List Mgmt. 2024 AFL Draft - November 20-22 (Picks 13, 29, 36, 50, 94, 112, 130)

[Ford Fairlane]

Thanks to Lore for this great resource

 

[wayb2912]

Shanahan looks like a young Taylor Walker

13

Taylor Walker

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.7

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

6.4

3star

HB

1.6

2star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.6

5star

before he done his knee and put on alot of size

 

[Addy23]

Does Gray not rate Whitlock?

More like there's no way Gray looks at Reid and Dattoli and then goes I'll have Whitlock

 

[Butters and Pepper]

Im stumped if we pick Tom Cochrane as our rookie thats a bit left field.

Well, you know what they say, life is a highway.

 

[rumoursofwinter]

Pace/aerobic capacity

Playing in a weaker comp.

That said I'll have him at Port.

He looks fast. He might have endurance issues but has been playing as a ruck, whereas at afl level it would be forward/ruck. He looks a bit like a lad...he's a serious unit with skills and he is physical.

 

[davesnothere]

He looks fast. He might have endurance issues but has been playing as a ruck, whereas at afl level it would be forward/ruck. He looks a bit like a lad...he's a serious unit with skills and he is physical.

I like him I really do but I get why he's late second round.

Put him in a professional environment think he thrives.

No different to any number of quality Rucks/Forwards their draft year.

 

[voorhees]

Smillie would be incredible. His highlights package is amazing for a 194cm player. Clean handling, highly skilled kick long or short, pack marking, tackling and agility. He would easily cover in defence or attack while not on the ball. Unfortunately I don't think he'll be there for our pick, although one credible phantom draft had him slipping to us.

no chance mate...
Smillie wont get past richmond's second pick (#6)
agree with you, his highlight package is something special.

 

[VineValerian]

Well, you know what they say, life is a highway.

Guess we'll just have to drive it all night long on Thursday then.

 

[Port2Power]

Joe Berry on Gettable talking about Robbie Gray

9

Robbie Gray

Age

36

Ht

183cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.4

5star

D

13.3

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

7.3

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.6

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.4

5star

and enjoys playing in the midfield

 

[Ford Fairlane]

no chance mate...
Smillie wont get past richmond's second pick (#6)
agree with you, his highlight package is something special.

It's been funny reading the main draft rumours thread, people seem to be trying to talk themselves out of Smillie lately.

I do agree with you BTW, I expect him to go well inside the top 10.

 

[Addy23]

Did anyone catch the update on Butters and Bergman on Gettable? Think it was at the 19 min and 32 min mark but the stream buffered for me and I missed it!

 

[Ford Fairlane]

davesnothere worst nightmare

 

[Addy23]

Get me Reid and Gerreyn or Shanahan and Gross (would've loved Hannaford, Hynes or Dattoli but I'm being realistic)

If we get those, especially Reid or Shanahan, it's a really good start to the draft. Unless we trade back, anyone else is not a worthy enough pick for me. Maybe could be convinced with Armstrong but no one else at that pick.

 

[Jonts]

I think the "look at his delivery argument" for Armstrong is pretty mute
His Haileybury form was what you would expect for someone of his calibre. His ability to adjust his body late in lead/pre contested mark fly is a skill (negative hat shows its a flaw in reading the ball coming in but I think that's coachable and it's more him going at 110% when he doesn't need to rather than a reading of the flight issue)

I will be happy with either Shanahan or Armstrong at the first pick but I am twice as confident in Armstrong developing here considering this port regime that has developed Marshall and Westhoff and that's it as tall forwards in the last 15 years

 

[Addy23]

I think the "look at his delivery argument" for Armstrong is pretty mute
His Haileybury form was what you would expect for someone of his calibre. His ability to adjust his body late in lead/pre contested mark fly is a skill (negative hat shows its a flaw in reading the ball coming in but I think that's coachable and it's more him going at 110% when he doesn't need to rather than a reading of the flight issue)

I will be happy with either Shanahan or Armstrong at the first pick but I am twice as confident in Armstrong developing here considering this port regime that has developed Marshall and Westhoff and that's it as tall forwards in the last 15 years

I get your point, it's not a deal breaker but also can't completely ignore that he got silver service at Sandy.

