Resource 2024 AFL Draft discussion thread (Wed Nov 20 to Fri Nov 22)

[CrowinNT]

I'm not really going to bother listening to phantom drafts other than Twomeys final one. There's no point.

I suggest this is a bit short sighted
In this draft the Great so called T maybe struggling

 

[George Kramer]

If you couldn’t swap future picks then the talk of us trading up to 2 would be dead by now as we don’t have a future second or second this year

 

[Cromulant]

I suggest this is a bit short sighted
In this draft the Great so called T maybe struggling

His last phantom draft is usually after he talks to the teams one last time.

But you're right, I don't think even they know right now what's going to happen

 

[bigman]

I have no doubt smith and Draper are our targets unless Lalor is not picked at 1 by Richmond and he is available for us to pick.

 

[bigman]

I also think it is clear who we want between smith and Draper but that player may not be available if we do not get pick 2

 

[Jack McKraken]

Muddy the waters .

So now we’re after Smith? Look forward to hearing it’s FoS tomorrow. Draft can’t come quick enough!

 

[WaynesWorld19]

sorry i meant why would SAINTS bluff when they didnt get the benefit? Dees got the benefit - so what incentive was there for Saints to help the Dees out?

Obviously ESS thought St Kilda weren't bluffing ....not given they need a small fwd

 

[Crow_68]

I’d imagine we could do this, at least:

Two or three F3’s, plus 82
for
a F2

Then,
4 + F2
for
2

And we walk into next years draft with just a first, fourth and fifth round.

Remember it is likely we will have to replace Tex, Smith and possibly Murphy, Strachan and one or two others. ROB, Crouch and Milera are UFAs. Schoenberg will also be an UFA now.

Unless we have a great 2025 trade/free agency period, we might be up against it to retain list depth.

 

[Brett Cummings]

I'd be more than happy to pass on Draper for a Victorian player

Though the melts, especially on social media, would be hilarious

I'd be happy to pass on draper if there's a better player. Yeah let's not pick a better player cos hes not from sa foh.

 

[George Kramer]

And we walk into next years draft with just a first, fourth and fifth round.

Remember it is likely we will have to replace Tex, Smith and possibly Murphy, Strachan and one or two others. ROB, Crouch and Milera are UFAs. Schoenberg will also be an UFA now.

Unless we have a great 2025 trade/free agency period, we might be up against it to retain list depth.

If ROB, Crouch and Milera go we will get compo unless we bring in free agents.

We can trade in picks, but I’d say we plan on doing what we did this year and take **** all picks and try and get experienced players, ideally Free agents

 

[Danger in Texas]

And we walk into next years draft with just a first, fourth and fifth round.

Remember it is likely we will have to replace Tex, Smith and possibly Murphy, Strachan and one or two others. ROB, Crouch and Milera are UFAs. Schoenberg will also be an UFA now.

Unless we have a great 2025 trade/free agency period, we might be up against it to retain list depth.

We’d have a bit of flexibility. We’d be able to trade future picks two years ahead into the current draft, we can sign free agents (whether they be restricted, unrestricted or even delisted). We can also go from a 38/4 list structure (what we currently have) down to a 36/6 or 37/5 one, if we’re struggling to fill list spots

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I hope you’re correct about North taking Tauru at 2, as we should stay put at 4 if that’s the case. However I’m not 100% on it, and I get the feeling our team aren’t either.

North very likely to take Tauru as they need him & not a midfielder.

We just need to stay calm with pick 4 & take a gun midfielder. We can't lose!

 

[Jcpdragonx]

jagga is the safest pick in this draft along with ashcroft. get him.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

If you couldn’t swap future picks then the talk of us trading up to 2 would be dead by now as we don’t have a future second or second this year

For 3x 3rd rounders though ? Then north convert them ?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Dunno either mate ! But I presume NO

Otherwise the draft would go for longer than a test match

3 days isn't that long ....takes me that long to get thru those supersized popcorn cups

 

[WaynesWorld19]

For 3x 3rd rounders though ? Then north convert them ?

No, the buyer has to do the heavy lifting in these deals

 

[the big lebowski]

All I'm reading into all this media speculation is they haven't got a ****ing clue what any club is doing at the top end, first it was Draper, then it was Langford now it's supposed to be Jagga Smith. They are all guessing that's all that's clear.

Yet most react like any little
Thing they read should be taken as gospel.

Especially if it conforms to what they want personally

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

The Age have claimed they've spoken with 13 recruiters & list managers & come up with this order(with disclaimers on every pick, because they say it's a wide open draft):
Rich - Lalor
NM - Tauru
Carl.- Smith(that's a new twist!)
Ade. - Draper(if Draper gone they state that Crows are strong on Smith & Langford)
Melb. - Langford
Bris. - Ashcroft(surely a club is going to bid on him earlier - what is this, Queensbury Rules?!!)
Rich - Smillie
St.K - FOS (wow!! could he slip this far?)
St.K - Travaglia

And then I nodded off.

Surely Ashcroft bid comes earlier.

Doubt FOS slides that much.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Is this the same HS article? Because if it is, why do they have us taking Draper in their mock, yet are saying we are making a play for Jagga

They are all guessing as rhe clubs with top picks are talking too all possible players.

No one really knows given there is no clear order.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Surely Ashcroft bid comes earlier.

Doubt FOS slides that much.

If NM goes with Tauru (trade or no trade), I suspect the earliest FOS goes is at 5. Won’t fall past the Tigers’ second pick

That said, the same HS article that linked us with Jagga also said that NM were looking at FOS

 

[WaynesWorld19]

His last phantom draft is usually after he talks to the teams one last time.

But you're right, I don't think even they know right now what's going to happen

The whole Draft order is dependent on RICH (Lalor v FOS) and whether NORTH trade #2

Those two calls set the tone for the 1st round

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Hmm, I am starting to think a lot of mind games are going on here. If North are wedded to taking Tauru at 2, then Smith 'might' have slid to Richmonds next pick so they don't go for him at 1 thinking he will get to 6. Does our heavy 'interest' have them take Smith at 1, meaning another player we are very keen on is there at 4 that may not have been? OR we are genuinely interested in Smith ourselves

Who knows?????

I have mentioned several times there is deliberate misinformation from clubs as they are not going to let others know what their priority player is.

 

[Danger in Texas]

The whole Draft order is dependent on RICH (Lalor v FOS) and whether NORTH trade #2

Those two calls set the tone for the 1st round

Do you think NM taking Tauru is dependant on a trade down, or do you think they take him either way at 2 or 4?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I have no doubt smith and Draper are our targets unless Lalor is not picked at 1 by Richmond and he is available for us to pick.

Would be very happy with any of these 3.

 

[119others]

How did you feel about the Dawson deal?

About Peatling?

I think we were happy to offer 28, didn't want to **** around to get a pick a couple of spots lower, and Melbourne didn't want to fuss around to try and get something better.

So much of trade week is a waste of time, it's good to occasionally see two sides just do the obvious deal.

I understand the frustration that we never seem to get an absolute steal - like Geelong or Richmond ripping off GCS or WCE - but that doesn't mean this was a bad deal.

Dawson was a steal IMO. Both at the time (3rd in Swans B&F) and they rated him very highly (wanting our pick 5 which I understand posturing but late teens was unders) and even more once we saw him week in, week out. Great job by Reidy. Needs to aim for one of these every year as Horks used to do.