Analysis 2024 AFL Draft General Discussion

[Ura]

Yes, I am. So far it's nothing to get excited by, especially if you don't have a northern academy. We'll have a top end pick next year. Yours might be 7+, pushed closer to 15 by all the academy kids. We know what we can get at 11 and 20 this year and it's two bloody good young players. We're not giving that away for one possible next year.

Agree, I love your ambition for us next year though. Next year is far more compromised at the moment but i am loving the top end. I find it hard to see us moving out of bottom 4 which is where i see that talent next year.
Interesting question how many picks do you think the tigers take from this draft? I assume you will trade some into next year. My guess is the golden number is 5 or 6.

 

[richoatthedisco]

Agree, I love your ambition for us next year though. Next year is far more compromised at the moment but i am loving the top end. I find it hard to see us moving out of bottom 4 which is where i see that talent next year.
Interesting question how many picks do you think the tigers take from this draft? I assume you will trade some into next year. My guess is the golden number is 5 or 6.

We'll take at least six, maybe seven.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Find it hilarious these geniuses who keep sprouting dees “need a key forward”. Yeah maybe back in 2021 we did, now we have JvR, Jefferson, Turner, Petty, Kentfield and Fullerton on our list developing. If we take another they won’t even get a run in the 2s.

We have also lost Brayshaw, Harmes, Jordan, Dunstan and Neal-Bullen as mids in last 12 months.

But yeah, we are going to take Armstrong in a midfielders draft with a top pick so he can develop in our 3rds.

How’s Jefferson coming along btw

 

[Mutineer]

Draper is in the conversation as the best SA prospect of the modern era and would be in the #1 pick discussion if he was born in Melbourne.

I like Phillipou, but he was nowhere close to the likes of Gibbs/JHF/Draper in their draft years.

Did you consider Phillipou's birthdate into your opinion...born 4 days later he'd have been in the following year's draft instead of playing 24 AFL games!

 

[jumperfan]

There's only one way to settle this, Draper should go to Saints so we can actually compare. Phillipou has been playing for a poor side so as a young kid he's bound to have some poor performances too. Been watching SA draftees for ages, I'd personally have JHF way above any other SA draftee in modern era. Rozee would be a distant 2nd and Phillipou and Draper are tied.

This draft's top end talent isn't as early as other drafts. It's great and deep, not elite and deep. There's no JHF, Daicos, Darcy, Reid even Walsh and Rowell right at the top end. The reason why no one can pick out a #1 pick is because all prospects have had a bit of inconsistency throughout the year but have had some brilliant outings. Draper perhaps the most consistent, which is why he's in discussions as the best prospect but otherwise, his ceiling is lower but floor is higher. Phillipou's ceiling is at another level if he plays at a club with an aggressive gameplan and good development.

This is a good idea. Can all clubs before pick 7 make sure to pass on Draper for the sake of resolving this argument scientifically?

 

[Lingsface]

Who are your top 3 safe bets of the draft?

My safe bet is Sid Draper at number 1.

I think is a guaranteed good midfielder, maybe not the ceiling of some but seems as though his basement is higher than others.

I’d say above expectations-
Simon Black

Probably
Jack Steele

9

Jack Steele

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

8.7

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

6.8

5star

CL

3.6

5star

D

21.3

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

16.8

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

11.8

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

6.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

Basement
Darcy Parish

3

Darcy Parish

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.4

5star

K

9.2

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

3.3

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

9.1

5star

M

1.4

2star

T

2.0

3star

CL

3.1

4star

D

22.2

5star

K

7.6

3star

HB

14.6

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

My next is a surprise but I would say
Kayle Gerreyn

I love his competitive nature, a guy that big and the way he attacks and his physical attributes he is a safe bet to make a contest at any level.

Ceiling
Joe Daniher/Nic Nat

Probably
David Hille

David Hille

Age

43

Ht

202cm

Wt

108kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.4

3star

G

0.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

6.4

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.2

3star

T

0.4

3star

G

0.2

3star

Basement
Pittonet

My number 3 is Hamish Davis

He moves so well can play anywhere and is a fit in multiple positions.

