List Mgmt. 2024 AFL Draft - November 20-21 (Picks 13, 29, 36, 50, 94, 112, 130)

[Ford Fairlane]

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[Imhotep]

Nobody on any of the other boards are screaming Josh Smillie.

It would be a ridiculous slide but it's not impossible.

Melbourne's pick 9 might be gettable if we wanted to sell 13 and our next 2?

You'd think about it?

We need a Ollie replacement and that's not happening once Tasmania come in. Sharp is at Richmond next year.

Jesus Christ I hope not he's a horrible kick. Good luck to who ever gets this bloke he's going to burn the ball every possession.

 

[Addy23]

If it's not Hotton or Tauru or Reid, we gotta split pick 13 say for 18 and 20 from Richmond. Then that puts us in position for Shanahan and Hannaford. I don't see Jagga, Langford, Lalor, FOS, Draper and Armstrong slipping through to us and tbh Tauru and Reid are unrealistic too.

If we take any Half-Backs in this draft I'm gonna throw up (other than Burgoyne)

 

[PJ Power]

If it's not Hotton or Tauru or Reid, we gotta split pick 13 say for 18 and 20 from Richmond. Then that puts us in position for Shanahan and Hannaford. I don't see Jagga, Langford, Lalor, FOS, Draper and Armstrong slipping through to us and tbh Tauru and Reid are unrealistic too.

If we take any Half-Backs in this draft I'm gonna throw up (other than Burgoyne)

How big are you on Hotton?

I’ve watched his 2024 highlights and the quality is clearly there but I’m a fraction put off by his highish (almost loopy) kicks. Still, if that’s what is available at pick 13, you’d jump at it.

 

[rumoursofwinter]

Should we be stocking up on a couple of kpp whilst we get the chance?

 

[shewho]

Berry or Hotton are the best fits for us at 13- immediate impact as a forward and a big upgrade on our 7th forward.

Dobson at 29 would solve all ruck problems moving forward- given Soldo goes at year’s end.

After that we need a key back but Gerryn may be the go.

I want Barratt, Rome and Montgomery.

 

[davesnothere]

Should we be stocking up on a couple of kpp whilst we get the chance?

Think that's what happens if we don't get the player we want at 13. Trade 13 to the Swans and go for KPPs.

That is not a bad strategy.

It's just that we have the same issue getting a quality mid before Tasmania come in as we do getting key position players.

Smillie is a quality inside mid. Hotton just looks quality.

 

[Macca19]

Nobody on any of the other boards are screaming Josh Smillie.

It would be a ridiculous slide but it's not impossible.

Melbourne's pick 9 might be gettable if we wanted to sell 13 and our next 2?

You'd think about it?

We need a Ollie replacement and that's not happening once Tasmania come in. Sharp is at Richmond next year.

In my top 2. Will be a gun. Groupthink is alive and well

 

[Macca19]

Should we be stocking up on a couple of kpp whilst we get the chance?

If Armstrong is available at our pick we should be picking him, even though i rate Hotton higher. Shanahan as well i’d be happy with at 13.

 

[Addy23]

How big are you on Hotton?

I’ve watched his 2024 highlights and the quality is clearly there but I’m a fraction put off by his highish (almost loopy) kicks. Still, if that’s what is available at pick 13, you’d jump at it.

I'm big on him as a forward rather than a midfielder tbh. I see a bit of Shai Bolton in the way he moves and gets around traffic and creates those shots at goal. He does those loopy kicks to get distance when he's on wing. But I don't think that'll be his position in AFL. He should be playing within 70m from goal where he's dynamic and makes things happen.

The question is which quartet would we prefer?

Hotton, Gerryne, Urquhart and one of Murphy/Day-Wicks/Bowman

Shanahan, Hannaford, Gerryne and Urquhart

 

[Addy23]

If Armstrong is available at our pick we should be picking him, even though i rate Hotton higher. Shanahan as well i’d be happy with at 13.

I am not that big on Armstrong, especially because I feel like if we draft someone like him we will look to continue to bomb it in.

I actually prefer Shanahan out of the 2, feel like he's a better all round tall forward.

 

[Addy23]

Should we be stocking up on a couple of kpp whilst we get the chance?

I think you'll find that modern footy has changed the typical KPPs that were beasts like Dixon. I personally prefer we take Gerryne who can play forward ruck or Charlie West later in the draft. Clancy Dennis is an option for KPD.

In a draft as midfield heavy as this, I don't think we should be taking more than 1 KPP

God I wish we had the currency to trade up. I would've given up a lot to get Tauru. Will be a gun!

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I am not that big on Armstrong, especially because I feel like if we draft someone like him we will look to continue to bomb it in.

I actually prefer Shanahan out of the 2, feel like he's a better all round tall forward.

