List Mgmt. 2024 AFL Draft - November 20-21 (Picks 13, 29, 36, 50, 94, 112, 130)

[Ford Fairlane]

Thanks to Lore for this great resource

 

[Addy23]

Addy will have more on him.

He was in the All-Australian team IIRC.

He's got good footballing skills, good mark, loves to make to be 3rd up down back in a marking contest, good kick, good aerial ability, seems to be a smart player.

I think he has a really good sense of being a tall backmen. Likes the one on one but innately knows when to help out.

Dunno about speed.

Reminds me a touch of Aliir but with a better kick.

Only things I have seen in articles about Dennis is:
. bottom ager - so room to improve
. 194cm but skinny as - no idea how he copes with taller, big-bodied forwards
. resolute and composed
. no indication of leg speed, athleticism, disposal skills, aerial ability, clean hands, vision, etc.

His aerial ability is one of the best in this draft for a KPD. He's slightly undersized for a KPD as you mention but he's quite strong for a skinny lad, uses his body well to out-manoeuvre his opponent. Has decent speed actually, he's often carried the ball out of half back himself if the space is available.

Vision and decision making perhaps not his best suit. I would say he almost always picks the safe option which in a KPD is not a bad trait. But with a pre-season or 2 in the gym I think the upside is huge. I think I have said it before but he reminds me of Harris Andrews in his draft year who went pick 61!

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Hello, I read on main board rumours of a 13,29 for 16 21 swap with GWS. Is this true? I guess makes sense given you need talls and GWS needs more midfield help.

We are at the mercy of C4[2]Yo`DooR when it comes to these rumours.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

This doesnt really make any sense to me, if Draper is locked in at 3 couldnt they just get Smith at 4?

It's weird because the collective wisdom seems to be Lalor then Tauru at 1 and 2. Maybe Carlton are spooking them with the old double-bluff.

And as Grave Danger pointed out, Adelaide have nothing to add.

 

[davesnothere]

This doesnt really make any sense to me, if Draper is locked in at 3 couldnt they just get Smith at 4?

I'd have Jagga below Draper.


Along with a few others.
High possession low hurt factor.

I don't see him being like Butters.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

It's weird because the collective wisdom seems to be Lalor then Tauru at 1 and 2. Maybe Carlton are spooking them with the old double-bluff.

And as Grave Danger pointed out, Adelaide have nothing to add.

Saw that a suggested trade is Adelaide giving 4 + F1 for North's 2 + F2.

Crow's betting on ending up in the top half of the ladder, while North are still rubbish.

But its all seems a really weird trade because are they even moving up from 4 to get a player that isn't being linked to in the top 3 picks?

Although it could be like our trade to move up for Sinn. It wasn't about getting ahead of Essendon. It was about getting West Coast's pick instead of other teams that could've traded in West Coast's pick.

If North are going to trade out pick 2, because they want Tauru and he'll slide, they could be trading with Melbourne (pick 5), Richmond's pick 6, St Kilda's pick 7. All who could take the player the Crows want.

 

[Addy23]

Saw that a suggested trade is Adelaide giving 4 + F1 for North's 2 + F2.

Crow's betting on ending up in the top half of the ladder, while North are still rubbish.

But its all seems a really weird trade because are they even moving up from 4 to get a player that isn't being linked to in the top 3 picks?

Although it could be like our trade to move up for Sinn. It wasn't about getting ahead of Essendon. It was about getting West Coast's pick instead of other teams that could've traded in West Coast's pick.

If North are going to trade out pick 2, because they want Tauru and he'll slide, they could be trading with Melbourne (pick 5), Richmond's pick 6, St Kilda's pick 7. All who could take the player the Crows want.

I'm fairly sure Tauru is a target for those clubs at 5, 6 and 7 so if they traded those picks for 2 they'd take Tauru ahead of North

 

[Rash]

 

[Port2Power]

That silver guernsey

 

[Ford Fairlane]

This guy to, seems to be slipping back into late 40 s and 50s.

