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Which realistically available player SHOULD we pick at #4?

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Uwland just as impressive this week as he was last week.
It's getting ridiculous how good these Northern Academy kids coming through are....their development pathways are killing SA and WA especially the last few years. The time has to come when these clubs have to play full tote odds for their Academy players or the SA and WA clubs should be availed of a sinilar system to develop potential elite prospects
 
Half time
Allies 5.3 33

WA 4.4 28

WA competitive so far with midfielder Luke Urquhart very impressive but telling that he's the only WA player in the top 6 possession winners on the field

Leonardo Lombard 17 disposals (GCS Academy)
Luke Urquhart 15 disposals WA
Daniel Annable 15 disposals (Lions Academy)
Sam Marshall 12 disposals (Lions Academy)
Cooper Bell 11 disposals (GWS Academy)
Zeke Uwland 10 disposals (GCS Academy)
 

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It's no secret how much I love Sharp and have done for years but the things I especially love about is how well he works two ways. So often a mid is really good at finding it but not so good at the defensive side but Sharp tackles as well as anyone. His consistency is as good as I can ever remember from a junior, he very rarely plays a bad game, he may have some lower outputs but he's always at a high level. Tough, strong, works outside the contest to provide outside options, strong overhead, powerful and long kick when he wants to roost it. Inside the contest he puts his head over it with quick hands, absorbs physical contact with ease and generally at stoppages has the play read that half second ahead of his peers. When he wants to drive his legs out of congestion, he's got a strong burst, not to JHF levels, but in a more balanced level. JHF often blasts through so fast he overuns things and fumbles from time to time. Sharp for the most part is a cleaner player.

The main weaknesses I see and they are pretty small at the moment is his top end pace, his delivery inside 50 and his overall upside - he's miles ahead of his peers, but at AFL that gap will be less do we will see how much he does improve from here.

I can see him becoming at least a Ryan Griffen type of player, but probably a stronger version. He's slowed his growth atm, 188cm but if he can get to 190-192cm then he'll be quite a good size. A very long AFL career beckons and if he were available this year, I'd take him at pick 1 without hesitation. He's not gunna be as good as Harley Reid, nor probably JHF, but I'd argue he will bring a consistency to his game like we see with someone like a Serong, week in and week out. He also will easily adapt to playing different positions, is very capable at half back, inside, outside or even forward. Not a one wood Tom Mitchell type. I'd be making aggressive moves to secure his services but I'd say it's prob not going to happen. Prob be at Richmond, Norf or West Coast.
Let's hope we will be offering him the opportunity to do the pre-season with us in 2025.
 
Allies overrun WA in the last quarter, even game up to then..

Allies 10.10 70

WA 7.8 50.

Top 6 possession winners on the field today all Northern Academy aligned.

Leo Lombard clearly B.O.G.and I thought Luke Urquhart best for WA, didn't mind the game of Aiden Riddle who was quite competitive in ruck against the Allies ruck Logan Smith touted as the best ruck in this draft and Malakai Champion looks to be one of the better small forwards in this draft (West Coast NGA).

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It's getting ridiculous how good these Northern Academy kids coming through are....their development pathways are killing SA and WA especially the last few years. The time has to come when these clubs have to play full tote odds for their Academy players or the SA and WA clubs should be availed of a sinilar system to develop potential elite prospects

They look like AFL players playing in an U18's game.

Allies overrun WA in the last quarter, even game up to then..

Allies 10.10 70

WA 7.8 50.

Top 6 possession winners on the field today all Northern Academy aligned.

Leo Lombard clearly B.O.G.and I thought Luke Urquhart best for WA, didn't mind the game of Aiden Riddle who was quite competitive in ruck against the Allies ruck Logan Smith touted as the best ruck in this draft and Malakai Champion looks to be one of the better small forwards in this draft (West Coast NGA).

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Liked Josaia Delana's game as well. Strong defensive side to his game. I think they said he was linked to GWS.
 
At the start of the season sounded like we were going to trade our first pick but now that we are likely to finish pretty low on the ladder is the general consensus that we will now use our first pick. From what haggis said the other day sounds like we rate this draft pretty high.

With there being some very good midfielders high in this year's draft surely we use our first pick.
 