But nobody is going to pick an 18 year old kid as a bomb long target in senior football, that would be madness. And please no Hinkley hur dur, nobody would do it.

It would take him 4 years at least to be that sort of option and at 195cm he's not even that big. Do you really think we would have the same forward strategy in 4 years with Hinkley long gone?

And every club wants a big option up forward for the bail out kick, if he is going to develop into a physically big player.

I've only seen a couple of minutes of highlights but he appears to kick a few goals from long range so he must be leading for the ball and has actual forward craft.

Gerryne is probably more a bomb long target.

 

[Port2Power]

Herald Sun October Ranking 16/10/24

1. Levi Ashcroft - 179cm mid (Lions F/S)
2. Jagga Smith - 182cm Mid
3. Finn O'Sullivan - 182cm Mid
4. Harvey Lanford - 191cm Mid
5. Sid Draper - 182cm Mid
6. Sam Lalor - 188cm Mid/fwd
7. Murphy Reid - 181cm Mid
8. Josh Smille - 195cm Mid
9. Harry Armstrong - 195cm key fwd
10. Leo Lombard - 179cm mid/fwd (Suns Academy)

11. Tobie Travaglia - 187cm mid/def
12. Alixzander Tauru - 193cm def/fwd
13. Luke Trainor - 194cm def
14. Bo Allan - 191cm mid/def
15. Isaac Kako - 176cm fwd (Essendon NGA)
16. Jobe Shanahan - 195cm key fwd
17. Taj Hotton - 182cm mid/fwd (acl -injured)
18. Xavier Lindsay - 183cm mid
19. Sam Marshall - 185cm mid (Lions Academy)
20. Jack Whitlock - 200cm key fwd

21. Alex Dodson - 201cm ruck
22. Joe Berry - 181cm fwd
23. Cooper Hynes - 191cm mid/fwd
24. Jonty Faull - 195cm key fwd
25. Jessee Dattoli - 179cm fwd/mid
26. Matt Whitlock - 198cm key def/fwd
27. Ollie Hannaford - 180cm fwd
28. Tom Gross - 181cm mid/fwd
29. Christian Morales - 183cm mid/fwd
30. Noah Mraz - 198cm def

31. Ben Camporeale - 186cm mid (Carlton F/S)
32. Hamish Davis - 190cm fwd/mid
33. Jack Ough - 194cm def/mid
34. Harrison Oliver - 181cm def
35. James Barrat - 194cm def/fwd
36. Logan Smith - 204cm ruck (Giants Academy)
37. Lachie Jacques - 184cm def
38. Harry O'Farrell - 197cm def
39. Angus Clarke - 189cm def
40. Archer-Day Wicks - 186cm fwd

41. Kayle Gerryn - 199cm fwd/ruck
42. Adrian Cole - 194cm def (St Kilda NGA)
43. Tom Sims - 199cm fwd/ruck
44. Charlie Nicholls - 197cm fwd/def
45. Floyd Burmeister - 199cm ruck/fwd
46. Nathaniel Sulzberger - 187cm fwd/mid
47. Xavier Ivisic - 180cm fwd/mid
48. Joel Cochran - 194cm def (Sydney Academy)
49. Josh Dolan - 177cm fwd/mid
50. Clancy Dennis - 195cm def

51. Lennox Hofmann - 190cm def (St Kilda NGA)
52. Lucas Camporeale - 184cm mid/def
53. Jasper Alger - 183cm fwd
54. Bailey Mckenzie - 191cm fwd
55. Riley Bice - 185cm def (mature ager)
56. Malakai Champion - 172cm fwd (Eagles NGA)
57. Tyler Welsh - 191cm fwd (Adelaide F/S)
58. Sam Davidson - 191cm fwd (mature ager)
59. Sam Toner - 186cm fwd
60. Gabriel Stumpf - 196cm key fwd

 

[davesnothere]

Herald Sun October Ranking 16/10/24

1. Levi Ashcroft - 179cm mid (Lions F/S)
2. Jagga Smith - 182cm Mid
3. Finn O'Sullivan - 182cm Mid
4. Harvey Lanford - 191cm Mid
5. Sid Draper - 182cm Mid
6. Sam Lalor - 188cm Mid/fwd
7. Murphy Reid - 181cm Mid
8. Josh Smille - 195cm Mid
9. Harry Armstrong - 195cm key fwd
10. Leo Lombard - 179cm mid/fwd (Suns Academy)

11. Tobie Travaglia - 187cm mid/def
12. Alixzander Tauru - 193cm def/fwd
13. Luke Trainor - 194cm def
14. Bo Allan - 191cm mid/def
15. Isaac Kako - 176cm fwd (Essendon NGA)
16. Jobe Shanahan - 195cm key fwd
17. Taj Hotton - 182cm mid/fwd (acl -injured)
18. Xavier Lindsay - 183cm mid
19. Sam Marshall - 185cm mid (Lions Academy)
20. Jack Whitlock - 200cm key fwd