He seems to just float through the air. Looks a physical player at 199cm too. Another tall worth a look later.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

That would be great if we had employed Joe Berry to recruit Robbie Gray

 

[Wargreymon90]

Im still keen on Joe Berry

 

[240volt]

Whitlocks have weird heads

Like their eyes are too close together or something.

I can’t look at that for 14 odd years!

Can hear the Banjos playing now from Deliverance.

 

[Addy23]

Wish he had more midfield craft because that would've pushed him above Dattoli and Hannaford for me. He looked quite lost in there at times which is the only thing that holds me back because I don't think we should be taking a pure small forward with Pick 13, which is what Berry will be at AFL level in my opinion.

 

[240volt]

I'd have Jagga below Draper.


Along with a few others.
High possession low hurt factor.

I don't see him being like Butters.

Perfect fit for the Crows.

 

[Port2Power]

Joe Berry played in the wing, high half forward, deep forward and bit in the midfield at the U18 Champs.
Won't be playing midfield in his 1st year at AFL level and don't think Dattoli or Hannaford would either with our midfield line up.

He has the the running capacity to be the link up out of defence or via wing to forward. Showed in the finals of the U18 Champs to be the most damaging player on the scoreboard with 3 goals against Vic Metro in a losing side.
Along with being the second highest goal kicker in the CTL this year.

We lack players standing up in finals and kicking goals, he's proven this against the best in the champs at his level with further AFL conditioning and exposure he could excel to the next level.

 

[RangaInTeal]

That's the gamble you take. Most players that have been mentioned around our draft range have questions about them, unfortunately that cant be really assessed until they have been developed and exposed at AFL level. In the case of the Whitlock brothers I am not as negative about there long term prospects as some on our board. However they will take time and wont be the immediate walk in impact players that some are hopeful for.

They scream Fischer McAsey to me…

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

I'd be looking at Sims from our second pick onwards, I think he could become the best key forward from this draft with his aggression, athleticism and attack on the lead.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

They scream Fischer McAsey to me…

We are not the crows

 

[Addy23]

I'd be looking at Sims from our second pick onwards, I think he could become the best key forward from this draft with his aggression, athleticism and attack on the lead.

Agree on his description but I'd think about him at 36 rather than 29

 

[FishingRick04]

International. From Kazakhstan.

Does he like mankini’s?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Saw in the Herald Sun that Murphy Reid has assured non-Victorian clubs that he is happy to move out of Victoria.

 

[PJ Power]

Wonder if 16 and 21 would get you a combination of:

Reid and Faul/Whitlock or

Shanahan and Hynes/Dattoli

Either of those outcomes would look alright.

 

[Addy23]

Wonder if 16 and 21 would get you a combination of:

Reid and Faul/Whitlock or

Shanahan and Hynes/Dattoli

Either of those outcomes would look alright.

If we get 16 and 21, I'd almost rule out Shanahan and Reid getting to 16 which will become 19 on the night.

If we stay at 13 and 29, I would say maybe Reid and Gerreyn is a true possibility. Or Shanahan and Gross/Hannaford.

We need to explore a trading possibility with Sydney. This is a hypothetical but I think it could suit all parties involved

Swans: get 13, give 19 and 22
Saints: give 8, get 15 and 22
Port: give 13 and 29, get 19 and 16
Giants: give 15 and 16, get 8 and 29

In isolation the way I see it is as Port getting 19 and 22 for 13. Then trading 22 and 29 for 16.

 

[davesnothere]

If it's Whitlock I'm going to be ok with that.
Good hands athletic and sure footed.

There's a suggestion Richmond have more than a passing interest at some point though so if they take him early it's going to be Armstrong getting pushed back?

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Saw in the Herald Sun that Murphy Reid has assured non-Victorian clubs that he is happy to move out of Victoria.

I think that was his parents who made that statement after asking him to clean his room for the 5th time in an hour.