to take marks and kick goals when pushed forward. The other player being linked to this pick is Jagga Smith, who some scouts believe would suit Melbourne well given his ability to play as a midfielder or creative small forward.
The numbers say: Finished as the No.1 ranked player at the under-18 national championships, averaging 25.5 disposals, 6.3 marks, 6.3 clearances, 7.5 score involvements and 130 ranking points.
7
RICHMOND
Josh Smillie
Midfielder, 195cm, Eastern Ranges/Park Orchards
Drafted: RICHMOND
We say: This shapes as a tricky selection for the Tigers if Smillie and Jagga Smith are still both on the board. Richmond has been a big fan of Lalor and Smillie since the very start of the year and has the opportunity to grab both players. However, Smith was also brought into the fold during the season and starred across three VFL games for the club. Smillie did not have as good a year as Smith, but has enormous upside if you are projecting ahead. While he has still got some areas of his game to work on – including his kicking and burst from stoppages – he has drawn comparisons to two-time Brownlow Medal winner Patrick Cripps and quality big-bodied midfielders like that do not grow on trees. Smillie also brings strong leadership traits, which is what the Tigers need as they go through a rebuild.
The numbers say: Rated elite among midfielders in the Coates Talent League this year, averaging 25.5 disposals, 11.3 contested possessions, 4.8 clearances, 6.3 score involvements and 129 ranking points.
8
ST KILDA
Jagga Smith
Midfielder, 182cm, Oakleigh Chargers/Richmond Juniors
Drafted: ST KILDA
We say: One way or another, it looks like being Christmas come early for the Saints. There’s an expectation that St Kilda may end up with a choice of Smith or Josh Smillie – either of whom they would be thrilled with. Smith is not only a prolific ball-winning midfielder who can run, but he also has future AFL captain written all over him. He served as skipper for Oakleigh this year, as well as leading from the front for Vic Metro at the under-18 national championships. While he is a smaller, lightly-framed onballer, recruiters across the competition have used the word “tough” in their reports on Smith this year. Another word that sums him up is “consistent”, with Smith barely having an off day all year. He won a game-high 31 disposals in his VFL debut for Richmond in July, showing he is ready to step up to the next level.
The numbers say: Finished as the No.1 rated Victorian in the Coates Talent League this year, averaging 33.8 disposals, 7.9 clearances, 6.8 score involvements and 154 ranking points.
9
GOLD COAST
Leo Lombard
Match bid from St Kilda Midfielder/Forward, 179cm, Gold Coast Suns Academy/Broadbeach
Drafted: GOLD COAST
We say: The Suns are preparing for the Saints to place a bid on Lombard with one of their two top-10 picks. Such a move would come as little surprise, given St Kilda president Andrew Bassat has been particularly vocal in his criticism of the AFL’s father-son and academy system. Some clubs have Lombard a few spots back on their draft boards, but say they “hope” St Kilda does make a bid to keep Gold Coast honest. A quick and agile midfielder or half-forward, Lombard was a joint winner of the Larke Medal at the under-18 national championships and models his game on Suns veteran Touk Miller. He has been part of the Suns Academy since he was 13 and was a VFL premiership player for Gold Coast as a 16-year-old last year.
The numbers say: Finished as the No.5 rated player at the under-18 national championships this year, averaging 26.3 disposals, 10.5 contested possessions, 4.5 tackles and one goal for the Allies.
10
ST KILDA
Tobie Travaglia
Defender/Midfielder, 187cm, Bendigo Pioneers/Sandhurst
Drafted: ST KILDA
We say: The Saints are far from certain to use their second top-10 pick. They have been interviewing players who are more in the late-teens range of the draft, leading industry insiders to join the dots and suggest St Kilda might be looking to split this pick for two of Greater Western Sydney’s three first-round selections. The Giants have been telling people they haven’t been approached about such a deal, but GWS list boss Jason McCartney and new St Kilda recruiting manager Simon Dalrymple were former colleagues at the Western Bulldogs and have a good relationship. If the Saints do hold the selection, Travaglia is firmly in the frame as a line-breaking half-back who can add some serious running power and also defends well one-on-one. The Bendigo product finished second in the 2km time trial at the national draft combine last month.