21. Alex Dodson - 201cm ruck
22. Joe Berry - 181cm fwd
23. Cooper Hynes - 191cm mid/fwd
24. Jonty Faull - 195cm key fwd
25. Jessee Dattoli - 179cm fwd/mid
26. Matt Whitlock - 198cm key def/fwd
27. Ollie Hannaford - 180cm fwd
28. Tom Gross - 181cm mid/fwd
29. Christian Morales - 183cm mid/fwd
30. Noah Mraz - 198cm def

31. Ben Camporeale - 186cm mid (Carlton F/S)
32. Hamish Davis - 190cm fwd/mid
33. Jack Ough - 194cm def/mid
34. Harrison Oliver - 181cm def
35. James Barrat - 194cm def/fwd
36. Logan Smith - 204cm ruck (Giants Academy)
37. Lachie Jacques - 184cm def
38. Harry O'Farrell - 197cm def
39. Angus Clarke - 189cm def
40. Archer-Day Wicks - 186cm fwd

41. Kayle Gerryn - 199cm fwd/ruck
42. Adrian Cole - 194cm def (St Kilda NGA)
43. Tom Sims - 199cm fwd/ruck
44. Charlie Nicholls - 197cm fwd/def
45. Floyd Burmeister - 199cm ruck/fwd
46. Nathaniel Sulzberger - 187cm fwd/mid
47. Xavier Ivisic - 180cm fwd/mid
48. Joel Cochran - 194cm def (Sydney Academy)
49. Josh Dolan - 177cm fwd/mid
50. Clancy Dennis - 195cm def

51. Lennox Hofmann - 190cm def (St Kilda NGA)
52. Lucas Camporeale - 184cm mid/def
53. Jasper Alger - 183cm fwd
54. Bailey Mckenzie - 191cm fwd
55. Riley Bice - 185cm def (mature ager)
56. Malakai Champion - 172cm fwd (Eagles NGA)
57. Tyler Welsh - 191cm fwd (Adelaide F/S)
58. Sam Davidson - 191cm fwd (mature ager)
59. Sam Toner - 186cm fwd
60. Gabriel Stumpf - 196cm key fwd

I look at Christian Moraes who they have at 29 and can't help but think of Jasper Pittard.

That would be a fun pick.

 

[Rash]

Herald Sun October Ranking 16/10/24

1. Levi Ashcroft - 179cm mid (Lions F/S)
2. Jagga Smith - 182cm Mid
3. Finn O'Sullivan - 182cm Mid
4. Harvey Lanford - 191cm Mid
5. Sid Draper - 182cm Mid
6. Sam Lalor - 188cm Mid/fwd
7. Murphy Reid - 181cm Mid
8. Josh Smille - 195cm Mid
9. Harry Armstrong - 195cm key fwd
10. Leo Lombard - 179cm mid/fwd (Suns Academy)

11. Tobie Travaglia - 187cm mid/def
12. Alixzander Tauru - 193cm def/fwd
13. Luke Trainor - 194cm def
14. Bo Allan - 191cm mid/def
15. Isaac Kako - 176cm fwd (Essendon NGA)
16. Jobe Shanahan - 195cm key fwd
17. Taj Hotton - 182cm mid/fwd (acl -injured)
18. Xavier Lindsay - 183cm mid
19. Sam Marshall - 185cm mid (Lions Academy)
20. Jack Whitlock - 200cm key fwd

21. Alex Dodson - 201cm ruck
22. Joe Berry - 181cm fwd
23. Cooper Hynes - 191cm mid/fwd
24. Jonty Faull - 195cm key fwd
25. Jessee Dattoli - 179cm fwd/mid
26. Matt Whitlock - 198cm key def/fwd
27. Ollie Hannaford - 180cm fwd
28. Tom Gross - 181cm mid/fwd
29. Christian Morales - 183cm mid/fwd
30. Noah Mraz - 198cm def

31. Ben Camporeale - 186cm mid (Carlton F/S)
32. Hamish Davis - 190cm fwd/mid
33. Jack Ough - 194cm def/mid
34. Harrison Oliver - 181cm def
35. James Barrat - 194cm def/fwd
36. Logan Smith - 204cm ruck (Giants Academy)
37. Lachie Jacques - 184cm def
38. Harry O'Farrell - 197cm def
39. Angus Clarke - 189cm def
40. Archer-Day Wicks - 186cm fwd

41. Kayle Gerryn - 199cm fwd/ruck
42. Adrian Cole - 194cm def (St Kilda NGA)
43. Tom Sims - 199cm fwd/ruck
44. Charlie Nicholls - 197cm fwd/def
45. Floyd Burmeister - 199cm ruck/fwd
46. Nathaniel Sulzberger - 187cm fwd/mid
47. Xavier Ivisic - 180cm fwd/mid
48. Joel Cochran - 194cm def (Sydney Academy)
49. Josh Dolan - 177cm fwd/mid
50. Clancy Dennis - 195cm def

