Absolute class that boy.
Funny seeing him have bounces when apparently he can’t run ha ha
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Funny seeing him have bounces when apparently he can’t run ha ha
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Carlton got rid of their depth.
Can't see them winning it unless they have a great injury run.
I see them dropping.
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Impressive highlights and based on those I’m predicting he will be the best player in the AFL WaynesWorld19
How does he compare pace wise to Cripps, Bont, Tom Green?
I wanted to put Lindsay above Ashcroft as well, but just couldn’t diminish Levi’s body of work too much
Langford’s definitely my outlier this year. Gerreyn I’m not as confident placing that low, he’s a very physical player which will serve him well in his development
Thoughts on my bolter in Will Hayes? Think if a team can get him lower than 25 they’ll be doing very well, as dynamic and forward-moving as any player in this draft IMO
He gets to the outside like Bont , better than the other 2
He’s a real hybrid inside / outside
Lots of running bounces , he’s not quick and actually quite slow but when you have high cruising speed and elite endurance I don’t think it matters as much
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AFL Phantom draft 2024: Chris Cavanagh maps out the top 35 picks on the AFL Draft
Who will your club take on draft night? Chris Cavanagh has predicted the first 35 picks – and he’s answered your draft questions.Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Many Phantoms have North taking Tauru. How strong have links actually been or are people guessing because North need KPP? Anyone else they are interested in?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
I’ve spoken to a lot of people in the industry over the past week and I haven’t heard any names linked to North outside of Tauru. He’s clearly the one they’re eyeing and suits them best among that crop of top-10 players.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
4
Any word on who Carlton are interested in with pick 38 if they don't have to use it on a Campo bid?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
Really depends who is left when you get to that range in the draft but word is they're looking at rebounding half-backs and potentially a key defender. The mail is that the Saints could be every chance to bid on Ben Camporeale before Carlton gets to that second selection, though.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
4
Who do you personally think Carlton will select with their number 3 pick?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
I've still got Finn O'Sullivan as the favourite, but I'm definitely not ruling out Sid Draper.
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Oliver
5 hours ago
3
Will Richmond try to trade up to pick up Armstrong? And will they target Luke Trainor with their pick 18?
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Brad
5 hours ago
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what would Adelaide have to give up along with their Pick 4(5) for North to move up play it safe and keep Carltons hands off of Draper?
Anonymous
6 hours ago
2
Jayden Nguyen tested through the roof, also placed well in the TAC Cup League medal. What are the chances he goes late?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
Yep, he's got a bit of speed and has shown some development as a lockdown defender this year. He's part of Essendon's Next Generation Academy, so the Bombers will consider him late or as a rookie.
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Judith
6 hours ago
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Could we see Carlton slide back at all if whoever they're targetting is taken before Pick 3?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
Don't think that will happen. Any of Finn O'Sullivan, Sid Draper or Jagga Smith would suit the Blues nicely and at least one of them will be available.
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Elliot
6 hours ago
2
Which top midfielder is the fastest? Carlton needs speed in their midfield; will they target that player?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
Expect the Blues to grab one of Finn O'Sullivan, Sid Draper or Jagga Smith with their first pick. All three are quite explosive and light on their feet, which is what Carlton needs, as you say.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
2
Will Richmond trade any of their picks for future picks. Do you think they should just concentrate on picking the best top 4-5 players and build again for 2025
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
I think they're better loading up on this year's draft, given it is stronger and next year's draft is a little more compromised with Academy players. But I wouldn't be surprised one bit if the Tigers trade one pick into next year and spread it out just a little.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
2
Should Richmond take all 8 picks in this draft or trade a couple for next year?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
I think it would be wise to trade one into next year and give themselves at least two first-round picks going into 2025. They'll get plenty of offers to do that on draft night I'd suggest. Blair Hartley's phone will be running hot.
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Nathan
6 hours ago
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The biggest mistake North make is to bow to pressure and select a mid at 2. They must back themselves & select their man Tauru! Do you agree?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
Yep, I agree. If that’s the player they need and they can’t execute a “slight slide” down the order, they have to take Tauru even if it’s a few spots earlier. It’s a bit of a punt, but there could be a big pay-off and North simply does not need another midfielder like a Jagga Smith.
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Tony
6 hours ago
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What do you see as being most likely trade option for Saints pick 8 if they were to split it?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
The big watch is on GWS with three later first-round picks. Could they trade two of them to the Saints for pick 8? I think it’s every chance. I can’t see the Tigers trading two of their picks to get another top-10 pick, given they are already very well placed.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Should Carlton fans be worried about Finn O'Sullivan's injury record or is he just that good anyway?