Ceiling
Nat Fyfe/Heeney

Probably
Embley

Basement
Hayward/ O Henry

 

[Northernsoul74]

Travaglia.

 

[master bate]

How’s Jefferson coming along btw

29 goals in 17 games including a couple early where they tried him down back, so started to hit that 2 goals a game range and 2nd most in the VFL for non AFL listed players.

There's some promise, but I'd say at this stage it's probably 50:50 whether he really makes it soon or might be a long term fringe type. Noticeably stronger but still a fair way off body wise.

He was much better than last year and started to increase his marks, disposals and tackles not just his goal kicking. If he makes it soon he's got a lot of class and will do some special things.

 

[master bate]

Draper is in the conversation as the best SA prospect of the modern era and would be in the #1 pick discussion if he was born in Melbourne.

I like Phillipou, but he was nowhere close to the likes of Gibbs/JHF/Draper in their draft years.

Off the top of my head in recent history:

JHF
Gibbs
Rankine
Cooney

Daylight

Trengove
Thilthorpe
Rozee
Griffen
Lukosius
James Aish!

Then maybe:

Draper.

After Ashcroft this draft is soft at the top, if anyone had stepped up and claimed they number 1 pick spot they'd have been anointed no matter where they come from.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Off the top of my head in recent history:

JHF
Gibbs
Rankine
Cooney

Daylight

Trengove
Thilthorpe
Rozee
Griffen
Lukosius
James Aish!

Then maybe:

Draper.

After Ashcroft this draft is soft at the top, if anyone had stepped up and claimed they number 1 pick spot they'd have been anointed no matter where they come from.

Your ranking of Trengove is way, way too high!

 

[TryAnHit]

Find it hilarious these geniuses who keep sprouting dees “need a key forward”. Yeah maybe back in 2021 we did, now we have JvR, Jefferson, Turner, Petty, Kentfield and Fullerton on our list developing. If we take another they won’t even get a run in the 2s.

We have also lost Brayshaw, Harmes, Jordan, Dunstan and Neal-Bullen as mids in last 12 months.

But yeah, we are going to take Armstrong in a midfielders draft with a top pick so he can develop in our 3rds.

Lost us at Petty

 

[WilloTree]

Jagga Smith
Levi Ashcroft
Leo Lombard

 

[Profop]

Your ranking of Trengove is way, way too high!

I think he’s rating what they were as prospects coming into the AFL not rating their careers once in the AFL

Trengove was very highly rated (hence why he was taken so early) based on his junior performances

 

[Futbolista]

Here we go folks. It's a Kayle Gerreyn (WP/West Australia) interview. Let's see if how he shapes up.

 

[LB2Snake]

Here we go folks. It's a Kayle Gerreyn (WP/West Australia) interview. Let's see if how he shapes up.

He’s a really likeable prospect I reckon. Can play, seems really down to earth. Has some serious AFL traits too.

 

[Houndude619]

Rewatched the 2023 Futures game. Tried to clip up the full last centre clearance below (Lombard - Camporeale - Gillett - Trainor - Johnson - Mentha).

12 months on and going into the draft how many of the 46 that played get drafted? How many likely to be sure things/smokeys/missing?

 

[Mich0]

How’s Jefferson coming along btw

Not too bad, was kicking bags in VFL late this season so should be in the 1s pretty soon. Put on some good weight.

 

[Mich0]

Lost us at Petty

How so? He is a developing forward, and how does that negate the fact that we have 5-6 others also developing in that position?

 

[UpTheGutz]

Well then…

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' October ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey delivers his fourth Phantom Form Guide ahead of the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Caps lock warning.

Callum Twomey's latest top 30. (Not sure why he doesn't push it out to 50.)

