Resource 2024 AFL Draft discussion thread (Wed Nov 20 to Fri Nov 22)

[StonesThrow]

FO'S and Lalor should both be ranked higher than Draper in terms of what Adelaide actually need in the midfield.

We need bust speed and power but we also need great footskills and cool under pressure a good decision maker

I agree that the Lalor v Draper is similar to Dangerfield v Ebert.

It's almost the most interesting pick we've had, there are so many options as the talent is so even at the top of the draft, nothing is clear cut

It's not like Ebert v danger.

Ebert was more vanilla than Draper. I haven't been Draper's biggest fan early in the year, but watching him in the Sanfl he's anything but vanilla. Has risen to sanfl league in terms of contested game and shown he's able to evade and burst away from the contest at the same time. He's a pure on baller and one with elite agility and very good speed.

I would be happy with Lalor over Draper, but I think we're finally in a position to grab a very good mid with our first pick. O'Sullivan looks high end too and then there's Travaglia.

Only one in not sure about is Smillie. Very big dude but I don't think he actually uses it that well against u18s. Not like Tom Green for example. Lacks a bit of class to overcome that imo.

I've been very wrong on drafts though so we'll see (will hang my hat on will day though)

 

[Disco Fox]

The fact he's still in pick 1 contention after having hardly played this season should tell you the answer to that....also very good overhead and certainly one of the best mids in this draft with that particular ability.

Campo nominated him as the one he'd take if still available at our pick.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

It's not like Ebert v danger.

Ebert was more vanilla than Draper. I haven't been Draper's biggest fan early in the year, but watching him in the Sanfl he's anything but vanilla. Has risen to sanfl league in terms of contested game and shown he's able to evade and burst away from the contest at the same time. He's a pure on baller and one with elite agility and very good speed.

I would be happy with Lalor over Draper, but I think we're finally in a position to grab a very good mid with our first pick. O'Sullivan looks high end too and then there's Travaglia.

Only one in not sure about is Smillie. Very big dude but I don't think he actually uses it that well against u18s. Not like Tom Green for example. Lacks a bit of class to overcome that imo.

I've been very wrong on drafts though so we'll see (will hang my hat on will day though)

Yeah, I’ve warmed to Draper. His attack at the contest and spread from it is elite. I really worry about his disposal though, particularly by foot.

 

[CharlieCrow]

Lot of noise about Harry Boyd from norwood potentially winning the Magarey.
I know nothing about him. It's he too short for an afl ruckman? He could be a break glass late draft or rookie if no one falls our way earlier.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I’d be surprised at this point if FOS or Jagga isn’t Richmond’s choice for #1

Draper to WC at 3, too

Dunno about North, realistically they probably could do with a Lalor type, but they could go a number of different ways

FOS/Lalor/Draper in the first three picks is probably worst case scenario, though I’d still be okay with Smillie or Jagga in that situation

I’m going Jagga in that scenario , a guaranteed AFL high quality mid

Can’t see him getting thru to us

 

[Mostyn]

what better pick than our future first would they get?

For pick 7?

Well, they could get Rioli. Multiple clubs would offer a F1 and 2nds and 3rds this year for points.

We'd be considered a midtable club and our F1 wouldn't be considered the same as a bunch of other clubs.

 

[Mostyn]

You reckon the bald headed dickhead will play a draftee straight up going forward? Will be lucky to be sub before the bye

He played Rachele, Max and Soligo from day one, and that's just off the top of my head.

 

[Mostyn]

In 2022

Max wasn't even drafted then.

Our first draft pick from 2021 played from round one. Our first draft pick from 2022 played from round one. Our first draft pick from 2023 was an injured tall.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

We need a Blight style off season. Laird, Smith, Tex, Crouch... Goodbye

Sadly we don't have the senior depth to cut/trade away all the seniors who are starting to labour

Either need to go very, very young and set the (supposed) rebuild back another 5 years

Or recruit seniors from other clubs to fill the void

Or carry on as is pretending that Smith, Laird, Murphy, ROB and co provide the leadership we need

 

[Redline]

Lot of noise about Harry Boyd from norwood potentially winning the Magarey.
I know nothing about him. It's he too short for an afl ruckman? He could be a break glass late draft or rookie if no one falls our way earlier.

I love Harry and he deserves the chance but I think he is to short for an AFL ruckman. While he has previously played as a forward I think there would be better key forward options.

 

[Sizzlepack]

Quite like the look of Dattoli. Nimble, tough, skilful mid/fwd. If we're able to generate a pick in the early 20s I wouldn't mind calling out his name.