The numbers say: Finished as the No.8 rated player at the under-18 national championships this year, averaging 21.8 disposals, 6.3 marks, 3.5 intercept marks, 8.3 intercept possessions and 112 ranking points.
Carlton could swing an early draft surprise as the Blues weigh up selecting South Australian midfielder Sid Draper with their No. 3 pick.
It is understood that Draper met with the Blues on Friday, with any potential play for him set to have ramifications down the order.
Carlton has long been linked to Victorian midfielder Finn O’Sullivan with its first selection, who is a second cousin of Sam Walsh.
However, rival clubs believe that O’Sullivan is no certainty for that selection as Draper firmly comes into calculations.
Draper is rated by some as the most explosive midfielder in the draft pool, drawing comparisons to Sydney star Chad Warner.
After missing the start of the season with a stress fracture in his shin, Draper captained South Australia at the under-18 national championships and went on to impress in six games of senior footy for South Adelaide in the SANFL.
The 18-year-old is the younger brother of ex-Collingwood player Arlo, who was selected in the 2021 national draft.
The Blues’ pick has been described by rival clubs as a “turning point” in the draft, which could start a “chain reaction”.
Adelaide (pick 4) has had a close eye on Draper and is still considered the favourite to secure him.
However, if the local talent is taken off the board by Carlton, the Crows are expected to instead look to big-bodied Victorian midfielder Harvey Langford.
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Melbourne — which has been strongly linked to Langford — may then have Finn O’Sullivan and Jagga Smith as options at pick 5.
St Kilda is a good chance to further shake up the top 10, with expectations that the Saints will try and split one of their first two picks for selections further back in the first round.
Greater Western Sydney – which holds three later first-round selections – is one club that would be capable of doing a deal with St Kilda, but the Giants say they have not yet been approached.
Any pick swaps must wait for live trading during the draft, after the pick trading window closed last Friday.
Only one deal was done during that window, with Collingwood bizarrely sending pick 58 to the Brisbane Lions in exchange for picks 60 and 66.
The deal leaves the Magpies with four picks in the national draft, but they are only expected to select three players.
Phantom Draft 2024
1
RICHMOND
Sam Lalor
Midfielder/Forward, 188cm, GWV Rebels/Bacchus Marsh
Drafted: RICHMOND
We say: The Tigers are keeping their cards close to their chest, but most rivals still believe Sam Lalor is the clear favourite to be the No.1 pick. While the boy from Bacchus Marsh is “not bulletproof” and did battle multiple injury issues this year, the move makes a lot of sense. Lalor is a match-winning 188cm midfielder-forward in the mould of players like Dustin Martin and Jordan De Goey. He is a bull around the contest and can also go forward and hit the scoreboard. Richmond has done its due diligence on Brisbane Lions father-son prospect Levi Ashcroft, but looks highly unlikely to place a bid on him with the first selection despite many believing he is the best player in the draft pool.
The numbers say: Ranked elite for contested possessions (12.8 per game), clearances (6.3 per game) and score involvements (6.3 per game) in the Coates Talent League this year.
2
NORTH MELBOURNE
Alixzander Tauru
Defender/Forward, 193cm, Gippsland Power/Warragul Industrials
Drafted: NORTH MELBOURNE
We say: The Kangaroos have shopping around this selection to try and slide back slightly, reaching out to rivals including Richmond, St Kilda and Adelaide. But the asking price so far has been too high and there is little incentive for those clubs to do a deal given they are already going to secure very good players within an even group of top-10 prospects. The feeling is that North Melbourne should just take Tauru at this pick, even if it is a few spots early. Tauru is a raw 193cm utility, but most scouts see enormous upside over the next three to four years given his athletic traits, versatility and hot competitive streak. If the Roos were to overlook him, Melbourne or St Kilda would be certain to pounce soon after.