01: LEVI ASHCROFT.
02: FINN O'SULLIVAN.
03: HARVEY LANGFORD.
04: SAM LALOR.
05: JAGGA SMITH.
06: MURPHY REID.
07: SID DRAPER.
08: JOSH SMILLIE.
09: ALIX TAURU.
10: HARRY ARMSTRONG.
11: TOBIE TRAVAGLIA.
12: BO ALLAN.
13: LEONARDO LOMBARD.
14: ISAAC KAKO.
15: TAJ HOTTON.
16: XAVIER LINDSAY.
17: LUKE TRAINOR.
18: JOE BERRY.
19: JACK WHITLOCK.
20: JOBE SHANAHAN.
21: COOPER HYNES.
22: SAM MARSHALL.
23: MATT WHITLOCK.
24: JESSE DATTOLI.
25: JONTY FAULL.
26: HARRISON OLIVER.
27: TOM GROSS.
28: OLLIE HANNAFORD.
29: ALEX DODSON.
30: CHRISTIAN MORAES.

 

[Mostyn]

How so? He is a developing forward, and how does that negate the fact that we have 5-6 others also developing in that position?

Probably because Perry is a defender. He is nowhere near an AFL quality forward.

 

[noobermensch]

Here we go folks. It's a Kayle Gerreyn (WP/West Australia) interview. Let's see if how he shapes up.

The bit about the Wesley College "music scholarship" was interesting.

 

[bulldogs201616]

Caps lock warning.

Callum Twomey's latest top 30. (Not sure why he doesn't push it out to 50.)

01: LEVI ASHCROFT.
02: FINN O'SULLIVAN.
03: HARVEY LANGFORD.
04: SAM LALOR.
05: JAGGA SMITH.
06: MURPHY REID.
07: SID DRAPER.
08: JOSH SMILLIE.
09: ALIX TAURU.
10: HARRY ARMSTRONG.
11: TOBIE TRAVAGLIA.
12: BO ALLAN.
13: LEONARDO LOMBARD.
14: ISAAC KAKO.
15: TAJ HOTTON.
16: XAVIER LINDSAY.
17: LUKE TRAINOR.
18: JOE BERRY.
19: JACK WHITLOCK.
20: JOBE SHANAHAN.
21: COOPER HYNES.
22: SAM MARSHALL.
23: MATT WHITLOCK.
24: JESSE DATTOLI.
25: JONTY FAULL.
26: HARRISON OLIVER.
27: TOM GROSS.
28: OLLIE HANNAFORD.
29: ALEX DODSON.
30: CHRISTIAN MORAES.

He loves Harvey Langford doesn't he. Ive noticed most people have him around the 5-10 mark but Twomey has him top 3

 

[4tune8]

He loves Harvey Langford doesn't he. Ive noticed most people have him around the 5-10 mark but Twomey has him top 3

I'd be stoked if the Tigers didn't trade up and we could grab him at 6 (7)

 

[danster168]

Caps lock warning.

Callum Twomey's latest top 30. (Not sure why he doesn't push it out to 50.)

01: LEVI ASHCROFT.
02: FINN O'SULLIVAN.
03: HARVEY LANGFORD.
04: SAM LALOR.
05: JAGGA SMITH.
06: MURPHY REID.
07: SID DRAPER.
08: JOSH SMILLIE.
09: ALIX TAURU.
10: HARRY ARMSTRONG.
11: TOBIE TRAVAGLIA.
12: BO ALLAN.
13: LEONARDO LOMBARD.
14: ISAAC KAKO.
15: TAJ HOTTON.
16: XAVIER LINDSAY.
17: LUKE TRAINOR.
18: JOE BERRY.
19: JACK WHITLOCK.
20: JOBE SHANAHAN.
21: COOPER HYNES.
22: SAM MARSHALL.
23: MATT WHITLOCK.
24: JESSE DATTOLI.
25: JONTY FAULL.
26: HARRISON OLIVER.
27: TOM GROSS.
28: OLLIE HANNAFORD.
29: ALEX DODSON.
30: CHRISTIAN MORAES.

I've never understood why people care about Cal's top 30..? It's not even a mock draft so it's really just his opinion which carries as much weight as any random Bigfooty poster. It also makes no sense that it would even change just because of a draft camp. Recruiters don't care too much about draft camp results.

Also, the fact that Twomey's top 30 happens to be very close to the draft order makes no sense. if it was a genuine top 30, he'd have many 'personal favourites'. For example, Dodson at pick 5, Lindsay at pick 3, things like this.