 

[WeeBlake]

Sadly we don't have the senior depth to cut/trade away all the seniors who are starting to labour

Either need to go very, very young and set the (supposed) rebuild back another 5 years

Or recruit seniors from other clubs to fill the void

Or carry on as is pretending that Smith, Laird, Murphy, ROB and co provide the leadership we need

I’ll take option 2 - ANB, Cumming, Daniel for Laird, Murphy and Smith

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Quite like the look of Dattoli. Nimble, tough, skilful mid/fwd. If we're able to generate a pick in the early 20s I wouldn't mind calling out his name.

Yep it’s a good draft for these types , he’s a good one

Probably doesn’t have the speed we desire as a forward but reminds me a little of Robbie Gray

 

[crows dude]

Lot of noise about Harry Boyd from norwood potentially winning the Magarey.
I know nothing about him. It's he too short for an afl ruckman? He could be a break glass late draft or rookie if no one falls our way earlier.

Hes just so much stronger than the other SANFL ruckman so his height doesnt matter so much. He won the Jack Oatey in the 2022 Grand Final. He has dominated this year. Dont think hed be able to do the same to AFL rucks though

 

[Mutineer]

CTL U18's leading stats..

2024 CTL STATS LEADERS​

DISPOSALS (TOTAL):

Thomas McGuane (Western Jets) – 383
Xavier Kardachi (Western Jets) – 348
Jagga Smith (Oakleigh Chargers) – 318
Zak Johnson (Northern Knights) – 310
Lachlan Hogan (Bendigo Pioneers) – 307

DISPOSALS (AVERAGE)*:

Jagga Smith (Oakleigh Chargers) – 35.3
Levi Ashcroft (Sandringham Dragons) – 29.0
Taj Hotton (Sandringham Dragons) – 28.7
Daniel Annable (Lions Academy) – 27.7
Ned Hawkins (Swans Academy) – 27.7

KICKS (TOTAL):

Lachie Jaques (Geelong Falcons) – 224
Xavier Kardachi (Western Jets) – 219
Lachlan Hogan (Bendigo Pioneers) – 203
Damon Hollow (Calder Cannons) – 196
Thomas McGuane (Western Jets) – 196

KICKS (AVERAGE)*:

Nelson Beikoff-Smart (Suns Academy) – 19.0
Jagga Smith (Oakleigh Chargers) – 18.9
Zeke Uwland (Suns Academy) – 18.3
Lachie Jaques (Geelong Falcons) – 17.2
Sam Lalor (GWV Rebels) – 17.0
Luke Trainor (Sandringham Dragons) – 17.0

HANDBALLS (TOTAL):

Thomas McGuane (Western Jets) – 187
Luke Kennedy (Sandringham Dragons) – 151
Tobie Travaglia (Bendigo Pioneers) – 149
Jagga Smith (Oakleigh Chargers) – 148
Nash King (Calder Cannons) – 143
Massimo Raso (Western Jets) – 143

HANDBALLS (AVERAGE)*:

Jagga Smith (Oakleigh Chargers) – 16.4
Daniel Annable (Lions Academy) – 15.7
Levi Ashcroft (Sandringham Dragons) – 15.2
Nash King (Calder Cannons) – 14.3
Murphy Reid (Sandringham Dragons) – 14.0
Taj Hotton (Sandringham Dragons) – 14.0

MARKS (TOTAL):

James Barrat (Bendigo Pioneers) – 87
Mitchell Lloyd (GWV Rebels) – 82
Lachie Jaques (Geelong Falcons) – 81
Asher Eastham (Gippsland Power) – 79
Lucas McInerney (Northern Knights) – 79

MARKS (AVERAGE)*:

James Barrat (Bendigo Pioneers) – 7.3
Taj Hotton (Sandringham Dragons) – 7.3
Sam Lalor (GWV Rebels) – 7.0
Samuel Marshall (Sandringham Dragons) – 7.0
Luke Trainor (Sandringham Dragons) – 7.0

TACKLES (TOTAL)

Xavier Kardachi (Western Jets) – 81
Brodie Atkins (Gippsland Power) – 80
Connor Ling (Tasmania Devils) – 80
Max Mahoney (Murray Bushrangers) – 71
Dom Pitt (Tasmania Devils) – 71

TACKLES (AVERAGE)*:

Declan Fitzpatrick (Swans Academy) – 8.3
Isaiah Markovsky (Oakleigh Chargers) – 7.3
Oscar Van Dam (Tasmania Devils) – 7.0
Daniel Annable (Lions Academy) – 6.3
Cody Anderson (Eastern Ranges) – 6.1

