List Mgmt. 2024 AFL Draft - November 20-22 (Picks 13, 29, 36, 50, 94, 112, 130)

[Ford Fairlane]

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[Addy23]

Yep. We should keep a fifth spot open for the main draft. It puts our last pick up say 20 spots to get someone rated like a Dennis or Josh Murphy.

We've lodged our initial list as have all other clubs so can you delist someone now? I didn't think so but could be wrong. Picks have all been allocated already. If we delisted someone to re-rookie them a week ago we'd have a round 5 pick.

Makes the non-delisting of McEntee even more stupid.

We could delist someone after ND and re-rookie them and then give the senior spot to someone like Jack Watkins via SSP. I would rather take a rookie pick though

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Read an article the other day where another club recruiter thought Benny Barrett could get drafted late. Would be a shame.

 

[Scodges]

Read an article the other day where another club recruiter thought Benny Barrett could get drafted late. Would be a shame.

I thought we nominated him ?


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[Coobk001]

I thought we nominated him ?


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We may not main list him. Our preference clearly will be for him to become an automatic Cat B.

 

[rumoursofwinter]

We've lodged our initial list as have all other clubs so can you delist someone now? I didn't think so but could be wrong. Picks have all been allocated already. If we delisted someone to re-rookie them a week ago we'd have a round 5 pick.

Makes the non-delisting of McEntee even more stupid.

We could delist someone after ND and re-rookie them and then give the senior spot to someone like Jack Watkins via SSP. I would rather take a rookie pick though

I dont think we can delist someone now, but it seems a waste with how we view the draft. Giving mcentee a two year extension never made sense. Getting atkins makes no sense but I assume we bought a pick or his manager somehow forced it upon the trade. If we somehow miss out in benny it would be seriously annoying.

 

[Addy23]

Read an article the other day where another club recruiter thought Benny Barrett could get drafted late. Would be a shame.

Hypothetically, if he were picked, could we still match with the points deductions going towards our F2? And then not pick McEntee just completely delist him the morning after. I know who I'd want on my list between those 2

 

[rogerjames]

I’d have to be pretty sure who we have targeted would be there if we move back the first pick.
It’s starting to feel like we have another Andrew Moore type Rabbit out of hat trick coming.
Getting bad vibes.

Yeh agree. I'm not keen on moving later into the draft. Use our first round pick to get best available mid or key position player. I favour key position coz its so hard to get good kps later in draft.

And why are people still persisting with changing the definition of R1. I don't care how many father son/academy picks there are. Round 1 is picks 1-18. Otherwise R1 can end up being anything & obviously subsequent rounds follow.

 

[VineValerian]

Feels like a straightforward decision that we should delist and re rookie a player so that we have an extra main list spot if we want to use it.

Why re-rookie?
Just delist - and thus free up a spot we can either use in the main Draft, or spend on a rookie slider.

 

[Addy23]

Read an article the other day where another club recruiter thought Benny Barrett could get drafted late. Would be a shame.

Also must say I would be surprised if Barrett goes in the ND now largely because of some bolters that have come onto the scene late in the season. I'm talking prospects like Dolan, Bowman, Unwin, Hayes, Murphy, Toner. There was a point when Malakai Champion was a top 30 prospect and now has slid outside 50 (maybe even 60) according to many.

 

[Macca19]

This seems clear.

Would love to hear from draft watchers if Whitlock can actually provide a 5 minute chop out at afl level?

He can but his ruck craft isnt awesome

 

[Addy23]

He can but his ruck craft isnt awesome

Yep, again he does okay in the ruck at u18 level, much like his contested marking, because of his height advantage.

 

[Macca19]

Precisely, he can consistently break tackles and fend off to give himself the separation

Hynes doesnt really do this though. I’d say its a partnof his game he really needs to work on

 

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We may not main list him. Our preference clearly will be for him to become an automatic Cat B.

He’ll be on the main list in no time.


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[rumoursofwinter]

Hynes reminds me of Andrew Moore

Andrew Moore

Age

33

Ht

189cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

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Last 5

D

13.9

4star

K

7.5

3star

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6.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.1

5star

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2.0

4star

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D

11.6

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.6

3star

CL

1.0

3star

. I liked Andrew Moore

Andrew Moore

Age

33

Ht

189cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

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Last 5

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13.9

4star

K

7.5

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.1

5star

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2.0

4star

No current season stats available

D

11.6

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.6

3star

CL

1.0

3star

!