Chris Cavanagh
8 hours ago
Not too much concern for mine. A couple of his injuries this year were simple contact ones with his finger and his thumb, so they’re not as concerning as repeat soft tissue injuries or knees would be.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
1
IS Ben Kennedy a realistic chance to be drafted? From Xavier College and Murray Bushrangers.
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
He got invited to the state draft combine, which suggests there is some level of interest from clubs later in the order. He had a strong camapaign for Xavier in the APS and he's fast, powerful, kicks the footy well and can take an intercept mark. So he's not without a chance to be a late pick or rookie.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Where does Luke Kennedy land?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
Good chance to be a late or rookie pick for sure. There's a fair bit of interest and some believe he could come into play as early as the 40s or 50s. Has been a consistent performer for the Sandringham Dragons the past two years. Finished second behind Levi Ashcroft in the Dragons' best and fairest this year.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Concerned about FOS lack of production. Yes he's high impact but disposals are really low. Is this an issue? How much impact did injuries really have on him?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
It’s true that Finn O’Sullivan doesn’t have as many runs on the board as others this year, because of the injuries which meant he couldn’t really get going at full steam. I believe his finger which he had surgery on was quite sore all year, which wouldn’t have helped when he was out on the park. He’s a high-impact player, though, who doesn’t need 40 touches to have an impact on games. Some of his matches this year were better than the stats sheet suggested, including when he played VFL for Richmond.
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Steven
6 hours ago
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With a strong top 30 teams like NM with only 2 picks would surely be live trading on the night. Could be a frenzy. Will North trade futures to get in this year.
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
The Roos would love an extra first-round pick this year and have certainly tried to do that by sounding out clubs like Richmond and St Kilda to try and split pick 2 – without any success so far. They’ve got all their future picks for next year, though, so they will definitely consider trading one of them into this year on the night if there’s a player they want available in the right range.
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Fos
6 hours ago
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How many picks would you estimate this "super draft" has before the really good players start to thin out?
Chris Cavanagh
6 hours ago
The draft does bat quite deep this year. I think clubs with picks in the early or mid 40s are still going to be very happy about their selections.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Who is the biggest Smokey that could make top 20?
Chris Cavanagh
6 hours ago
There could be a surprise, but I'm not sure that there are too many major smokey's this year. Feels like the top 30 or so this year has been realatively set for a while.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Could Ollie Hannaford make it to West Coast's second pick (30). Has real Toby Greene type vibes about the way he plays
Chris Cavanagh
6 hours ago
Probably more unlikely I'd say, given there are a few clubs with picks in the 20s who like him and are looking for that kind of player. It's been quite the rise for Hannaford in the second half of the year.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
1
Outside of Reid what other guys look like they might slide outside the top 10-15?
Chris Cavanagh
6 hours ago
Luke Trainor is the other one, who was considered a potential top-five selection earlier in the year.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Hi Chris if the giants trade up to pick 8 who do you think they might target?
Chris Cavanagh
6 hours ago
Tobie Travaglia is the name I'd be watching for if the Giants do move up. Running machine off half-back who is a good size and defends very well one-on-one.
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Keef
5 hours ago
1
Hi Chris, if Armstrong is not available for Dee's second pick, or they go in another direction, who are they likely to target? Thanks
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Will the doggies target any key defenders?
Chris Cavanagh
6 hours ago
Believe they're taking a look at Luke Trainor, who is a 194cm intercept defender who looks up to Tom Stewart. All indications are the Dogs might be looking for a small-medium forward with their first or second pick, though.
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Philty Phil
6 hours ago
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Hawthorn have stated they would like to improve their draft position and would like talks. Who would they target, and how would they do it with little capital?
Chris Cavanagh
6 hours ago
I think everyone with later picks wants to move up, but that's going to be easier said than done. Collingwood's in a similar boat, too. There should still be some good players available in that range for the Hawks, though. Players like James Barrat, Tom Sims or Hamish Davis could suit. Kayle Gerreyn - whose dad Chris was drafted to the Hawks in 1992 - would be another name to watch for as a 199cm forward-ruck. The Hawks should get tough midfielder Cody Anderson as an NGA player later in the draft, too.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Is Sam Lalor pretty much a lock for Richmond at Pick One?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
That's the feeling from just about every rival club you speak to, yep. He had an interupted year with injury but he's a quality player who can be a real matchwinner.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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has essendon missed a trick by trading out their pick? Or would the bid on Kako have come before their pick if they hadn't traded it out?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
Melbourne and St Kilda always had picks before Essendon anyway and liked Kako. Richmond has done work on him too. So I think it was the right move to shift that pick into next year. The Bombers also have the option of trading that pick from Melbourne (or their own future first pick) back into this year's draft on the night if there is someone willing to do a deal.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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What's the latest news with north finding a suitor for their pick 2? Has Richmond ruled themselves out?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
I'd be shocked it if was Richmond now, it won't be Carlton, I can't see it being St Kilda and there's not a lot of incentive for Melbourne to move up. Adelaide (pick 4) is the one to watch, but that looks more unlikely than likely.