The numbers say: Ranked third for intercept marks (3.7 per game) and sixth for intercept possessions (7.3 per game) in the Coates Talent League this year.
3
BRISBANE LIONS
Levi Ashcroft
Match bid from Carlton Midfielder, 179cm, Sandringham Dragons/Old Brighton Grammarians
Drafted: BRISBANE LIONS
We say: The Lions look like getting lucky – again. Greater Western Sydney chose not to bid on Brisbane father-son Will Ashcroft with the No.1 pick in 2022, when he was widely considered a standout prospect. This year, his younger brother Levi is also rated by many as the best player in the draft pool but isn’t expected to receive a bid until pick 3 at the earliest. Brisbane would have to stump up 2,400 points (after a 20 per cent discount) to match a bid on Ashcroft at pick 1, but a bid at pick 3 would only cost it 1787 points. That could be the difference between taking a points deficit into next year or not. Ashcroft is likely to start his career across half-forward, where he has shown he can have enormous impact with his creativity and goalkicking abilities. However, expect him to eventually join Will in the Lions’ engine room.
The numbers say: Ranked No.3 for ranking points (152 per game), No.3 for disposals (30.8 per game) and No.1 for score involvements (9.3 per game) in the Coates Talent League this year.
4
CARLTON
Finn O'Sullivan
Midfielder, 182cm, Oakleigh Chargers/Koroit
Drafted: CARLTON
We say: Here’s where it gets interesting. The Blues have long been linked to O’Sullivan, a powerful and dynamic Victorian midfielder who had entered the year as a potential No.1 pick before multiple injuries caused major interruptions. There is also an obvious connection there, given the Koroit product is a second cousin of Sam Walsh. However, Carlton has also expressed significant interest in South Australian Sid Draper, whom the Blues met with again last Friday. To a lesser extent, Jagga Smith is also believed to be in the mix as a third potential option. Carlton is clearly looking for a midfielder who is light on their feet and different to what the club has already got and all three players fit the bill. But which way the Blues decide to go will shape the following few picks in the draft.
The numbers say: Finished an interrupted year with a bang in the Coates Talent League preliminary final, logging 20 disposals, eight inside-50s, eight marks, seven score involvements and two goals.
5
ADELAIDE
Sid Draper
Midfielder, 182cm, South Adelaide/Willunga
Drafted: ADELAIDE
We say: The Crows have held talks with North Melbourne about trading up to pick 2. However, it seems more likely that they remain here, where they will still be able to add a different dynamic to their midfield with a high-end talent. Draper – who captained South Australia at the under-18 national championships – appears the most likely option, and not just because he is the local pick. Some believe that Draper is the most explosive midfielder in this draft, with comparisons made to Sydney star Chad Warner. That’s exactly what the Crows need. Adelaide also likes Victorian midfielders Harvey Langford and Jagga Smith, who would definitely come into play if Carlton grabs Draper first. But it is hard to see the South Australian sliding outside of the top-five selections, particularly after a strong finish to the season playing senior footy for South Adelaide in the SANFL.
The numbers say: Averaged 22.2 disposals, 4.7 clearances, 4.5 score involvements, 6.2 tackles and 108 ranking points across six senior games for South Adelaide in the SANFL this year.
6
MELBOURNE
Harvey Langford
Midfielder, 191cm, Dandenong Stingrays/Mount Martha
Drafted: MELBOURNE
We say: If Tauru is off the board and Langford gets past the Crows, popular opinion in recruiting circles suggests that the Demons will snap up this big-bodied Victorian midfielder. Langford had an ultra-consistent campaign at every level this year and was a joint winner of the Larke Medal at the under-18 national championships. Standing 191cm, he models his game on Marcus Bontempelli and is similarly capable of having a big impact both with his work around clearances and his ability to take marks and kick goals when pushed forward. The other player being linked to this pick is Jagga Smith, who some scouts believe would suit Melbourne well given his ability to play as a midfielder or creative small forward.