 

[Addy23]

Hynes doesnt really do this though. I’d say its a partnof his game he really needs to work on

Break tackles? I normally respect and agree with you mate but must say I find this particular one a tad odd. I've seen him do this on many occasions.

Think even Twomey and Rookie Me Central had this on their write ups if I'm right

 

[Addy23]

Hynes reminds me of Andrew Moore. I liked Andrew Moore!

Very different players in terms of their game styles! In what way does he remind you of Moore?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Yep, again he does okay in the ruck at u18 level, much like his contested marking, because of his height advantage.

I get you don't like him but that's silly. 200cm at u18 level is commonplace in ruck.

He is very mobile and is almost an extra on-baller when he rucks.

 

[rumoursofwinter]

Very different players in terms of their game styles! In what way does he remind you of Moore?

Big body. Not quite third tall...not quite mid. Nice mark. Contested. A bit fumbly. Almost very good but just a fraction off.

 

[Macca19]

Break tackles? I normally respect and agree with you mate but must say I find this particular one a tad odd. I've seen him do this on many occasions.

Think even Twomey and Rookie Me Central had this on their write ups if I'm right

I trust my eyes and I dont see him do it as much as he should. Hes no Harley Reid.

 

[Addy23]

I get you don't like him but that's silly. 200cm at u18 level is commonplace in ruck.

He is very mobile and is almost an extra on-baller when he rucks.

For Primary rucks yes. Normally when a chop out ruck goes in at U18 level they usually aren't 200cm

 

[Addy23]

I trust my eyes and I dont see him do it as much as he should. Hes no Harley Reid.

Fair enough, although you aren't comparing apples to apples there cause Reid is a totally different beast altogether. Like in a separate league on his own

 

[Ford Fairlane]

For Primary rucks yes. Normally when a chop out ruck goes in at U18 level they usually aren't 200cm

And chop out rucks often go up against primary rucks. He's handy as a back up ruck thanks to his height but he is also mobile enough to get around the ground and get involved in play.

Being a 200cm forward at u18 level doesn't preclude you from being a good AFL player, The King brothers are well over 200cm and no one backed off drafting them because of their height advantage.

 

[Addy23]

And chop out rucks often go up against primary rucks. He's handy as a back up ruck thanks to his height but he is also mobile enough to get around the ground and get involved in play.

Being a 200cm forward at u18 level doesn't preclude you from being a good AFL player, The King brothers are well over 200cm and no one backed off drafting them because of their height advantage.

Regarding your first point, that is right but all our tall forwards can do that include Mitch, Luko and Marshall. We need one that's a genuine forward 50 target like Armstrong or Shanahan. Hence why Whitlock does not suit us.

King brothers had extremely good forward craft unlike Whitlock. They weren't as good at getting high up the ground but were genuine targets inside 50. I just can't see how Whitlock becomes a Dixon/Curnow/McKay/Hogan/Larkey type player. I see him more as a Hipwood/Marshall type player that can also ruck

 

[strath39]

Just saw some content around Trainor and how the concussion issues are rumours and speculation (according to his Sandy coach). I don't know how true that is but assuming the club does due diligence on Trainor and he's fine, for me he's an equal 3rd option with our first pick behind Reid and Shanahan.

I would slide back and take that 16 and 21 deal. Would give us access to Trainor and one of Hynes/Dattoli/Hannaford.

If that were to happen, what are people's thoughts on moving Bergman into the MID/FWD role? Not wing! Centre bounce and forward in a rotating role with JHF and Rozee. And Trainor fits as the 3rd intercepting tall.

Happy to see it, but I'm not sure if Bergman is clean enough or has the ability to get the quick handball off in congestion. I'd like to see him in action over a 6-week period to get a better sense of whether he can consistently perform in that role.

It could end up being a bit like Houston—able to play inside, but much more effective and natural in the backline.

 

[davesnothere]

Grerreyn is a legitimate ruck/forward option.

The Primus rule. He's going to a couple cm smaller than the average ruck but he'll out body them and has good forward craft.

None of the other forward options are anymore a Ruck option than Justin Westoff or Todd Marshall

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Todd Marshall

Age

26

Ht

198cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

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9.0

2star

K

6.4

3star

HB

2.5

2star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

4star

G

1.1

4star

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8.9

2star

K

7.1

3star

HB

1.8

1star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.6

3star

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4.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.6

5star