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Steve
6 hours ago
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Who are West Coast targeting with 2nd pick? Will they be looking to take best available or target a tall defender to address list needs?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
Eagles have definitely got their eyes on a key defender and have been linked to South Fremantle defender Tom Bell, but he won't be the second pick. The mail is they're looking at some forwards around that second pick. Taj Hotton probably won't get that far, but the likes of Jonty Faull, Cooper Hynes and Ollie Hannaford could be in the mix.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Any chance Geelong will try to trade back in for an earlier selection than they currently have?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
All the clubs that don’t have top 30 picks will be looking to get back in, but that’s going to be easier said than done because clubs with picks in that range aren’t particularly interested in giving them up in what is a very strong draft this year.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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How does Sam Marshall compare with Jaspa Fletcher in terms of playing style? And will he end up playing on the opposite wing for Brisbane for the next decade?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
Yep, Marshall is fairly similar to Fletcher. More of that outside player who is an elite runner. His BOG performance in the Coates League Grand Final certainly made many stand up and take notice. The reigning premiers are in a very good spot. It’s been a strong list build from the Lions and now they’re seeing these father-son and Academy guns come through as the cream on the cake. There’s more on the way next year, too.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Should we really believe there wasn't some handshake agreement between Richmond and Brisbane not to bid on Ashcroft?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
It’s an interesting one. Many think Ashcroft is the best player in the draft, but if he’s not No.1 on the Tigers’ draft board then they won’t bid on him. If they think Lalor is a better fit for them, it’s fair enough for them not to place a bid at No.1. It won’t be far after that that a bid comes, though.
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Zac
6 hours ago
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Hi Dave, any chance James Barret slips to the pies, if not who do you think they will select
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
Chris here, not Dave. But Barratt comes into the mix from the mid-30s onward I think. The Pies’ first pick should come down to pick 47 or 48, so he might be gone by then. The Pies have also put some work into WA medium-forward Hamish Davis, but he’s in the same boat and could be snapped up from the mid-30s onwards. It will really come down to who is left over for the Pies, but they should still land a good player with that pick.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Why do so many predictors have Jagga Smith sliding?
Chris Cavanagh
8 hours ago
I wouldn’t say Smith is a slider at all. No one thinks he will get past the Saints at pick 8 and he’s a good chance to go before that given there’s interest from Carlton, Richmond, Adelaide and Melbourne as well. It just depends what type of players those clubs at the top of the order are looking for because that top group of midfielders are all a little different.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Is North Melbourne taking a punt if it takes Tauru at pick 2 or is he really what the Roos need? Seems a big price to pay for potential...
Chris Cavanagh
8 hours ago
I do think it’s a bit of a punt, because Tauru is raw. But if North doesn’t take him at pick 2, someone else will in the first seven or eight selections, so it is not a huge stretch. Don’t expect too much from him next year, but got traits that suggest he could be a serious AFL player in three or four years’ time.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Thank goodness for Sydney - they seem to be the only club with the cahones to bid on rival players. Why are clubs so hesitant to do this?
Chris Cavanagh
8 hours ago
It’s a good question. The Swans have a new list management team this year but do have a history of placing bids and have picks in the right areas to place a couple more this year.
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Dave
6 hours ago
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Hi Chris what chance do you think the Tigers are of getting Jagga Smith with their second pick? He looked great for the Tigers' VFL side this year!
Chris Cavanagh
8 hours ago
Jagga’s definitely being linked to clubs in front of the Tigers, including Carlton, Adelaide and Melbourne. But I think there’s every chance Smith and Josh Smillie could be available at the Tigers’ second pick. Smith was arguably the best-performed player of the year across all levels and is going to be a star at AFL level for a long time.
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Helen
6 hours ago
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If Rich r still deciding between FOS / Lalor for pick 1 as some people think, why is there a reluctance to trade up to pick 2 given it would mean they get both?
Chris Cavanagh
6 hours ago
It seems to be between those two, yep, with Lalor still the favourite. The Tigers won't get both as their picks currently stand, but they'll still get a very good midfielder at pick 6 so there's not huge incentive to pay up to move up. It's a pretty even group of midfielders in that top 7 or 8 this year.