The numbers say: Finished as the No.1 ranked player at the under-18 national championships, averaging 25.5 disposals, 6.3 marks, 6.3 clearances, 7.5 score involvements and 130 ranking points.
7
RICHMOND
Josh Smillie
Midfielder, 195cm, Eastern Ranges/Park Orchards
Drafted: RICHMOND
We say: This shapes as a tricky selection for the Tigers if Smillie and Jagga Smith are still both on the board. Richmond has been a big fan of Lalor and Smillie since the very start of the year and has the opportunity to grab both players. However, Smith was also brought into the fold during the season and starred across three VFL games for the club. Smillie did not have as good a year as Smith, but has enormous upside if you are projecting ahead. While he has still got some areas of his game to work on – including his kicking and burst from stoppages – he has drawn comparisons to two-time Brownlow Medal winner Patrick Cripps and quality big-bodied midfielders like that do not grow on trees. Smillie also brings strong leadership traits, which is what the Tigers need as they go through a rebuild.
The numbers say: Rated elite among midfielders in the Coates Talent League this year, averaging 25.5 disposals, 11.3 contested possessions, 4.8 clearances, 6.3 score involvements and 129 ranking points.
8
ST KILDA
Jagga Smith
Midfielder, 182cm, Oakleigh Chargers/Richmond Juniors
Drafted: ST KILDA
We say: One way or another, it looks like being Christmas come early for the Saints. There’s an expectation that St Kilda may end up with a choice of Smith or Josh Smillie – either of whom they would be thrilled with. Smith is not only a prolific ball-winning midfielder who can run, but he also has future AFL captain written all over him. He served as skipper for Oakleigh this year, as well as leading from the front for Vic Metro at the under-18 national championships. While he is a smaller, lightly-framed onballer, recruiters across the competition have used the word “tough” in their reports on Smith this year. Another word that sums him up is “consistent”, with Smith barely having an off day all year. He won a game-high 31 disposals in his VFL debut for Richmond in July, showing he is ready to step up to the next level.
The numbers say: Finished as the No.1 rated Victorian in the Coates Talent League this year, averaging 33.8 disposals, 7.9 clearances, 6.8 score involvements and 154 ranking points.
9
GOLD COAST
Leo Lombard
Match bid from St Kilda Midfielder/Forward, 179cm, Gold Coast Suns Academy/Broadbeach
Drafted: GOLD COAST
We say: The Suns are preparing for the Saints to place a bid on Lombard with one of their two top-10 picks. Such a move would come as little surprise, given St Kilda president Andrew Bassat has been particularly vocal in his criticism of the AFL’s father-son and academy system. Some clubs have Lombard a few spots back on their draft boards, but say they “hope” St Kilda does make a bid to keep Gold Coast honest. A quick and agile midfielder or half-forward, Lombard was a joint winner of the Larke Medal at the under-18 national championships and models his game on Suns veteran Touk Miller. He has been part of the Suns Academy since he was 13 and was a VFL premiership player for Gold Coast as a 16-year-old last year.
The numbers say: Finished as the No.5 rated player at the under-18 national championships this year, averaging 26.3 disposals, 10.5 contested possessions, 4.5 tackles and one goal for the Allies.
10
ST KILDA
Tobie Travaglia
Defender/Midfielder, 187cm, Bendigo Pioneers/Sandhurst
Drafted: ST KILDA
We say: The Saints are far from certain to use their second top-10 pick. They have been interviewing players who are more in the late-teens range of the draft, leading industry insiders to join the dots and suggest St Kilda might be looking to split this pick for two of Greater Western Sydney’s three first-round selections. The Giants have been telling people they haven’t been approached about such a deal, but GWS list boss Jason McCartney and new St Kilda recruiting manager Simon Dalrymple were former colleagues at the Western Bulldogs and have a good relationship. If the Saints do hold the selection, Travaglia is firmly in the frame as a line-breaking half-back who can add some serious running power and also defends well one-on-one. The Bendigo product finished second in the 2km time trial at the national draft combine last month.