INSIDE 50s (TOTAL):

Max Mahoney (Murray Bushrangers) – 71
Xavier Kardachi (Western Jets) – 69
Damon Hollow (Calder Cannons) – 67
Lucca Grego (Western Jets) – 65
Cooper Ward (Geelong Falcons) – 63

INSIDE 50s (AVERAGE)*:

Sam Lalor (GWV Rebels) – 7.3
Oscar Van Dam (Tasmania Devils) – 6.5
Leo Lombard (Suns Academy) – 6.3
Ned Hawkins (Swans Academy) – 6.0
Cody Anderson (Eastern Ranges) – 5.7

REBOUND 50s (TOTAL):

Archie Taylor (GWV Rebels) – 83
Jack Baldwin (Eastern Ranges) – 80
Lachlan Hogan (Bendigo Pioneers) – 72
Mitchell Lloyd (GWV Rebels) – 70
Lachie Jaques (Geelong Falcons) – 67

REBOUND 50s (AVERAGE)*:

Nelson Beikoff-Smart (Suns Academy) – 7.3
Jake Matthews (Sandringham Dragons) – 6.0
Lachlan McArthur (Western Jets) – 5.8
Tom Wenzel (Oakleigh Chargers) – 5.7
Archie Taylor (GWV Rebels) – 5.5
Lachlan Hogan (Bendigo Pioneers) – 5.5

HITOUTS (TOTAL):

Lucas Impey (Western Jets) – 330
Joe Pike (Geelong Falcons) – 308
Indhi Kotzur (Murray Bushrangers) – 304
Brodie Findlay (Sandringham Dragons) – 297
Zac Harding (Murray Bushrangers) – 183

HITOUTS (AVERAGE)*:

Lucas Impey (Western Jets) – 30.0
Joe Pike (Geelong Falcons) – 28.0
Logan Smith (Giants Academy) – 26.7
Flynn Penry (GWV Rebels) – 23.5
Indhi Kotzur (Murray Bushrangers) – 23.4

GOALS (TOTAL):

Josh Murphy (Murray Bushrangers) – 30
Joe Berry (Murray Bushrangers) – 27
Jack Gerardi (Western Jets) – 26
Will McLachlan (Geelong Falcons) – 26
Matt Whitlock (Murray Bushrangers) – 26

GOALS (AVERAGE)*:

Will McLachlan (Geelong Falcons) – 4.3
Josh Murphy (Murray Bushrangers) – 3.0
Sam Toner (Dandenong Stingrays) – 2.8
Bailey McKenzie (Sandringham Dragons) – 2.7
Ty Gallop (Lions Academy) – 2.7

* – minimum three games

 

[Mutineer]

2024 Coates Talent League Boys Testing Day Results

More than 400 players took part in the 2024 Coates Talent League Boys Testing Day at Thornbury’s Narrandjeri Stadium in preparation for the 2024 season, which commences next week.

www.afl.com.au

It will be interesting how the Draft Combine numbers for some the CTL lads will compare with the preseason testing.
Taj Hotton probably doesn't test (ACL) early in the season. Going to be interesting how Archie Taylor (2025) tests next year after some inbelievable results at this year's testing, had a good under-age year playing mostly as a rebounding defender. Surprising how few of the top hopes either didn't test or didn't make the top 10's.

20m Sprint​

Archie Taylor (GWV Rebels/Cobden) 2.796 sec
Julian Callahan (Gippsland Power/Leongatha) 2.863
Kade Dwyer (Murray Bushrangers/Shepparton Swans) 2.872
Jack Gerardi (Western Jets/West Footscray) 2.874
Thomas Legudi (Calder Cannons/Aberfeldie) 2.878
Blake Leidler (Oakleigh Chargers/Surrey Park) 2.879
Taj Hotton (Sandringham Dragons/Hampton Rovers) 2.882
JayDe Varlet (Dandenong Stingrays/Beaconsfield) 2.884
Cody Anderson (Eastern Ranges/Healesville) 2.885
Ben Seers (Sandringham Dragons/Beaumaris) 2.886