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Graeme from Werribee
6 hours ago
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What about the 19yo in the Talent League? Brisbane picked up McLachlan. Joe Pike and Liam Kershaw stood out in the Young Guns game and a lot of interest in MSD
Chris Cavanagh
6 hours ago
The feeling is Joe Pike is a good chance to get an opportunity as a later pick or rookie. Was in the mix mid-season as you say and continued to develop nicely with the Geelong Falcons this year.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Should Richmond do a pick swap with North to get the 2 absolute best midfielders in the draft (apart from Ashcroft)
Chris Cavanagh
6 hours ago
I wouldn't, if it means giving up two first-round picks to get that selection. There's not much between the top 7 or 8 midfielders this year, so the Tigers should still get a gun one like Josh Smillie at pick 6. Let's not forget he was a leading contender to be pick 1 at the start of the year.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Do you think Sam Toner from the Stingrays has a chance of being picked up late or as rookie?
Chris Cavanagh
6 hours ago
Yep, he's got fans as a bit of a draft bolter this year. Recruiters have him in that window as a late to rookie selection.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Hey Chris, what are the draft ranges for a few WA prospects, in Kayla Gerreyn & Jaxon Artemis?
Chris Cavanagh
6 hours ago
Later second round or early third round for Gerreyn. Artemis is also a later prospect, who has been linked to Fremantle. It's been good to see a couple more players emerge from WA this year after it was looking thin at the start of the season.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Which midfielder do you think Carlton add with their first pick, Draper or O'Sullivan?
Chris Cavanagh
6 hours ago
O'Sullivan's still the favourite but I wouldn't be ruling out Draper just yet.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Which midfield archetypes are likely to dominate the AFL in the next decade: strike midfielders like Lalor or ballwinners like Smith or Ashcroft?
Chris Cavanagh
6 hours ago
Both? Will Ashcroft showed in the GF this year how damaging he can be, even though he's a different player to a Dustin Martin type.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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how likely are north going to take tauru at pick 2?
Chris Cavanagh
6 hours ago
Highly.
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Hi Chris it seems as soon as you answer a question your answer disappears almost immediately.
Anonymous
5 hours ago
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? him get to do to need they do what and still shanahan jobe get essendon Can
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Jen
5 hours ago
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Who do pies have interest in with their 3 picks (we have 4 but will only take 3 players)
Anonymous
4 hours ago
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can you see west coast putting its future 1st on the table like last year to get back into the top 10, feel the club wants one of travaglia or allan
Anonymous
3 hours ago
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Cal Twomey seemed certain Jagga wouldn't slide to STK, have you heard otherwise and whats your confidence level, considering he was there in the phantom draft?
Anonymous
3 hours ago
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Who are you expecting the dees to take at pick 5 in order of preference? (thinking in terms of probability that Jagga slides to Richmond)
Anonymous
6 hours ago
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Out of Richmond’s 8 top 25 picks, how many do you think will be Key positions, Midfielders, smalls etc?
Chris Cavanagh
7 hours ago
I'm tipping the Tigers to use at least seven picks. They could use the eighth, but would also be happy to trade one into next year and boost their hand there. But they're certain to take a mix of players - at least a couple of gun mids with the first two picks, a couple of key position players, potentially a hybrid forward and a rebounding defender and I also think they take the best ruckman in it - Alex Dodson.
So the main takeaways for us - we have genuine interest in Jagga, and a trade up is more unlikely
The COVID year really would’ve been the ideal time to raise the draft age a year so the league could’ve finally started avoiding these conflicts with year 12 completion dates and the added pressure on these draftees worrying about both getting drafted and doing their best in school.
True but then you run into the issue of what are these young lads going to do for 12months?
Do they reject apprenticeships/job offers because they may get drafted? It’s only us footy obsessed kooks that are craving club news/movement that care that it’s late November.
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I get the feel Draper is top of our ratings whoever is available including Lalor and FOS sadly.
You could be right - I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Smith’s ahead of Langford either, but that might be my bias coming though
Definitely think Draper will be our first option. A lot will depend on who North take (I feel Lalor’s locked into Richmond)
In that scenario I think Carlton takes FOS. Been too much smoke around that connection for a while now
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I'd say thats highly unlikely. We have a likely top 1-5 pick in 2026 in Cody Walker (Andrews boy) and with the revised rules we won't be in a position to trade for any big names like Reid until atleast 2027. We may need to use 2027 picks to get more points in 2026 depending on how we went.
That said, I think we go FOS if hes there. My preference would be Draper though, think he's the best amongst the top 5 for us.
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