Armstrong for me is a bit similar to what we have in Luko and Mitch. I think Shanahan gives a point of difference.

 

[Chrizzt]

Lot of interest in 13 apparently. Good chance we get 29 and 36 upgraded, no idea if it costs us futures as well though

 

[Jonts]

I get your point, it's not a deal breaker but also can't completely ignore that he got silver service at Sandy.

Armstrong for me is a bit similar to what we have in Luko and Mitch. I think Shanahan gives a point of difference.

His service isn't going to be that much different at AFL level for most top 8 clubs imo

The rules re zones and positions help him more at sandy than the delivery standard (differentital to the rest of the comp) imo

I can see El Scorcho posting why we burnt Shanahan a lot in 5 years time
Not at as much with Armstrong
That's on the environment at the club no the player

 

[Macca19]

It's been funny reading the main draft rumours thread, people seem to be trying to talk themselves out of Smillie lately.

I do agree with you BTW, I expect him to go well inside the top 10.

Its odd looking at Smilie and FOS as both had big bottom age years and underwhelming top age years.

FOS talked up all year, excuses made for his performances

Smilie the opposite and many writing him off as an elite pick

I have Smilie at 2. He’ll be a gun

 

[Brian McGee]

Lot of interest in 13 apparently. Good chance we get 29 and 36 upgraded, no idea if it costs us futures as well though

Where did you hear this?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Lot of interest in 13 apparently. Good chance we get 29 and 36 upgraded, no idea if it costs us futures as well though

It will be on like Donkey Kong tomorrow night.

 

[wayb2912]

If we could somehow take both Whitlock twins that would be amazing

 

[Addy23]

Lot of interest in 13 apparently. Good chance we get 29 and 36 upgraded, no idea if it costs us futures as well though

No idea how true this is, but the equation is quite simple for me. Couldn't be clearer. Reid or Shanahan or trade.

 

[missionpossible]

How is gerryn not in the top 30? He looks to have all the tools to be an afl kpf/ruck.

Interesting (re Gerryn) because I have him as not draftable.
To be fair to him I have only watched one game.
I watch him and project him to be very good local footballer. I struggle to se him making WAFL level no matter AFL. I would be happy to leave him in the pool and see if he can prove me wrong next year playing against men.
He looks to be a lumbering big man, to slow for defence, not strong enough overhead for a key forward and to short to ruck.
He does not appear to be able to read the play and relies on the ball being kicked to him. Also fumbles more than I want.
I look at him and want him to be good but that is not what I saw.

 

[all seeing eye]

Talk is that Murphy Reid is apparently putting on sulks about maybe having to move interstate. Assume the club has had talks if interested in him?

 

[Addy23]

Interesting (re Gerryn) because I have him as not draftable.
To be fair to him I have only watched one game.
I watch him and project him to be very good local footballer. I struggle to se him making WAFL level no matter AFL. I would be happy to leave him in the pool and see if he can prove me wrong next year playing against men.
He looks to be a lumbering big man, to slow for defence, not strong enough overhead for a key forward and to short to ruck.
He does not appear to be able to read the play and relies on the ball being kicked to him. Also fumbles more than I want.
I look at him and want him to be good but that is not what I saw.

Watched a lot of his games and think you might've picked a bad one to watch haha

The other option for me is Charlie West later. But that depends on how we go with the first 2 picks.

 

[wayb2912]

Interesting (re Gerryn) because I have him as not draftable.
To be fair to him I have only watched one game.
I watch him and project him to be very good local footballer. I struggle to se him making WAFL level no matter AFL. I would be happy to leave him in the pool and see if he can prove me wrong next year playing against men.
He looks to be a lumbering big man, to slow for defence, not strong enough overhead for a key forward and to short to ruck.
He does not appear to be able to read the play and relies on the ball being kicked to him. Also fumbles more than I want.
I look at him and want him to be good but that is not what I saw.

Hes a Scott Lycett clone, not a good ruck, not a good forward