Standing Vertical Jump​

Harley Hicks (GWV Rebels/Lake Wendouree) 83cm
Gabriel Stumpf (Northern Knights/Warrandyte) 79
James Allison (Northern Knights/Montmorency) 77
Daniel Snell (Western Jets/Yarraville Seddon Eagles) 77
Luke Trainor (Sandringham Dragons/Old Brighton) 77
Floyd Burmeister (GWV Rebels/Redan) 76
Brady Hall (Geelong Falcons/Colac) 75
Ryan Muir (Eastern Ranges/Wantirna South) 75
Nash Ramage (Bendigo Pioneers/Echuca United) 75
Jack Whitlock (Murray Bushrangers/Shepparton) 75

Running Vertical Jump (Right)​

Floyd Burmeister (GWV Rebels/Redan) 95cm
Nash Ramage (Bendigo Pioneers/Echuca United) 95
Coen Ainsworth (Murray Bushrangers/Wodonga) 90
Finn O’Sullivan (Oakleigh Chargers/Koroit) 90
Gabriel Stumpf (Northern Knights/Warrandyte) 90
Archie Taylor (GWV Rebels/Cobden) 90
Ollie Hannaford (GWV Rebels/Sandhurst) 89
Harry Armstrong (Sandringham Dragons/Ormond) 87
Ned Renfree (GWV Rebels/East Point) 87
Taj Hotton (Sandringham Dragons/Hampton Rovers) 86

Running Vertical Jump (Left)​

Daniel Snell (Western Jets/Yarraville Seddon Eagles) 102
Ben Rongdit (Geelong Falcons/Colac) 98
Archie Taylor (GWV Rebels/Cobden) 96
Matt Whitlock (Murray Bushrangers/Shepparton) 96
James Allison (Northern Knights/Montmorency) 95
Ned Renfree (GWV Rebels/East Point) 95
Taj Hotton (Sandringham Dragons/Hampton Rovers) 93
Ryan Muir (Eastern Ranges/Wantirna South) 93
Thomas Sims (Northern Knights/Montmorency) 93
Jack Whitlock (Murray Bushrangers/Shepparton) 93

Yo-Yo​

Jett McLaughlan (Northern Knights/Diamond Creek) Level 22.4
Archie Caldow (GWV Rebels/East Point) 22.2
Josh Dolan (Sandringham Dragons/Beaumaris) 22.1
Jeremy Newsome (Eastern Ranges/Healesville) 22.1
Harry Albon (Calder Cannons/Craigieburn) 21.8
Nedd Bennett (GWV Rebels/East Point) 21.8
Ryan Commandeur (Northern Knights/St Mary’s) 21.8
Liam Farrar (Northern Knights/Diamond Creek) 21.8
Patrick Said (Calder Cannons/Sunbury) 21.8
Zach Travers (Sandringham Dragons/Old Brighton) 21.8

AFL Agility​

Douglas Kerr (Oakleigh Chargers/Ashburton) 7.724 sec
Oskar Taylor (Eastern Ranges/Upwey Tecoma) 7.764
Lachy Dovaston (Eastern Ranges/Blackburn) 7.777
Sebastian Murphy (Northern Knights/Montmorency) 7.787
Ollie Hannaford (GWV Rebels/Sandhurst) 7.788
Taj Hotton (Sandringham Dragons/Hampton Rovers) 7.807
Sam McDonald (GWV Rebels/Ballarat) 7.858
Jake Woodward (Northern Knights/Montmorency) 7.866
Nedd Bennett (GWV Rebels/East Point) 7.876
Thomas Sims (Northern Knights/Montmorency) 7.909

 

[ams4crows]

Could West coast trade pick 3 to get Bolton and Baker? Like two senior players for one pick?

 

[ABAB]

I’ll take option 2 - ANB, Cumming, Daniel for Laird, Murphy and Smith

I think you mean ROB, Murphy and Smith. Laird has seen as a leader so has never been in the leadership group?

 

[1990crow]

Could West coast trade pick 3 to get Bolton and Baker? Like two senior players for one pick?

I wouldn't.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Could West coast trade pick 3 to get Bolton and Baker? Like two senior players for one pick?

There is no way in hell they should do that

They need young talent

 

[Sizzlepack]

Could West coast trade pick 3 to get Bolton and Baker? Like two senior players for one pick?

Neither club would be happy with that.

 

[WeeBlake]

Neither club would be happy with that.

Probably about right then?

 

[Mutineer]

 

[Mutineer]

 

[hugecannon]

On Dodson, I hope we’d look at trying to manipulate the draft the way Collingwood did with (?)Alex Condon, get Dodson to go to college and pursue basketball for a couple of years and then sign him as a cat B rookie.

He’ll take at least 3-4 years in the gym before he’s ready to play consistent AFL football anyway, and we don’t have to spend a valuable draft pick this year.