The numbers say: Finished as the No.8 rated player at the under-18 national championships this year, averaging 21.8 disposals, 6.3 marks, 3.5 intercept marks, 8.3 intercept possessions and 112 ranking points.
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Thanks mate.
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Don’t mind Adelaide! The new gig has panned out pretty well so far. As an outsider now that I’ve actually had a close look at your list structure and contracts I’m surprised Reid didn’t cut deeper from the main list, even if it meant some contracted players (e.g. Brodie Smith) and pushing some money in other contracts back a year or two.
Pick 64 has come into 57 so far and I expect there to still be some players there that in other years might go in the late 2R. Being able to select a player there and match a later bid for Welsh would have been a great result if it eventuates. I suppose you still can if you burn Schoenberg and Burgess.
Also could have made an aggressive play for Dodson. It’s a gaping list hole and I don’t know how they’ve arrived at only having two 29yo ruckmen on the list depending on how you classify TT. Long term Dodson rucking with TT chopping out from the forward line would have been a good pairing, especially with his meniscal injury.
I have been worried about Blues taking Draper . Being SA captain and crows fan - therefore little long term risk of losing him - and MAINLY being that breakaway pace mid we need I am open to getting up to pick 2 as others have mentioned. He is the one I imagine the club really wants. It just cant be using our F1 so options clearly are limited.
Would you give up 2 (or 3) of our third rounders next year (picks 40+) to get Swans F2 giving them points for Academy player (from my understanding). Then we offer Kangas that F2 for a slide to 4. Would clearly need to be agreed and loaded as soon as draft starts with a 3 way trade immediately. For Kangas they may want more but hard to achieve and they cant afford to let Dees possibly take Tauru at 5, hence Crows are their best bet for a trade (Gettable also mentioned this potential option during the week)
I personally would. Picks 40+ in a supposed weak draft when we will have the option of trading both 2026 and 2027 picks to get back into the second (third) round if needed.
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Seems based on recent info if fos isn’t available for us we will take Draper. Would you guys rather Jagga or Langford if this circumstance eventuated
Smith I would think
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Smith every day of the week for me
Jagga for me. Others might have different view.
Will be interesting what happens from here re pick 2 if Lalor goes at 1.
If North want Tauru it seems unlikely they would trade past 4 given risk of Melbourne taking him - either they stay at 2 or trade with us.
Based on this I can't see Carlton not having access to FOS at 3 unless the Crows want him and trade up to 2 to take him, leaving Draper at 3 for Carlton.
Most of us rate smith really highly and would want him but I think club might take Langford if Draper is not available
I wouldn’t be upset with that as I have them super even and Langford was an absolute beast this season
I really hope we’d take Jagga, but I’m not super confident the club thinks the same
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If it came down to a choice between Smith and Langford based on pure talent Smith for me, just get the feel retention wise Langford would be the most likely of the 2 to be a career Crow. Personally I'd take Smillie before Langford.
That yoyo time of Ollie's is elite for endurance so there has to have been an issue with his 2km run.
Smith >>>> Smillie >> Langford, for mine. If it was me I’d be happier to take Lindsay or Travaglia at 4 than Smillie/Langford, but that doesn’t seem to be a possibility
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It's horrendously boring only having the 1 pick.
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I still get the feel if Sid Draper is our target we are every chance to go hard for pick 2 on draft night, we may already have just can't sign off on it? Carlton perhaps have spooked us with their latest interview?
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Atleast we can tune out after the first 20 minutes!
Don't even have the hope of us trading back in! Takes away even that small chance of excitement.
Sheeeeesh
No way I’d have Smillie before Langford
Just in terms of skillset Langford has him covered in almost everything
Smith is an absolute gun and kind of deserves to be no 1 pick even though he likely won’t be
Hopefully we take Langford and he turns into peak Bontempelli somehow
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