This years first, and trade next years first into it as well…hopefully before Welsh bid too
It's the right time to do it

Most would predict we'll be bottom six next season and would value our first rounder accordingly

I think we're capable of being better than that, provided there's a coaching change
 

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This years first, and trade next years first into it as well…hopefully before Welsh bid too
I would since it will also give us another 2nd or 3rd rounder to use as points for Welsh as well and then bank on this being a down year with a fit Murray, Thilthorpe and Pedlar back next year but this will also mean Nicks will see out his last contract year or we will get lucky and he get sack mid next year and we rise up the ladder.
 
I hope small forward/mid Benny Barrett is on our radar inside pick 40 before Port snaffle him as an NGA.

Obviously we can trade back in - but unlikely we will have any picks between our first and pick 40
Currently pick 28 and 43 give us enough points to match pick 12/13 for Welsh

So may get more picks through players traded out, or trade a future in but may be challenging to position ourselves.

Thoughts on his team mate Hargreaves?


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Urquhart was WA's best on the day, his size and competitiveness was influential at stoppage and he was typically damaging with his penetrating right boot. He played 100% midfield in this game which is different to his typical role at Colts level where he rests in the forward line, and he did fade in the second half which coincided with the Allies getting on top of the territory battle.

 
If a big fish did come along, would you spend our 1st on them or go to draft, which is loaded with mids at the top?

Given where we’re at, wisdom would say draft but given Ogilvy’s track record, maybe we need to recruit our high end talent.
 
Jevan Phillipou is going to be joining brother Mattaes on an AFL list after next year's draft, nothing more certain...has an amaxzing hoof on him.

Welsh with his 2nd snag

Decent quality game,
and has that 6th sense awareness Bicks that only some possess. Knows where others - team mates and opposition are always.
 
Highly doubt many teams will want to do that without incentive
Maybe…but wouldn’t it be worth it for us to provide an incentive to get a first round midfielder a year early?

I would much rather over pay a bit of draft capital and get what we need in a area of need than trying to build slowly and still fail to have the quality in the team when we need it.

Some teams may have plans to move capital into next year….Suns have plenty of draft capital again.
 
Maybe…but wouldn’t it be worth it for us to provide an incentive to get a first round midfielder a year early?

I would much rather over pay a bit of draft capital and get what we need in a area of need than trying to build slowly and still fail to have the quality in the team when we need it.

Some teams may have plans to move capital into next year….Suns have plenty of draft capital again.
I get it, but a team like GC would want some later picks in this year's draft (along with the F1) to match a Lombard bid... problem is, we are also another team that needs late picks

Also - trading our F1 would make it a lot more difficult to bring in a trade target next year, possibly someone like a NWM (though it sounds like we aren't having much success chasing players this year yet, so maybe it's a sound plan lol)
 
I get it, but a team like GC would want some later picks in this year's draft (along with the F1) to match a Lombard bid... problem is, we are also another team that needs late picks

Also - trading our F1 would make it a lot more difficult to bring in a trade target next year, possibly someone like a NWM (though it sounds like we aren't having much success chasing players this year yet, so maybe it's a sound plan lol)
Hamish also basically said Wanganeen-Milera was next on our list if Josh Rachele had been taken by the Suns in that feenix67 youtube interview I posted earlier today, no doubt NWM is fully aware that we had big interest in his draft year, he also said they keep tracking players they had big interest in in past drafts. I reckon we'd be seriously putting some work into NWM and his management.
 
Hamish also basically said Wanganeen-Milera was next on our list if Josh Rachele had been taken by the Suns in that feenix67 youtube interview I posted earlier today, no doubt NWM is fully aware that we had big interest in his draft year, he also said they keep tracking players they had big interest in in past drafts. I reckon we'd be seriously putting some work into NWM and his management.
Yeah I'd imagine we're keeping in pretty constant contact

Hopefully he doesn't think like Dawson and Rankine, and decide to go to the team he supported growing up, though :grimacing:


“Growing up I always was (a Saints fan) when dad played there for a couple of years, but then I sort of went to Port Adelaide,” Wanganeen-Milera says.
 
Hamish also basically said Wanganeen-Milera was next on our list if Josh Rachele had been taken by the Suns in that feenix67 youtube interview I posted earlier today, no doubt NWM is fully aware that we had big interest in his draft year, he also said they keep tracking players they had big interest in in past drafts. I reckon we'd be seriously putting some work into NWM and his management.
We would be derelict in our duty if we weren’t going hard at NWM…
Trade into this years draft for the hope of an A grade mid, or the hope of trading it next year for an A grade mid - which option do we have more of a chance of implementing?
 

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