51. Lennox Hofmann - 190cm def (St Kilda NGA)
52. Lucas Camporeale - 184cm mid/def
53. Jasper Alger - 183cm fwd
54. Bailey Mckenzie - 191cm fwd
55. Riley Bice - 185cm def (mature ager)
56. Malakai Champion - 172cm fwd (Eagles NGA)
57. Tyler Welsh - 191cm fwd (Adelaide F/S)
58. Sam Davidson - 191cm fwd (mature ager)
59. Sam Toner - 186cm fwd
60. Gabriel Stumpf - 196cm key fwd

If Alix Tauru is available, im taking him over Hotton, Allan and Armstrong.

 

[wayb2912]

If Alix Tauru is available, im taking him over Hotton, Allan and Armstrong.

Hes my favourite in the draft, kind of reminds me of a mix between Noah Balta and Mitch Georgiades

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[Ford Fairlane]

Take out the F-S and Academy players before our pick and that's a handy group of players in our range

 

[It Just Is]

But nobody is going to pick an 18 year old kid as a bomb long target in senior football, that would be madness. And please no Hinkley hur dur, nobody would do it.

It would take him 4 years at least to be that sort of option and at 195cm he's not even that big. Do you really think we would have the same forward strategy in 4 years with Hinkley long gone?

And every club wants a big option up forward for the bail out kick, if he is going to develop into a physically big player.

I've only seen a couple of minutes of highlights but he appears to kick a few goals from long range so he must be leading for the ball and has actual forward craft.

Gerryne is probably more a bomb long target.

We just used a future first round pick on Jack Lukosius. Our last 20 years of drafting says it’s highly unlikely we also use a first round pick on a key position player no matter how good they are.

 

[davesnothere]

If Alix Tauru is available, im taking him over Hotton, Allan and Armstrong.

Ross Lyon is apparently all over him.

Expect the Saints to take him.

 

[Brian McGee]

We just used a future first round pick on Jack Lukosius. Our last 20 years of drafting says it’s highly unlikely we also use a first round pick on a key position player no matter how good they are.

I don’t think we should either. Lukosious, Marshall (if ok), gerogiades, finlayson and lord is ample ready to play talls.

If they like gerryn as the developing ruck/powerful forward with one of the later 2 picks that would be ok.

 

[It Just Is]

Ross Lyon is apparently all over him.

Expect the Saints to take him.

I have no inside knowledge but would bet on St Kilda taking Travaglia too. St Kilda under Ross are building a game plan based on running power and are drafting/recruiting accordingly.

 

[Brian McGee]

I have no inside knowledge but would bet on St Kilda taking Travaglia too. St Kilda under Ross are building a game plan based on running power and are drafting/recruiting accordingly.

I would have thought they would be desperate for best available mid.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

The question is which quartet would we prefer?

Hotton, Gerryne, Urquhart and one of Murphy/Day-Wicks/Bowman

Shanahan, Hannaford, Gerryne and Urquhart

I really like Hotton but I would prefer a talented KPF, a dynamic small forward, a skilled ruck and a hard WA mid.

 

[It Just Is]

I would have thought they would be desperate for best available mid.

That’s true. I think clubs will see Travaglia as a mid.

 

[PortAdelFC1997]

if we get a tall forward like Armstrong, Tom Scully

21

Tom Scully

Age

33

Ht

181cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

9.9

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.5

5star

CL

2.3

4star

D

12.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

5.1

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.1

2star

CL

0.8

3star

D

19.8

5star

K

8.8

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

4.6

5star

CL

3.8

5star

will get the axe. Same with Kyle Marshall if we draft a tall defender.

I think we need a small lockdown defender who can take on the speedy small forwards. Lachie Jones is not the answer for me.

Might also need another wingman since I don’t think Boak should be guaranteed a spot in the starting 22; 23 sub.

We’re well stocked with half-backs and if we get Rome Burgoyne and maybe Louie Montgomery as F/S as rookie picks. That’ll be the best case scenario.

Don’t think we need to draft anymore small forwards for now especially with Joe Richards coming in and Benny Barrett as an NGA selection and as a Cat B rookie in the best case scenario.

Might need to draft a mid but who I wonder since Wines is coming towards the backend of his career and there isn’t much coming through the two’s. Mead isn’t the big bodied midfielder and Jackson and Lorenz are more outside players.

It’s a shame that Soldo couldn’t be traded because I wouldn’t have minded Dodson but since Soldo is still there, it’s not the most wisest thing to draft another ruck since that would mean less development time for Dante.